2022 Houston Astros Thread

[rvm96 1643]

McDermott was drafted with Springers supplemental pick so even when he leaves he still helps us

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

Siri was expendable.  Good trade.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

 

That's a great deal, if that's it's final form. Per Fangraphs, McDermott is a 40 and Murray a 40+ - so they swapped one pitching prospect for another that is roughly equal, maybe better. So they basically traded Siri for Mancini straight up. That's a win.

Not sure about Murray's Rule 5 eligibility. If he's not eligible after this season, this looks like an even swap. 

Just now, Ojo Rojo said:

Siri was expendable.  Good trade.

Picked him after he was DFA'd last season. Turned him into Trey Mancini. Not bad. 

[Mo Horn 8832]

 

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

I like it. Mancini has a career 113 wRC+ and can play OF and 1B. Bell has a career wRC+ of 118 and can’t play in the OF, and would have cost considerably more (presumably). I like Bell more as a pure hitter but position flexibility has value and he was relatively cheap. 

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

1 minute ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I like it. Mancini has a career 113 wRC+ and can play OF and 1B. Bell has a career wRC+ of 118 and can’t play in the OF, and would have cost considerably more (presumably). I like Bell more as a pure hitter but position flexibility has value and he was relatively cheap. 

Plus, it gives more flexibility to play Yuli and hopefully he gets right throughout the rest of the season and the playoffs.

[InkaUtexas 25907]

Nice trade Astros. I think it is your year. 

[rvm96 1643]

2 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I like it. Mancini has a career 113 wRC+ and can play OF and 1B. Bell has a career wRC+ of 118 and can’t play in the OF, and would have cost considerably more (presumably). I like Bell more as a pure hitter but position flexibility has value and he was relatively cheap. 

Bell did play 60 innings in the outfield last year. Only 1 game though this year.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

[HtownHorn 14677]

Plus, Mancini has a MO for $10M next year, so he's likely not a walk year bat, and gives you a 1B for next year. The Rays pitcher likely gets put on our 40 man as I don't see Brantley, Gurriel, or Castro on it next year. The Siri move makes sense, as now the Astros can just put Mancini in that spot on the 40.

[cabowabo 4484]

I could just never get comfortable with Siri.  He was a ticking time bomb as far doing something idiotic.  Glad he gone.

[Scraps 13561]

Down with this way more than Choi.....would rather have gotten Bell over Mancini, but if that wasn't going to happen this is probably way cheaper and best case scenario.  

[kevwun 15774]

I liked him as long as he wasn't at the plate, but yeah he's definitely a spaz.

[HtownHorn 14677]

Jake Meyers is the biggest beneficiar of the Bregman news, likely keeps him MLB for another 3 days.

[TonyTexas 10510]

5 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Plus, Mancini has a MO for $10M next year, so he's likely not a walk year bat, and gives you a 1B for next year.

IDK He’s making $7.5M this year. It’ll be close. 

[Scraps 13561]

So does this mean were are not getting Soto and Ohtani?

Ok i think your shits all retarded but I did laugh at this based on the history of this thread

[clapclapclap 9000]

Love Mancini's walkup song:

 

 

[Guadaloopy 10960]

Gruntled.  

[formermav43 4606]

I get this move from both the Astros and Orioles standpoint. The real puzzler for me is TB, who gave up 2 prospects (the one going to Baltimore is top 100! he's headed for Tommy John, but who doesn't these days?) for Siri. 

[Guadaloopy 10960]

1 minute ago, clapclapclap said:

Love Mancini's walkup song:

 

 

Hatari!

[clapclapclap 9000]

7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I liked him as long as he wasn't at the plate, but yeah he's definitely a spaz.

They're gonna need you to rephrase that, Beyonce.

[rvm96 1643]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I get this move from both the Astros and Orioles standpoint. The real puzzler for me is TB, who gave up 2 prospects (the one going to Baltimore is top 100! he's headed for Tommy John, but who doesn't these days?) for Siri. 

Rays love good defensive outfielders like Kevin Kiermier(sp?) . Also you forgot about the prospect the Rays got back from the Astros.

Edited August 1, 2022 by rvm96

[kevwun 15774]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I get this move from both the Astros and Orioles standpoint. The real puzzler for me is TB, who gave up 2 prospects (the one going to Baltimore is top 100! he's headed for Tommy John, but who doesn't these days?) for Siri. 

They must be desperate for someone who can play a good cf.  

[Gut Wagon 8065]

6 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I liked him as long as he wasn't at the plate, but yeah he's definitely a spaz.

When he's hitting, Siri is the "free spirit" who keeps it light in the clubhouse and energizes both the team and the fans. When he's not hitting (which is to say, nearly all the time) he's just an annoying spare. Adios, bro. 

[Rockethorn1978 6077]

Who’s next.. 

[Scraps 13561]

Baltimore is in Arlington.....get Mancini on a plane and get down here. 

[kevwun 15774]

It was painful watching him hit.  Dude is lucky to make contact most of the time.  Just terrible swings.

[formermav43 4606]

2 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Rays love good defensive outfielders like Kevin Kiermier(sp?) . Also you forgot about the prospect the Rays got back from the Astros.

The Rays didn't get a prospect from the Astros, unless the reporting has changed. The only prospect I have seen that Houston sent out is McDermott to Baltimore. Which is why I find the move strange for them.

