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10 minutes ago, statsman said:

2.5 years ago, Saban spoke at the THSCA meeting and casually mentioned that Bryce Young was to get $1M in NIL. He didn’t share that as a wake up call, that “something must be done”. No, he thought he had a handle on this future, and was letting everyone know that his program was still the one place to be. 
 
How do I feel about Saban’s current blessings? Too bad, so sad. 
 
Also, I’m pretty sure Bible was using boosters to spread money around the state every bit as much as SMU did. Thing is, until around 1950, it was within the rules. Texas’ “no buying players” ethos was really put in place by Royal. 
 

Bryce Young's dad tore Saban a new asshole the next day after Saban mentioned that. Read him the riot act and told him not to leverage his son for his own gain ever again. It was a new moment for Saban. He had no one to blame but himself and no power to counter the talent's argument. From then on, Saban started speaking about NIL differently and I think that was a turning point.

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Thanks for the thoughts. The original HWH team getting the original IP out into the open and getting the longform IRS approval were instrumental in all of this. That's @SquishMitten @RGBIII @SydneyCar

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Outside of unifying all initiatives under one umbrella, which wasn't a small feat for the parties involved, there are two really big things here: 1) All players in all sports will be making money

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I went to the tournament and the gala. Kind of obligated on it and to pay for it, or part of it. It was all well done and a ton of money was raised. We’d committed to a nut for this new cycle for full

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We have an advantage now, quite a bit of it because of work put in by people on this thread.    I want a decade and 4-5 National championships with what amounts to the same advantage Bama has had for a decade plus.     After that, then we can talk about limits/salary caps etc.   Until then fuck them all - join Texas One.

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Bryce Young's dad tore Saban a new asshole the next day after Saban mentioned that. Read him the riot act and told him not to leverage his son for his own gain ever again. It was a new moment for Saban. He had no one to blame but himself and no power to counter the talent's argument. From then on, Saban started speaking about NIL differently and I think that was a turning point.
He watched the point of power pivot right in front of him, and it scared him.
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I don’t mind Saban being a hypocrite as much as I mind him being so gotdamn sanctimonious about it. This dirty piece of shit positioning himself as the moral compass of college football looking out for the best interest of the kids is just too much.

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I’m sure Ctj wouldn’t have signed off on Alan Jackson

Remember When one of these threads went Chasin' That Neon Rainbow down a Little Bitty detour of Alan Jackson songs?

For a brief moment I thought I'd Gone Country.... A good ol' Country Boy. Between The Devil And Me, I was taking a stroll at Midnight In Montgomery. I thought to myself, "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" and Wanted to Pop A Top.

But, Here In The Real World, we should try to keep the thread on track. 

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On 3/20/2024 at 5:48 PM, CTC2 said:

I guess someone somewhere is interested in Brooks And Dunn?

Don’t disrespect Brooks and Dunn! Neon Moon is partially responsible for one of the best stories in the history of our debauchery

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Article about a new Colorado collective with a slightly misleading headline.

University of Colorado has a new NIL collective backed by Deion Sanders: 5 things to know

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/2024/03/27/university-of-colorado-has-new-nil-collective-backed-by-deion-sanders/73120372007/

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Name, image and likeness is changing by the day and the University of Colorado is getting with the times.

As the Buffaloes prepare for their transition into the Big 12, a new NIL collective for Colorado athletics launched Tuesday: 5430 Alliance.

It supports the 350-plus student-athletes across all 15 university sports and consolidates the Buffs' NIL efforts into one entity. The move unifies the Buffs4Life NIL Collective and 5430 Foundation "to bring all of the university’s NIL opportunities into one streamlined organization," according to a news release.

“NIL is a critical component of our athletics programs as we support our student-athletes and compete for national championships,” Colorado athletic director Rick George said in the release. “5430 Alliance ushers in a new chapter of NIL at Colorado and allows all our fans and alumni to support our student-athletes through one avenue. We encourage every supporter of the Buffs community to pledge their support to 5430 Alliance.”

George wants Colorado to compete for national championships and that goal is unattainable nowadays without a dedicated NIL collective.

Blueprint Sports, which powers the collectives of a handful of Division I programs, will service the day-to-day functions of the Buffs' operation. The company's CEO, Rob Sine, has a goal of $8 million for Colorado's football budget in 2024, but that's just the beginning.

"A great football coach once told me, 'Just to be able to compete is one thing, to win championships is something else,'" Sine told the Coloradoan. "So, if $8 million is the goal to be able to compete, to win championships is going to be over $10 million a year.

"Now fans hear that and some might get excited, some may question it, but it's not hard to put together, it's not hard to do and those student-athletes deserve the opportunities."

