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ConferenceRoom
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Will you shut the fuck up?

Dr. Teeth
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If I want to see a team representing a terrible group of people overpaying to underachieve, I’ll watch Texas A&M football. 

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all 11 players on Wales, England, USA should wear a rainbow armband tomorrow.    “give us 33 yellow cards you oil loving fuck faces”

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1 hour ago, WBT said:

Poooor qatar.  It's fitting that aggy has a campus there.  Their huge overpay for the WC with no apparent sportswashing benefit is like the jimbo contract writ large 

LOL I forgot that aggy has a bullshit "campus" in that fucking shithole. That's perfect all the way around.

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anyone wondering why the fox crew appear to be aligned with the qataripravda angle...
... from the espn article naming adams captain for tomorrow ...
"FIFA announced Sunday that the U.S.-Wales match will be refereed by Qatari officials, led by Abdulrahman Al Jassim.
Al Jassim refereed three matches at the Gold Cup in 2019, including the Americans' 1-0 victory against Panama. He also refereed the U.S.' 6-0 win against New Zealand at the 2017 U-20 World Cup in the Round of 16, in which Adams, Josh Sargent and Luca de la Torre all featured."

It’s out in the open. See post #287. Fox was paid by Qatar to provide top notch coverage and not bring up anything uncomfortable.
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Beer ban is show of strength and an almighty two fingers up to Qatar’s critics

Late decision on the sale of alcohol in World Cup stadiums shows that the host nation is running the show, not Fifa

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The ink was barely dry on Qatar’s decision to ban alcohol from World Cup stadiums when an informed insider in Doha was asked why it was happening now, just 48 hours before the tournament’s big kick-off. His response was succinct. “It’s a deliberate fuck you to the west.”

Of course it was. Yes, the Qataris wanted to ensure that fans of every nation, religion and creed feel comfortable at matches – and that wouldn’t be the case if some were boozed-up or blotto. And yes, Qatar remains a conservative Muslim country, in which alcohol is alien to the culture. But that was true on 2 December 2010, the day it won the right to host the World Cup, every bit as much as today.

So for it to rip up its promises and policy so late in the day should be seen for what it is: a show of strength and an almighty two fingers up to its critics.

But, as another well-connected football consultant put it, Friday’s decision is part of a notable change in tack from the Qataris.

“For years, they have appeared contrite and humble amid questions about their record,” he said. “But now with the World Cup so imminent, their attitude has changed. The geopolitics around energy, and the west’s increased need for gas during the war in Ukraine, makes them think they are immune. And if someone attacks them, they hit right back.”

Take LGBTQ+ rights. For years, western reporters and human rights groups have criticised Qatar’s record. For years, itthe host country has stuck to giving vague assurances that everyone would be welcome. Then this month a Qatari World Cup ambassador, Khalid Salman, called homosexuality a “damage in the mind” and warned gay fans they would “have to accept our rules”. That is some adjustment.

Meanwhile when the Sunday Times suggested that Qatar had been using private investigators to target journalists, it didn’t let it pass. Instead it threatened legal action “to ensure those responsible are held to account”.

Qatar also believes it has made significant progress on workers’ rights and that this has been largely ignored by a western media who continue to focus on the negatives. That has furthered fuelled its anger and frustration.

Yet, in recent days, Qatar has also sent a more inflammatory message: that many criticisms of its human rights record are based on western racism, or a misplaced sense of western superiority.

That message is largely erroneous. And it is misplaced. But it is gathering force by the day.

As Qatar’s labour minister, Ali bin Samikh al-Marri, put it this week: “They don’t want to allow a small country, an Arab country, an Islamic country, to organise the World Cup.”

He added: “Some politicians and some media outlets in western countries have lost the moral and professional motive in their attack against Qatar.”

That message has been echoed by local media. When a handful of people in the western press questioned whether India-born supporters of England, Brazil and Argentina might be “fake fans”, the Doha News quickly played the racism card.

Meanwhile the state-run Qatar News Agency enthusiastically endorsed the official position, noting that: “His Excellency pointed out that the false slander campaign transgressed all limits in its attempt to discredit Qatar, the latest of which was the claim that the World Cup organisers used fake fans who receive money to attend the matches.”

