2022 Houston Astros Thread

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

The 12.5 game lead is one thing but the 72 run differential with the 2nd place team in the division is even more hilarious. 

This division is awful. 

[UTexasFight 9369]

7 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The 12.5 game lead is one thing but the 72 run differential with the 2nd place team in the division is even more hilarious. 

This division is awful. 

20 more against the division this month… and none against the rangers. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Just now, UTexasFight said:

20 more against the division this month… and none against the rangers. 

I thought we would this division by 20 games and I still believe that. 

The Rangers are shitty and in 2nd place. That's all you need to know. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

15 minutes ago, dr99 said:

They were trying to will the Astros not winning the division into existence

That is 1 billion percent how it read and sounded. You could tell nobody had any valid reason for it they just wanted it to be that way. 
disingenuous shit heads in the press. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I thought we would this division by 20 games and I still believe that. 

The Rangers are shitty and in 2nd place. That's all you need to know. 

I think I predicted the Rangers to be much improved and the Mariners to be big disappointments. I thought the angels would win 88 or 90 or something. 

[The Dog 43771]

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I think I predicted the Rangers to be much improved and the Mariners to be big disappointments. I thought the angels would win 88 or 90 or something. 

Why did the Mariners get so much hype anyway?

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

I think I read somewhere that Urquidy scrapped his cutter and went back to his slider or something like that 3 starts ago. It was how he was pitching last year. Anyway/ he’s been really really good his last 3 starts since he did that, and not against crappy lineups either. 
he was the only guy who hasn’t been solidly above average on this staff this year. But he has been in the past. And he’s done it in mug games. And he’s back to doing what he’s done successfully before. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

Just now, The Dog said:

Why did the Mariners get so much hype anyway?

Because people are stupid. They made a big jump last year to 91 wins and nobody that writes for a living outside of Bill James appreciated or understands the plexiglass principle. They view that as a way station on an upward course when in reality it’s almost always a wall to bounce off of and the team has a worse record the next year. 

[Scraps 13531]

If Astros lose more than 5 or 6 games this month that is a fail

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

1 minute ago, Scraps said:

If Astros lose more than 5 or 6 games this month that is a fail

Woah woah woah  

It’s not like we play the Yanks and Mets all month long. 

Edited July 2, 2022 by Wulaw Horn

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Even the Angels were getting some hype before the season. 

The Rangers made some sense with the free agent moves but I don't know how anybody could believe they were going to challenge the Astros. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

8 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Even the Angels were getting some hype before the season. 

The Rangers made some sense with the free agent moves but I don't know how anybody could believe they were going to challenge the Astros. 

Yeah- nobody had the Rangers winning the division or anything. But I thought they might finish with like 82-85 wins. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

There were lots of people predicting we wouldn't win the division last season. 

My theory is there's still a lot of bias because of the scandal. People want to believe we aren't good. 

[tx 3 putt 76158]

Just keep rolling 

[henrygandorf 29174]

34 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

they just wanted it to be that way. 

[henrygandorf 29174]

 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Altuve has become my all time favorite Houston player. 

I didn't think it was possible for anyone to pass the Dream but it's happened and I'm not afraid to admit it. I hope we can get another ring with him here. 

[HtownHorn 14446]

I don't think Trout is interested in the Angels anymore. What is that 9 straight ABs with a K, it just has to be a mindfuck to wake up every morning and know that no matter how much WAR I produce this team sucks.

[HtownHorn 14446]

14 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

 

The best part of having so many options in the rotation, the competition on the team to keep a spot in it. We are legitimately 8 deep right now (including Brown) in guys I would feel comfortable with starting in the playoffs.

[HtownHorn 14446]

I think Seattle will settle in as the 2nd place team in the division, they are missing a lot of talent to the IL right now. Once they get Lewis and Haniger back, their offense should  be a lot better.

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

(including Brown)

I really hope we use Brown out of the bullpen. The guy is too good to not be given a chance. 

[tx 3 putt 76158]

Y’all are crazy, this bullpen is damn good and we have odo coming back. LMJ later this season. brown isn’t bumping anyone from this staff right now 

[WBT 20397]

Don't let Wulaw see y'all sleeping on Whitley!