Now that Colorado has a consolidated NIL collective, here are five things to know about 5430 Alliance:
What will 5430 Alliance do for Colorado athletics?

5430 Alliance will connect fans, alumni, businesses and charitable organizations with Colorado student-athletes under one umbrella. The previous separation of collectives put CU behind the eight ball a bit when it came to NIL efforts.

"This makes a lot of sense from my perspective," Mit Winter, one of the nation's leading NIL attorneys, told the Coloradoan. "It's always easier for a school, for athletics and for people who want to contribute to NIL if there's just one collective that everyone has to deal with. If things are more fractured, it's confusing for the donors and fans, and it's harder for the school and athletics to navigate that when you're having to deal with multiple entities."

The new collective offers monthly membership packages ranging from $15 to $250 and annual donations ranging from $150 to $2,500. Fans and donors can also choose to make a tax-deductible donation or a one-time contribution.

Football is certainly at the forefront of NIL efforts (and donors can make sure their contribution goes directly to the sport they support), but 5430 Alliance will help ensure that all 15 teams at Colorado can reach new heights.

"Everything at Colorado has gotten shinier, gotten better and been more competitive," Sine said. "You've had the basketball programs having success for a little while now and several of the Olympic sports as well. This will elevate everything.

"You brought in 'Coach Prime' last year, you brought in his sons and some of the other football players and it caught the nation by storm. Well, now's the time to really impact that further. That was the reintroduction of Colorado athletics last year at a high, high level as you saw from all of the national media attention. This is the opportunity to use creativity to take it to the next level."
Is 5430 Alliance affiliated with the University of Colorado?

5430 Alliance is an independent corporation and not affiliated with the University of Colorado.

The collective will be powered by the industry leader in NIL, Blueprint Sports, which currently works with collectives at Arizona, Arkansas, Gonzaga, Maryland, Penn State, UCLA, Utah and other schools. The Buffs' NIL staff, however, should look much bigger and better than its competitors.

"Our charge is to build a team in market that represents 5430 Alliance, the student-athletes and the school every single day," Sine said. "They're out there fundraising, educating the community on opportunities to work with student-athletes and working with the student-athletes to earn the NIL income.

"We're going to have one of the bigger staffs in the country here at Colorado because this is such a huge opportunity for us."
Deion Sanders backs 5430 Alliance

There's no doubt that the presence of Deion Sanders as Colorado's football coach led to the formation of 5430 Alliance.

Sanders, known as "Coach Prime," is already one of the best recruiters in college football, evidenced by his top-10 2024 transfer class coupled with the landing of five-star recruits in back-to-back years, but the NIL support of 5430 Alliance will help him navigate the transition to the Big 12.

"When you have such a bright star like 'Coach Prime' and the student-athletes, Travis (Hunter), Shedeur (Sanders) and everybody else on the football team, it makes things a lot easier," Sine said. "Almost everybody in the community knows about them and so it makes the opening conversation (with donors) a whole lot easier."

It's no surprise that Sanders is all in on the new collective.

“WE HERE and we’re not settling for nothing! We have a commitment to DOMINATE on and off the field, and in order to do that we need to DOMINATE in our NIL program as well,” Sanders said in the news release. “5430 Alliance gives EVERY darn Colorado fan the opportunity to be a part of HISTORY. IT DON’T STOP BABY!”
Why is this the right time for 5430 Alliance?

Colorado football is coached by one of the most polarizing figures in sports and features a pair of athletes who could be top-10 picks in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The men's basketball team just won back-to-back NCAA Tournament games for the first time since 1995, and the women's team is in the Sweet 16 for the second consecutive year.

The time is now to invest in Colorado athletics, and the way to invest is through NIL.

"In today's college sports world, you have to have NIL resources just to compete in recruiting," Winter said. "Showing that you're serious about having those NIL resources is important to signal to your coaches and fans that you're serious about being competitive in this new world of college athletics.

"With some of the legal stuff that's happened with the Tennessee vs. NCAA case, it's really increased the importance of having a well-run and well-funded collective because now collectives can be out talking to recruits and offering them specific deals that are recruiting inducements."

Recruiting and NIL will go hand-in-hand as the NCAA continues to evolve. Those two aspects impact everything about college athletics and they're at the core of decisions that athletic departments around the country are making.

"I always say that name, image and likeness is all about recruiting and retention and it's the center of the athletic universe," Sine said. "The better you can do recruiting and retaining student-athletes, the better your ticket sales will be, the better your donors and supporters will be.
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"We have to build a path to get to $8 million, to get to $12 (million), to get to $15 (million) and to keep growing from there. Those numbers are what they are because student-athletes have earned them. They work their butts off to get to this part of their career. The blood, sweat and tears it takes to be a D-I athlete is tremendous. These numbers are appropriate when you think about the whole scheme of what revenue looks like in college athletics."

