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  On 9/25/2022 at 6:05 PM, tx 3 putt said:

I would have guessed 1st ….

 

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it should absolutely count caught stealing and pickoffs, if you're truly counting "outs on the bases".  counting force plays is ridiculous and obviously shouldn't be involved.  it almost sounded like they tried to find the stat that the astros would be worst at, and this was it.  maybe we don't have the worst in the league, but top ~10% is impressive. 

we just seem to make a lot of bad decisions stretching to 2nd and 3rd, but mostly sound decisions on going home.  might have to do with analytics/advanced scouting on outfield arms throwing home.  sounds more like a player problem, not a pettis problem.

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Damn, I love Tucker but that AB with bases loaded earlier was awful. Struck out "swinging" against an 8+ ERA guy struggling to find the zone, despite never seeing a ball in the strike zone and never taking a full swing. 1 bad called strike and 2 check swings at shit.

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  On 9/25/2022 at 6:37 PM, henrygandorf said:

it should absolutely count caught stealing and pickoffs, if you're truly counting "outs on the bases".  counting force plays is ridiculous and obviously shouldn't be involved.  it almost sounded like they tried to find the stat that the astros would be worst at, and this was it.  maybe we don't have the worst in the league, but top ~10% is impressive. 

we just seem to make a lot of bad decisions stretching to 2nd and 3rd, but mostly sound decisions on going home.  might have to do with analytics/advanced scouting on outfield arms throwing home.  sounds more like a player problem, not a pettis problem.

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If solely for purposes of these rankings, I think every base advanced on an errant pickoff attempt should offset a caught stealing or true TOOTBLAN. 

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  On 9/25/2022 at 7:32 PM, Storm the Field said:

Damn, I love Tucker but that AB with bases loaded earlier was awful. Struck out "swinging" against an 8+ ERA guy struggling to find the zone, despite never seeing a ball in the strike zone and never taking a full swing. 1 bad called strike and 2 check swings at shit.

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He got fucked twice on that AB  Bad strike call and called a swing when he clearly checked it. 

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  On 9/25/2022 at 9:29 PM, Mo Horn said:

Didn't Altuve hit in the 10th? I know Pena was out, but I thought that meant Altuve would be in 2nd and Diaz batting? Altuve batted 2 times in a row. 

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No, caught stealing 3rd out means new AB for guy at the plate.  Last AB never happened.

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