2022 Houston Astros Thread

[TonyTexas 10510]

Everyone one is talking about Odo’s contract being terrible. He’s due to make $6.5M next year. That’s lower-middle class in today’s MLB

[kevwun 15774]

He has some performance clauses that roughly double his salary and buyout.  I am not sure if he has met them.

[Guadaloopy 10960]

5 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Everyone one is talking about Odo’s contract being terrible. He’s due to make $6.5M next year. That’s lower-middle class in today’s MLB

Yep.  The money isn’t big.  But the Astros have several options that provide better value than Odo - less money for the same or better level of performance.  

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Everyone one is talking about Odo’s contract being terrible. He’s due to make $6.5M next year. That’s lower-middle class in today’s MLB

When you might have to offer JV $35-$40M, have Bregs moving from $11M to $28.5, and have a holes to fill at 1B and LF, every little bit helps. 

[rvm96 1643]

4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He has some performance clauses that roughly double his salary and buyout.  I am not sure if he has met them.

He hasn't 

[Scraps 13561]

7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He has some performance clauses that roughly double his salary and buyout.  I am not sure if he has met them.

Yeah I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere last night that after 1 more start he should reach those.  I can't find where I read that at now though 

Edit: OK so what I am seeing is he still should be short for awhile at least:

• 2023 player option includes a $3.25M buyout
  Option escalates $2M & buyout increases $1M each for:
  20, 25, 30 starts, or any game with 12+ outs, max $12.5M/$6.25M
• 2022 Incentives:
  $500,000 for 100 innings pitched
  $1M each for 110, 120, 130, 140, 150 innings pitched
  $1.25M for 160 innings pitched

Edited August 2, 2022 by Scraps
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[HtownHorn 14677]

Odorizzi's contract bonuses.

Spoiler

The contract of Odorizzi plays a role here. He’s making $5 million this year (about $1.79 million remaining), but would win $500,000 if he hit 100 innings, plus $1 million each on 110, 120, 130, 140 and 150 innings. Odorizzi is currently at 60 innings, so 120 seems like the likely upper limit. Odorizzi also has a $6.5 million player option with a $3.25 million buyout, but as Chandler Rome of the Houston Chronicle explains, “Odorizzi’s player option can be exercised at a base salary of $12.5 million.” Dollars and a $6.25 million buyout – but only if he tackles with 30 games where he gets 12 or more outs in 2021-22. After Sunday, Odorizzi has 29 such games in 2021-22.” Given that the pitcher appears to have at least $3 million at stake to get another four-inning start, it was mutually beneficial for the Astros to find a team that would make him more comfortable hitting that threshold and getting a few performance bonuses.

 

[rvm96 1643]

5 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

He hasn't 

I stand corrected above. I thought the start thresholds were for 2022 only. 

[Mo Horn 8832]

 

[Scraps 13561]

OK so I was correct that one more start will essentially get him into more $$

[kevwun 15774]

I can't blame Crane and Click for not wanting to pay him 3 million dollars for his next start when Lance will be back shortly.

Edited August 2, 2022 by kevwun

[henrygandorf 29189]

50 minutes ago, Js1 said:

So what's left to do? 

50 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by henrygandorf

[huge 3793]

I still want to trade for Andrew Chafin-Carpenter

[Gourmand 7774]

 

Urquidy/Brown/Whiitley/Leon for Soto cmon Click do it do it

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

All we need now is a badass centerfielder with a monster bat.  Juan Soto is a badass centerfielder with a monster bat.  Coincidence?

Meyers, Urquidy or Javier and another 10-20 level prospect. Do it.

[Rockethorn1978 6077]

let’s go crane.

[Pimphand 5735]

 

3 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Will Smith? That’s a real slap in the face. 

Yeah he is a DO NOT WANT but Roughnedizzi was even more of a DO NOT WANT so I guess it is an addition...

[Gourmand 7774]

Haven't seen anything on socials yet from the Bregmans about their baby on the way.....hoping the best for Alex and Reagan. 

[perfectchaos007 6634]

He’s not great, but we needed a lefty arm in the pen and Will Smith fit the bill. 

[TonyTexas 10510]

3 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

 

Yeah he is a DO NOT WANT but Roughnedizzi was even more of a DO NOT WANT so I guess it is an addition...

 

[Gourmand 7774]

 

[VirginiaLonghorn 4771]

26 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

All we need now is a badass centerfielder with a monster bat.  Juan Soto is a badass centerfielder with a monster bat.  Coincidence?

Meyers, Urquidy or Javier and another 10-20 level prospect. Do it.