What's next for NIL?

Winter was recognized as one of the top 25 influential figures in NIL by On3 and is one of the leading voices in the space.

The NIL attorney believes that schools will soon be allowed to directly pay their student-athletes.

"I think within a year, schools are going to able to directly compensate their athletes, whether that's paying them NIL money, which would really be sharing broadcast revenue, or it's going to be payment for athletic performance," Winter said. "It'll probably start out as NIL payments and transition to just payment for athletic performance, which is really what they're being paid for by NIL collectives now anyway.

"I think that's where it will eventually get to."

When that happens, Winter said, the question will be if NIL collectives like 5430 Alliance will still be involved in the process.

"At some schools, they probably will," Winter said. "At other schools, they might want to just bring that function in-house."

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Virginia is going to allow schools to pay NIL directly.

 

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Schools in Virginia will be able to directly pay athletes via name, image and likeness deals thanks to a state law signed Thursday morning, marking another significant step in the professionalization of college sports.

The new law, which is scheduled to take effect July 1, is the first in any state to make it illegal for the NCAA to punish a school for compensating athletes for their NIL rights. Current NCAA rules prohibit schools from signing NIL deals with their own players. The law could either give Virginia schools a significant recruiting advantage or provide a catalyst for similar changes elsewhere.

 

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https://www.ocregister.com/2024/04/10/is-usc-prepared-for-nil-floodgates-opening-and-no-ncaa-restrictions/

Just got to this article on USC NIL. Goes into how some players feel deceived by what they were expecting including a player who wasn't able to make rent because they didn't get what they were told. How collectives are using in-person deliverables as a means of not letting players just dip and taking the money with them (very smart). Interesting read overall.

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44 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

This would just encourage the non-poors to enhance what they can legally do with NIL with bags.  So, right back to where we were for schools willing to win at all costs.  

NIL would still exist and would need to be used to combat that. NIL isn’t the same as the university provided payments that are being talked about with a cap. At least that’s how I see it. 

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The “university provided payments” are a way for poor programs to pay out of AD revenue. Caps are proposed, again, to allow poorer programs to compete. 
 
if it came to a vote, it would pass, because the majority of programs are envious of the wealthier ones. (Tip- if an AD or coach is quoted as saying, “Something must be done about this! It’s not sustainable!”, they’re poor). 
 
I could envision a situation where the FCS, G5 and Mid2 leagues make such an agreement, and the richer schools form their own division. 

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On 3/18/2024 at 5:34 PM, Mother mopar said:

He watched the point of power pivot right in front of him, and it scared him.


It's why that hypocrite is in front of congress now crying about NIL. Alabama needs a bogey man to blame now that they lost their competitive advantage. 

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It's why that hypocrite is in front of congress now crying about NIL. Alabama needs a bogey man to blame now that they lost their competitive advantage. 

If deBoer can put together a similar season to last year's Saban Farewell Tour, the non-monetary part of that advantage will not suffer.

Remains to be seen, but the man has a pretty nice resume.

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If deBoer can put together a similar season to last year's Saban Farewell Tour, the non-monetary part of that advantage will not suffer.
Remains to be seen, but the man has a pretty nice resume.
Let's see in a few years with his own players. I think he will be successful but folks need to lower expectations.
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3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:
If deBoer can put together a similar season to last year's Saban Farewell Tour, the non-monetary part of that advantage will not suffer.
Remains to be seen, but the man has a pretty nice resume.

Let's see in a few years with his own players. I think he will be successful but folks need to lower expectations.

The conventional wisdom is that no one will ever be able to match Saban. The most meaningful part of your post is "Let's see..." 

You are absolutely correct.

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8 hours ago, Chopper said:

Did anyone here go to the concert?

I went to the tournament and the gala. Kind of obligated on it and to pay for it, or part of it. It was all well done and a ton of money was raised. We’d committed to a nut for this new cycle for full roster support and exceeded that commitment. People are finally getting it. 

I got to meet VY last night. I don’t give a shit about celebs and such, but he’s the one guy I always wanted to meet and say thank you to, and I got to do that and take a photo. He was a terrific guy to talk to and very gracious to everyone chatting him up. 

I will say this - and I have been saying it all along - no one can match a motivated and unified Texas NIL function. Texas is not fully there, and not everything can or will be run through TOF, but we’re as far out there on the forefront as anyone could hope. 

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