Best NBA team's starting five

[Michael Knight 12977]

Manu

Manu

Manu

Manu

Duncan

[conVINCEd 21469]

29 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

01' wasn't statistically one of Kobe's best year's though.  It was kind of on that 2nd tier but Kobe had a lot of years about that good.  I'll give you it was his best playoff run, but what I'm telling you is, brotha.... you can pick any five years you want for the playoffs for Kobe and Kawhi is still going to outpace him.....by a lot.  01', 09'.  I don't care what you choose.  Hell, you could pick any 3 playoff campaigns you want for Kobe and sort of cheating because they wouldn't be successive campaigns and they wouldn't match Kawhi.  Kawhi is just that good in the playoffs.  And same with a reg season.  Longer time periods help Kobe in comparison because Kawhi is always hurt.

 

You should put quotation marks around “hurt”.

[ztejas 43414]

43 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

01' wasn't statistically one of Kobe's best year's though.  It was kind of on that 2nd tier but Kobe had a lot of years about that good.  I'll give you it was his best playoff run, but what I'm telling you is, brotha.... you can pick any five years you want for the playoffs for Kobe and Kawhi is still going to outpace him.....by a lot.  01', 09'.  I don't care what you choose.  Hell, you could pick any 3 playoff campaigns you want for Kobe and sort of cheating because they wouldn't be successive campaigns and they wouldn't match Kawhi.  Kawhi is just that good in the playoffs.  And same with a reg season.  Longer time periods help Kobe in comparison because Kawhi is always hurt.

 

I mean you clearly aren't a Kobe fan and at this point I'd say you have a weird affinity for Kawhi for a Spurs fan. This is just an agree/disagree type deal except I think in large part I agree with you I just have an issue with how you framed the argument. You also didn't really respond to any of my points about '09 and '10. Granted - I'd hope no one would ever make the argument that all time Kawhi is better - but as far as "at their peak" goes it's much closer than you're trying to paint it. You also seem to be very numbers driven as opposed to results driven and at the end of the day you're discussing this with someone that values winning basketball games over putting up nice shooting %s.

[ztejas 43414]

2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

when on the court.... at the heights of their skills, Kawhi was better and frankly, it's close, but not that close.

And dude... this is an absurd statement and surely you have to know how absurd it is. This isn't a Spurs board. All you're doing is showing your disdain for the guy by saying stuff like this. 

Edited April 18, 2022 by ztejas

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

12 hours ago, ztejas said:

I mean you clearly aren't a Kobe fan and at this point I'd say you have a weird affinity for Kawhi for a Spurs fan. This is just an agree/disagree type deal except I think in large part I agree with you I just have an issue with how you framed the argument. You also didn't really respond to any of my points about '09 and '10. Granted - I'd hope no one would ever make the argument that all time Kawhi is better - but as far as "at their peak" goes it's much closer than you're trying to paint it. You also seem to be very numbers driven as opposed to results driven and at the end of the day you're discussing this with someone that values winning basketball games over putting up nice shooting %s.

Kobe is an all-time great basketball player, he's simply not a top 10 player, and there's nothing wrong with that.  And I did respond to your points on 09' and 10'.  I let you know you could consider them but they weren't really his strongest years at least statistically, especially 10', where one could make the case, Pau was their team MVP especially in the regular season.  It wouldn't help Kobe's case, really.  And yes metrics or statistics tend to be the best place to give evidence or credence to an opinion, because memory or anecdotal  evidence isn't really helpful.  

 

12 hours ago, ztejas said:

And dude... this is an absurd statement and surely you have to know how absurd it is. This isn't a Spurs board. All you're doing is showing your disdain for the guy by saying stuff like this. 

You seem..... sensitive.

 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4739]

Is the assumption that you get the player at the peak of their career, or at the peak of their time with the applicable team? 

[HookEm 2463]

I assumed it was at their peak with the team, which is why I included a specific year for the player to remove ambiguity.

[Don Johnson 4752]

On 4/14/2022 at 5:27 AM, shadow_operative said:

Warriors:

Wilt Chamberlain

Steph Curry

KD

Klay

Draymond

Chris Mullin

Paul Arizin 

Nate Thurmond

Chris Webber

Tim Hardaway

 

thats not bad

Neither Webber(1) nor Durant(3) played with GS for four seasons.

[Underdog 28585]

On 4/14/2022 at 7:51 PM, Aqua Buddha said:

Thunder:

PG -- Gary Payton

SG -- James Harden

SF -- Kevin Durant

PF -- Shawn Kemp

C -- Jack Sikma

See what I did there.....?

DJ off the bench? 

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 hour ago, Don Johnson said:

Neither Webber(1) nor Durant(3) played with GS for four seasons.

sure, but i feel like a guy who wins an mvp and two finals mvps for your organization has to automatically qualify. 

[Don Johnson 4752]

1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

sure, but i feel like a guy who wins an mvp and two finals mvps for your organization has to automatically qualify. 

Not per the OP

[shadow_operative 15932]

39 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

Not per the OP

again, that's fine that the OP made those parameters, But you cannot tell the story of the Golden State Warriors without including Kevin Durant. In fact he's probably the first thing you mention when telling story. so, any set of parameters that doesn't include KD as a warrior is an inherently flawed set of parameters.

[LTtxfan 49147]

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