… except Soto is an average RF.

[kevwun 15774]

Forget it, he's rolling.

[rvm96 1643]

1 minute ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

… except Soto is an average RF.

Well we did have someone call Jose Siri a poor man's Juan Soto yesterday 

[HtownHorn 14677]

I think Michael Taylor would likely be the best CF improvement that wouldn't cost much in prospects. +9 DRS in CF and has a career high BB%, and hitting a solid .280/.352/.395. Wouldn't be shocked if his StatCast data shows he would have double digit HRs in MMP compared to Kaufmann. Yep. he'd have 10 in MMP. Also. signed for a respectable $4.5M next year.

Edited August 2, 2022 by HtownHorn

[The Dog 44020]

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I think Michael Taylor would likely be the best CF improvement that wouldn't cost much in prospect cost. +9 DRS in CF and has a career high BB%, and hitting a solid .280/.352/.395. Wouldn't be shocked if his StatCast data shows he would have double digit HRs in MMP compared to Kaufmann. Yep. he'd have 10 in MMP.

and he's under contract through next year.

[formermav43 4606]

And a career wRC+ of 82. This is only the second season in his career he hasn’t been below average.

I don’t really see him as an upgrade.

[Gourmand 7774]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

and he's under contract through next year.

and his career OPS of .686 is underwhelming. I don't see the point in trading for him when we already have a better hitting CF in McCormick.

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

17 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

… except Soto is an average RF.

Potato, potahto.

[VirginiaLonghorn 4771]

9 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I think Michael Taylor would likely be the best CF improvement that wouldn't cost much in prospects. +9 DRS in CF and has a career high BB%, and hitting a solid .280/.352/.395. Wouldn't be shocked if his StatCast data shows he would have double digit HRs in MMP compared to Kaufmann. Yep. he'd have 10 in MMP. Also. signed for a respectable $4.5M next year.

Michael A. Taylor can do that job.

[Scraps 13561]

Looks like Soto and Bell to SD so mark them off lol 

 

[runthebone 7969]

16 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Well we did have someone call Jose Siri a poor man's Juan Soto yesterday 

Same species, same initials, same union--it's logical.

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

Wow.

[runthebone 7969]

I think Click was smart to move yesterday instead of fucking around waiting for Contreras/Bell.  Or maybe the cost was nuts anyway.

[tx 3 putt 76905]

Just a fyi …

 

3 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Looks like Soto and Bell to SD so mark them off lol 

 

padres bulking up !

[Scraps 13561]

Go ahead and pay Will that $1 mil today 

[Wulaw Horn 19069]

San Diego is good for us on that trade. 

[kevwun 15774]

I don't even want to guess what the Padres gave up and yeah, much better than the Dodgers or Yankees.

Edited August 2, 2022 by kevwun

[tx 3 putt 76905]

3 minutes ago, runthebone said:

I think Click was smart to move yesterday instead of fucking around waiting for Contreras/Bell.  Or maybe the cost was nuts anyway.

now that that trade cleared, deals are about to fly 

[Guadaloopy 10960]

I will always like Michael A. Taylor for kicking the Cubs in the dick in the 2017 playoffs.  

[Mo Horn 8832]

2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I don't even want to guess what the Padres gave up and yeah, much better than the Dodgers or Yankees.

10:47am: The Padres and Nationals are in agreement on a deal that sends Soto and first baseman Josh Bell to San Diego, Morosi reports. San Diego will send back rookie shortstop C.J. Abrams, top outfield prospect Robert Hassell III, right-hander Jarlin Susana and top outfield prospect James Wood, according to Morosi.

[Scraps 13561]

2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I don't even want to guess what the Padres gave up and yeah, much better than the Dodgers or Yankees.

 

[runthebone 7969]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

 

Oh, Susana, too?

[tx 3 putt 76905]

Nationals probably wanted whitley from us !

[Gut Wagon 8065]

Those Padres shipped to DC must be pretty good to net that haul. But I share in being happy Soto didn't end up in NY or LA. 

[HtownHorn 14677]

Should see movement on Contreras now.

[kevwun 15774]

The two outfielders are highly ranked, but are young and both are still in A ball.

[Guadaloopy 10960]

Seems like only yesterday when Freddy Galvis and Wil Myers were the best players on the Padres roster.  

[Pablo 494]

The Pads shoving all in.  Don't know enough about their ownership, but damn they're going to have some expensive contracts.

[Gourmand 7774]

4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Should see movement on Contreras now.

Can't see the Click having any interest in him after Vazquez/Mancini trades.