What makes Qatar’s behaviour more remarkable is that usually in the buildup to a World Cup, the Fifa show takes over. Rules are introduced to ensure things are done a certain way, and that brands such as Budweiser who are paying $75m (£63m) are heavily promoted. Not here. Not now.

Fifa president Gianni Infantino Fifa president Gianni Infantino has some explaining to do to Budweiser, who are paying $75m to have their beer promoted in Qatar. Photograph: Martin Meissner/AP

Instead the Fifa president, Gianni Infantino, will spend Saturday morning answering searching questions about whether his organisation will face a massive lawsuit, which ensures the story will run for another 24 hours.

But this story isn’t about whether beer should be sold at stadiums. In truth, if the Qataris had decided to ban it years ago, the issue would have long blown over. It is about shifting goalposts and worrying uncertainties.

For years it has talked about finding a middle ground between Qatar’s conservative culture while doing its best to accommodate the 1.2 million expected visitors; an entirely reasonable position. But after this, how do we know that other assurances will not also be discarded over the next month? After all, if the Qataris are prepared to disregard the wishes of Fifa and its major sponsors, who could be next?

Can LGBTQ+ fans really trust that they won’t be censured for holding hands? Will England fans get in trouble for a minor cultural misunderstanding, despite Qatari claims they will take a patient and relaxed approach?

At least one thing has become clear. This World Cup will not only be played on Qatar’s turf, but by its rules too.

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2022/nov/18/qatar-beer-ban-a-show-of-strength-and-an-almighty-two-fingers-up-to-its-critics

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Just went back and watched the highlights after a really fucked up weekend.

On the PK...

7 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Why no red card for the keeper there as a clear denial of goal scoring?

This is that double jeopardy thing where it was DSOG in the box. They don't give the red card there because the PK is awarded. It is one of the few instances of that.

 

7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

What do you think a qartari player would have to do to earn a red card in this tournament?

 

Drink a beer I suppose.

 

 

5 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Seriously what the fuck was that computer animated shit? VAR is used every week all around the world and never once have I seen any of them use something like that to show us what the call was

5 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:


they are experimenting with this new 3D technology at the World Cup. It hasn’t been used before today’s game. 

Isn't this the same system they are using in the UCL, where they have that "semi" automated offsides call system? I have seen CGI graphics make calls like this before.

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1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

 

Isn't this the same system they are using in the UCL, where they have that "semi" automated offsides call system? I have seen CGI graphics make calls like this before.

More details on the UCL VAR:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/story/4736191/champions-league-welcomes-semi-automated-var-offsidebut-whats-it-all-about 

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1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

This is that double jeopardy thing where it was DSOG in the box. They don't give the red card there because the PK is awarded. It is one of the few instances of that.

Also, the ref played advantage and the eventual shot was cleared at the line by another defender who was back.  I'm not sure where he was at time of the foul but he could have been close enough to rule it not a clear goal scoring opportunity.

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40 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

With what happened in Colorado Springs, take the fucking yellow and wear the rainbow captain's armband. Sounds like Kane will wear the "One Love" armband and take the yellow as well for England. Not sure the Welsh plan. Definitely know the Iran plan.

Regardless, fuck Qatar.


all 11 players on Wales, England, USA should wear a rainbow armband tomorrow. 
 

“give us 33 yellow cards you oil loving fuck faces”

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8 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

It’s out in the open. See post #287. Fox was paid by Qatar to provide top notch coverage and not bring up anything uncomfortable.

i have not had time to keep up with this forum and in particular both of the mundial threads so i apologize in advance if i post stuff or reply with opinions that have already been covered

so that said i assume the sub rules have been discussed, and how they might impact strategy, and if there is a prior post or series of posts discussing this would appreciate a url or post#

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Its only 10:40PM here, really fucking amped for this game now. Realized an hour ago the last time the US opened group play my twins were 1 month old and I got home late from work and missed Dempsey scoring within the 1st minute against Ghana. Had to scream in silence as the twins were asleep in my bedroom while catching up. 

