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Thanks for the thoughts. The original HWH team getting the original IP out into the open and getting the longform IRS approval were instrumental in all of this. That's @SquishMitten @RGBIII @SydneyCar

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Outside of unifying all initiatives under one umbrella, which wasn't a small feat for the parties involved, there are two really big things here: 1) All players in all sports will be making money

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I went to the tournament and the gala. Kind of obligated on it and to pay for it, or part of it. It was all well done and a ton of money was raised. We’d committed to a nut for this new cycle for full

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30 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

This is straight up made up shit by this guy. They have no idea who has access to what in these collectives so they're doing everything off of hearsay, at best. I know the guy has received zero insights from TOF. Just made it up and now it's a list that people are talking about and will eventually be touting on the radio and podcasts. 

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On 8/28/2024 at 8:38 AM, Texas Wahoo said:

Alabama's biggest NIL collective is shutting down.  It sounds like they want to bring NIL activities in-house under the athletics department.

https://footballscoop.com/news/alabama-shutting-down-top-collective

 

Just their charity which wasn't a charity. Yea Alabama is still around and does good work as far as collectives go. 

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This list is absolute horseshit. 

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3 minutes ago, Mittens said:

 

 

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I love the cut of their jib.

"Dear NCAA,

Ok, we won't put them on the helmets. Also, FUCK YOU; we'll move the QR codes to the goddamned jumbotron!

Love Always - Your compliant Okie Lite"

 

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If I understand the Cook Beats deal, it was also genius for Cook “to get” headphones for his teammates. Beats gets free advertising every time the Texas team is shown stepping off the bus. Genius move by Beats and Cook. I fully expect Texas to cut that stuff off in the future and sell headphone bus stepping off rights. 

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On 9/4/2024 at 7:19 AM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

 

 

I'd be curious to see Rosenhaus's college client list. How many high profile guys he has and if they've become difficult to work with, etc. I asssume Rosenhaus is using this like nike and addidas for HS teams, just to funnel guys to him when they hit it big.  

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15 minutes ago, immamac said:

No, it's legal in the revshare model that will become the norm next season. This is a kind of stupid way to do it. 

Yeah, seems like they're trying to redirect any blowback from raising ticket prices from the a.d. to the players.  Sound strategy!

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2 hours ago, Texas Wahoo said:

 

 

If a school is going to voluntarily join an organization (NCAA), and as part of that agree to follow their rules, then it makes no sense that a state can legislate that their member institutions don't have to abide by those rules.

The schools can either follow the rules, or leave the NCAA. You can't just pick and choose which rules you are going to follow and say "Sorry, it's state law" .

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1 hour ago, Hornlover said:

If a school is going to voluntarily join an organization (NCAA), and as part of that agree to follow their rules, then it makes no sense that a state can legislate that their member institutions don't have to abide by those rules.

The schools can either follow the rules, or leave the NCAA. You can't just pick and choose which rules you are going to follow and say "Sorry, it's state law" .

I generally agree with you, but it is complicated by the fact that these rules are unlikely to be upheld if challenged in court.

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7 hours ago, Texas Wahoo said:

 

 

Step closer to full employment arrangement. This is going to cost GA schools even more in employment law, regulation, and benefits issues than benefit on the field. Although I think it’s inevitable that athletes get treated as employees by the courts, so it doesn’t really matter.
 

College sports in 2034 are going to be very different. 

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15 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Arkansas AD says school needs $12 million more per year in NIL donations to be competitive - Yahoo Sports

This reminds me, where are all those know-nothing losers bitching about our NIL and our recruiting a few months back? Whining and rubbing their piss-covered vaginas while having zero fucking clue about putting together a competitive NIL program. Did anyone keep receipts?

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

This reminds me, where are all those know-nothing losers bitching about our NIL and our recruiting a few months back? Whining and rubbing their piss-covered vaginas while having zero fucking clue about putting together a competitive NIL program. Did anyone keep receipts?

So, squirters?

No receipts, sorry

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13 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

I don’t really understand that though. If NIL just became legal how can he feel like they’re obligated to pay him for services rendered without a contract?

I imagine that the argument is NIL was always "legal" and the NCAA/Pac12/USC improperly conspired to prevent Bush (and other collegiate athletes) from profiting on their names, images, and likenesses. 


Now, how Bush's suit against the NCAA isn't covered by House, I'm not sure.  Maybe he was able to opt out of the pending settlement?  Or maybe he's suing individually before the settlement is finalized, and his statute of limitations has somehow been tolled all this time under the American Pipe doctrine?

 

Edited to add:  Also possible that Bush's suit will be consolidated into House.

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19 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

I don’t really understand that though. If NIL just became legal how can he feel like they’re obligated to pay him for services rendered without a contract?

Seems to be a trend among some former players. 

 

Denard Robinson, Braylon Edwards, Mike Martin, and Shawn Crable from Michigan are doing same.

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30 minutes ago, Katfid54 said:

I imagine that the argument is NIL was always "legal" and the NCAA/Pac12/USC improperly conspired to prevent Bush (and other collegiate athletes) from profiting on their names, images, and likenesses. 


Now, how Bush's suit against the NCAA isn't covered by House, I'm not sure.  Maybe he was able to opt out of the pending settlement?  Or maybe he's suing individually before the settlement is finalized, and his statute of limitations has somehow been tolled all this time under the American Pipe doctrine?

 

Edited to add:  Also possible that Bush's suit will be consolidated into House.

House only covers former student athletes from 2016 and later.  Bush was long gone by then.

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yeah, TBH this is some straight up fucking nonsense now that we see what NIL has become and it's actually the worst possible outcome possible for the NCAA. The schools have some protection, although it may be weird they were compensated and any student athlete at a school doesn't really have rights to the co-branded NIL which is used in much of the material. Now the free market has determined that players are getting a share, but universities could theoretically tell players to go get fucked on things like jersey sales, ad campaigns for the football team etc. They are enrolled athletes and probably part of their duty as a student athlete is to do some of this shit in exchange for their scholarship and cash stipend etc. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

House only covers former student athletes from 2016 and later.  Bush was long gone by then.

I guess that's the point, though.  Bush may have some NIL claims from 2016-present, as USC/NCAA/etc. have continued to use his likeness.  And maybe those claims are not time-barred because of statute of limitations was tolled pursuant to American Pipe.  But how would any of Bush's pre-2016 claims not be time-barred?

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

yeah, TBH this is some straight up fucking nonsense now that we see what NIL has become and it's actually the worst possible outcome possible for the NCAA. The schools have some protection, although it may be weird they were compensated and any student athlete at a school doesn't really have rights to the co-branded NIL which is used in much of the material. Now the free market has determined that players are getting a share, but universities could theoretically tell players to go get fucked on things like jersey sales, ad campaigns for the football team etc. They are enrolled athletes and probably part of their duty as a student athlete is to do some of this shit in exchange for their scholarship and cash stipend etc. 

 

This is where it is all muddied up for me... they keep talking about "a share", but seem like majority going to athletes is from new sources and not a share of things.

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