[kevwun 15595]

He's starting game 1 of the playoffs.

[tx 3 putt 76158]

4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He's starting game 1 of the playoffs.

for the Space Cowboys 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

9 minutes ago, WBT said:

Don't let Wulaw see y'all sleeping on Whitley!

Brown is in line in front of Whitley I have to think

i thought the people asking for more starters before the year were crazy, now I think it must be a bit to say you want to add an arm at the deadline and are against trading anyone. 
We have too much pitching. Period. Full stop. You don’t need 11 guys in your organization that can be above average starters. You need 4 starters, tops, in the playoffs. 
The Astros are going to win the division by 20 games. 
I contend that the Astros could still win the division with an August and September rotation of Bielak, Whitley, Brown, Odorizi and Urquidy. That would literally mean skipping the entire best 5 in your organization. We can’t even get innings in the bullpen to Brian Abreu. It’s overkill in a numbers standpoint. If you can trade one or two of those guys for something that is valuable in the future you can do it. If you can make the team bette this year dealing out of your surplus then do that. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

The only concern with Brown are the walks but I refuse to believe he's not going to be a good big leaguer. 

If he can figure out the walks I truly believe he can become an ace here. 

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

We aren’t to the all star break yet. Injuries can and will happen. Let’s pump the breaks on trading a starting pitcher just yet. 

[kevwun 15595]

6 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The only concern with Brown are the walks but I refuse to believe he's not going to be a good big leaguer. 

If he can figure out the walks I truly believe he can become an ace here. 

Yeah, if he improves his control, he's going to be a very good starter.  The only time he gets in trouble in AAA is when he doesn't throw strikes.  He's unhittable at that level when he's on.

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

5 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

We aren’t to the all star break yet. Injuries can and will happen. Let’s pump the breaks on trading a starting pitcher just yet. 

Sure. August 3rd is the deadline. You should know about LMJ and Odo by then. You might also be ready to bring up Brown at this rate, and you should have a little bit more data on Whitley. I think he’s probably next year though. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

Just looked at the schedule and we literally are down to 14 games against teams that are really good. 
2- NYY

3- Boston

3- atlanta

6- Tampa Bay. 
 

we also have 3 with the Twins and 4 with the Guardians but I don’t count them because they suck and we should win convincingly. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Yeah, if he improves his control, he's going to be a very good starter.  The only time he gets in trouble in AAA is when he doesn't throw strikes.  He's unhittable at that level when he's on.

I really hope we don't move Brown but you have to wonder how much value he has and the Astros need another big bat. 

Seems like we have better options to move  but Brown's swing and miss stuff must have other teams salivating. 

 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Just looked at the schedule and we literally are down to 14 games against teams that are really good. 
2- NYY

3- Boston

3- atlanta

6- Tampa Bay. 
 

we also have 3 with the Twins and 4 with the Guardians but I don’t count them because they suck and we should win convincingly. 

If it goes like 2021, our heroes will be swept by the Tigers and Baltimore.

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

8 minutes ago, slorch said:

If it goes like 2021, our heroes will be swept by the Tigers and Baltimore.

Yeah, it’s baseball so shit like that is on the table, but man, it’s a weak schedule. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

10 minutes ago, slorch said:

If it goes like 2021, our heroes will be swept by the Tigers and Baltimore.

Yeah, it’s baseball so shit like that is on the table, but man, it’s a weak schedule. 

[Pimphand 5587]

 

2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I think I predicted the Rangers to be much improved and the Mariners to be big disappointments. I thought the angels would win 88 or 90 or something. 

I don't understand how anyone of sane mind could think the Rump Rangers offseason was even remotely good.  I guess I'll let you off the hook for saying much improved and yes they will lose far less than 102 games this season.  However they spent way too much money on 2 shortstops in Corey Seager (10 yr $325 million) and Marcus Semien (7 yr $175 million) who are both performing very middle of the road then traded for Mitch Garver who is performing adequately at the plate for a catcher but not exactly moving the needle. I mean tying up half a billion dollars in 2 players that play the same position and produced 3 all star appearances across 16 MLB seasons is the stuff desperate fart huffers do not someone looking to actually win divisions and do things in the playoffs.  We still have a ways to go in terms of evening the Silver Boot stats but the last 6 years have been a fart huffer bloodbath in terms of when looking at the two franchises historical performance when prior to that a case could be made that both were relatively equal.