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This is my first World Cup in the USA with the USMNT competing since 2006. 

I was living in LA then and that is a much better soccer town than Dallas. 

The comparative lack of onda is kind of a bummer. At least in Denver in 2018, there was an Argentine owned empanada shop that hosted game-watching events.

 I just hope that this Cup is a fiasco for Qatar and marks the beginning of the end of their dreams of grandeur. 

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DOHA, QATAR—Unveiling several policies for the upcoming international soccer tournament, the nation of Qatar announced Sunday that its World Cup stadiums would cut off human sales after the 75th minute of each soccer match. “We want fans to enjoy themselves, but we also want to provide a safe environment, so get your human purchases in early,” said Qatar’s World Cup ambassador, Khalid Salman, ending speculation over whether the host country might completely ban the sale of human beings at its eight tournament stadiums. “We’re pleased to offer a wide selection of people—we’ve got Indians, Nepalese, Bangladeshis, and many more to choose from. We simply ask that you plan ahead so that, after the game, we can ensure spectators are able to exit the stadium in an orderly fashion and get home safely with their purchases. We’re also limiting sales to two humans per purchase, but don’t worry—you can come back as many times as you like. Whether you’re buying your person for forced labor or prostitution, we just ask that you do it in moderation.” Qatari officials added that there would also be a strict no-tolerance policy against fans bringing their own slaves into the game.

https://www.theonion.com/qatar-world-cup-games-to-cut-off-human-sales-after-75th-1849769611

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10 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

With what happened in Colorado Springs, take the fucking yellow and wear the rainbow captain's armband. Sounds like Kane will wear the "One Love" armband and take the yellow as well for England. Not sure the Welsh plan. Definitely know the Iran plan.

Regardless, fuck Qatar.

They all abandoned the One Love armband, choosing to abide by FIFA's rule. 🙄

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1 hour ago, texashorn13 said:

Any of you fine gentleman know of a good place in or around the Flower Mound/Highland Village area to watch today’s match?

Sorry can't help with that location but Barra 76 Dallas is hosting watch parties at Sylvan Avenue tavern. We have a few autographed jerseys to raffle off and 300 dollar beer credit for revolver. Open to everyone if you are in the area 

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11 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

Which is also ridiculous. Three, maybe. Two is absurd.

Hasn't it been 3 in the past and then they reset for the playoff?

No, it's always been 2. They wipe them after the quarters, so you have 5 games to not get 2 yellows. It's pretty fair overall. It's certainly better than some of the qualifications where they have 2 yellows across a ridiculous amount of games (CONCACAF was 2 across 14!!!).

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On 11/20/2022 at 2:14 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I'm just here to say fuck Qatar.

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Gay People flag is being confiscated by the Anti-Gay Police.  They aren't buying that Brasilian's bullshit story about it being the flag of the State of Pernambuco.

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2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Live look at Buenos Aires:

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That is more likely to be the early-mid 1920s.

Looking south, the Palacio Barolo is on the left, the tallest building in the country when it was built.

Read on…

 

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HISTORY:

Italian architect Mario Palanti was commissioned to design the building by the empresario Luis Barolo, an Italian immigrant who had arrived in Argentina in 1890 and had made a fortune in knitted fabrics. The basic design, in eclectic style, was conceived simultaneously with one for the Palacio Salvo in Montevideo, Uruguay.

The Palacio Barolo was designed in accordance with the cosmology of Dante's Divine Comedy, motivated by the architect's admiration for Alighieri. There are 22 floors, divided into three "sections". The basement and ground floor represent hell, floors 1-14 are purgatory, and 15-22 represent heaven. The building is 100 meters (330 feet) tall, one meter for each canto of the Divine Comedy. The lighthouse at the top of the building can be seen all the way in Montevideo, Uruguay. The owner planned to use only 3 floors, and to rent the rest.

When completed in 1923 it was the tallest building, not only in the city, but also in the whole of South America. It remained the city's tallest building until 1935 when, on completion, the Kavanagh Building acquired this distinction. Today it houses mainly lawyers' offices, a Spanish-language school, and a store that sells Tango clothing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_Barolo

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