Edited August 1, 2022 by formermav43

[HtownHorn 14677]

2 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Rays love good defensive outfielders like Kevin Kiermier(sp?) . Also you forgot about the prospect the Rays got back from the Astros.

The Astros aren't sending a prospect to the Rays. 

Hou gets Mancini and Rays' AA pitcher

Rays get Siri

Bal gets Astros pitcher and Rays pitcher

[runthebone 7968]

3 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Baltimore is in Arlington.....get Mancini on a plane and get down here. 

 

8 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Love Mancini's walkup song:

 

 

Tonight, runners on base, critical situation....

 

Mah gawd, that's Trey Mancini's music!

[rvm96 1643]

4 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

The Rays didn't get a prospect from the Astros, unless the reporting has changed. The only prospect I have seen that Houston sent out is McDermott to Baltimore. Which is why I find the move strange for them.

You're right, but my point still stands. They love outfield defense and teams will think they can make Siri work with his stats from last year the MLB level and AAA this year.

[VirginiaLonghorn 4771]

4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

The Astros aren't sending a prospect to the Rays. 

Hou gets Mancini and Rays' AA pitcher

Rays get Siri

Bal gets Astros pitcher and Rays pitcher

TRADE DETAILS
Orioles get: RHP Seth Johnson (Rays' No. 6 prospect) and RHP Chayce McDermott (Astros' No. 12 prospect)
Astros get: 1B/DH Trey Mancini (from Orioles) and RHP Jayden Murray (from Rays)
Rays get: OF Jose Siri (from Astros)

[Scraps 13561]

Click likes 3 ways with his ex 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Scraps

[MAROON 445]

21 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Plus, Mancini has a MO for $10M next year, so he's likely not a walk year bat, and gives you a 1B for next year. The Rays pitcher likely gets put on our 40 man as I don't see Brantley, Gurriel, or Castro on it next year. The Siri move makes sense, as now the Astros can just put Mancini in that spot on the 40.

I can't see Mancini accepting that option for 2023.  Crane will probably need to sign him to a long-term deal or he will be a free agent after this season,

[formermav43 4606]

1 minute ago, rvm96 said:

You're right, but my point still stands. They love outfield defense and teams will think they can make Siri work with his stats from last year the MLB level and AAA this year.

Oh I get why they would want him. But it seems like they gave up a LOT to get him.

[rvm96 1643]

1 minute ago, formermav43 said:

Oh I get why they would want him. But it seems like they gave up a LOT to get him.

Prospects are a dime a dozen for them and it's better than losing them in the rule 5 draft 

[TexArcher 37774]

Love this trade.

Siri is a poor man's Juan Soto.  Bye.

Mancini is still only 30, he can play 1B in case Yuli's worthless by next season, and if Yuli comes around then Mancini can platoon in outfield spots and pinch hit.  

Jesus, I just looked it up and I didn't realize Siri's already 27.  We traded a 27-year-old-maybe-someday for a 30-year-old legit Major Leaguer.

Love it.

[The Dog 44020]

[Scraps 13561]

oh we got jokes 

[TonyTexas 10510]

 

[Scraps 13561]

 

[TonyTexas 10510]

Will kinda miss Siri, the player . Will not miss “Hey Siri”, the jokes. 

 

[Macklemore 2876]

We need another move. Mancini is not enough to get us a WS. Click needs to pull the trigger on Bell.

[rvm96 1643]

11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Love this trade.

Siri is a poor man's Juan Soto.  Bye.

Mancini is still only 30, he can play 1B in case Yuli's worthless by next season, and if Yuli comes around then Mancini can platoon in outfield spots and pinch hit.  

Jesus, I just looked it up and I didn't realize Siri's already 27.  We traded a 27-year-old-maybe-someday for a 30-year-old legit Major Leaguer.

Love it.

Comparing Siri to Soto at all is the worst comparison I've ever seen.

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

Siri is 27 and has contact / strikeout issues that aren’t likely to go away. He’s got value as a defender and has speed, but he’s unlikely at this stage to become even an average MLB hitter. 

[Guadaloopy 10960]

9 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Will kinda miss Siri, the player . Will not miss “Hey Siri”, the jokes. 

 

Hey Siri, get directions to Tampa.  

[formermav43 4606]

4 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Comparing Siri to Soto at all is the worst comparison I've ever seen.

I mean, one is arguably going to be the best hitter of his generation, reached the majors as a teenager, and is a defensive liability; the other is an elite defender who strikes out a third of the time and can't stick in the big leagues in his late 20s.

They're practically the same guy.

[Guadaloopy 10960]

23 minutes ago, MAROON said:

I can't see Mancini accepting that option for 2023.  Crane will probably need to sign him to a long-term deal or he will be a free agent after this season,

A mutual option is as good as the SEC gentleman’s agreement. 

[TexArcher 37774]

9 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Comparing Siri to Soto at all is the worst comparison I've ever seen.

That's kinda the point.  Poor man's Juan Soto.  You get all the attitude and look-at-me bullshit and not only do you not get the All Star production, you don't even get everyday major leaguer production.

Edited August 1, 2022 by TexArcher

[formermav43 4606]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

That's kinda the point.  You get all the attitude and look-at-me bullshit and not only do you not get the All Star production, you don't even get everyday major leaguer production.

So more like a homeless junkie's Juan Soto maybe.