[UTexasFight 9369]

41 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Just looked at the schedule and we literally are down to 14 games against teams that are really good. 
2- NYY

3- Boston

3- atlanta

6- Tampa Bay. 
 

we also have 3 with the Twins and 4 with the Guardians but I don’t count them because they suck and we should win convincingly. 

And all 6 against Tampa should be after the division is clinched 

[UTexasFight 9369]

13 minutes ago, slorch said:

If it goes like 2021, our heroes will be swept by the Tigers and Baltimore.

Eyeing that 7 game mid-august trip to the south side and atlanta followed by Correa’s return to Houston for the annual 2nd half swoon… but hoping for LMJ to return and provide a spark and keep things loose 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

The Dodgers really gave us Yordan for Josh Fields. 

 

[LCHorn 2582]

55 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I really hope we don't move Brown but you have to wonder how much value he has and the Astros need another big bat. 

Seems like we have better options to move  but Brown's swing and miss stuff must have other teams salivating. 

 

well, we don’t really have to wonder.  He’s #100 on Jim Callis’ list and probably #100-#150 elsewhere.  I doubt that commands the kind of bat the Astros would (I think) target (I think they prefer someone at least a couple of seasons away from free agency).  

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

7 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

well, we don’t really have to wonder.  He’s #100 on Jim Callis’ list and probably #100-#150 elsewhere.  I doubt that commands the kind of bat the Astros would (I think) target (I think they prefer someone at least a couple of seasons away from free agency).  

My bet would be that he’s considered borderline top 50 guy right now within the industry. But yeah- i don’t think that probably seals the deal on a big bat with a couple years of control, and that’s likely too much for a guy like Josh Bell from the Astros perspective. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Wasn't Chandler Rome saying recently how much other organizations loved Brown? 

With the Astros being in win now mode there are likely going to be some tough decisions at the deadline. It would have to be a really quality player to justify moving Brown. 

[Bender Bending Rodriguez 1669]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

Why did the Mariners get so much hype anyway?

They won 90 games in 2021, but had a -51 run differential. Their expected win total should have had them around 5-10 games under .500. 

[TonyTexas 10478]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Just looked at the schedule and we literally are down to 14 games against teams that are really good. 
2- NYY

3- Boston

3- atlanta

6- Tampa Bay. 
 

we also have 3 with the Twins and 4 with the Guardians but I don’t count them because they suck and we should win convincingly. 

Yep. We have the easiest schedule ROS

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb/remaining_schedule_strength

[Bender Bending Rodriguez 1669]

14 games between now and the All-Star break..

Vs Angels (tomorrow)
Vs Royals (4 games)
At A’s (3 games)
At Angels (3 games)
Vs A’s (3 games)

Currently 50-27. If the Astros can go 10-4 against that, they’ll have 60 wins at the break with 71 games remaining. A barely above .500 second half would get them 100 wins. I didn’t think this was a 100 win team before the season started. I felt this was a 90 win type team that would enter the playoffs as one of those experienced teams that that had a punchers chance to win it all. I underestimated the pitching. 

[Gut Wagon 8052]

Would be a dream to get Bryan Reynolds for a few young arms (not including Brown). In part to keep him away from the Yankees and force them to keep playing two OFs who can't hit. 

[Gourmand 7774]

Remember when everyone on this thread was pissed off about this team like the entire month of April? 
 

Was gonna post about this early this afternoon, still funny to me how many chicken littles were posting like the run of badassery was over after three weeks of play.

[DaysOff 7821]

Hi

[DaysOff 7821]

We're still a team of mostly no name over achieving scrubs. Everything is awful.

[Gourmand 7774]

10 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

machete should be bunting every single time he comes up.  even if there are no runners on base or there are 2 out.  just for practice.