The Twitter Debate

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,400]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

and the Civil War was about states rights too?  I will stop since this is a Twitter thread so perhaps you can keep it on that topic too.

So, just to be clear: you have no evidence for your contention that Giles Giddings was fighting to preserve slavery but you made assumptions that may or may not be true and were just talking out of your ass? Got it. 

Also, I wasn't the one who took this thread off topic. You did with your asinine statement about Giles Giddings. 

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1 hour ago, Chooky said:

There's a warning to not eat the silica gel packets, even though they're delicious. 

More for us that know better

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53 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

So, just to be clear: you have no evidence for your contention that Giles Giddings was fighting to preserve slavery but you made assumptions that may or may not be true and were just talking out of your ass? Got it. 

Also, I wasn't the one who took this thread off topic. You did with your asinine statement about Giles Giddings. 

Mr Giddings?

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11 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I learned about Texas history by a conservative teacher in small town Texas, 7th grade history in the 80s. The difference then was that conservatives were willing to be honest and acknowledge the motivation of Texian rebels. Today, they lie about it.

If you were to teach this little Texas state document from 1861 in schools these days, you'd probably get in trouble with Abbott and Patrick.

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html

 

[Satchel 6,938]

It would be a real kick to revisit the Whites only legislation that created many of the public colleges in Texas against the backdrop of outlawing DEI. History can be a real nuisance.

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[Longhorn_Fan68 33,871]

I'm no math genius but I don't think that's gonna add up to $44B. I still can't believe that dipshit paid that. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by Longhorn_Fan68

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9 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm no math genius but I don't think that's gonna add up to $44B. I still can't believe that dipshit paid that. 

When you're desperate to read somebody's DMs and to be liked by CatTurd2, no price is too high.

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Fox News is claiming that a bunch of their big advertisers are coming back to Tucker's former time slot after he bailed.  If that's the case, Hannity and Ingraham better watch their asses.

And good to see that Elon is making sure that big advertisers that bailed aren't coming back.

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[kevwun 15,790]

2 birds with 1 stone.

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9 minutes ago, elguapo said:

 

 

Elon and Tucker

 

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[Neonmoon 38,129]

“Will move to technical role”

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,400]

The new Twitter CEO is apparently a social justice warrior who is being brought in to re-institute the former moderation, clamp down on misinformation, eliminate trolls etc .... all to assuage the advertisers on which Twitter depends to sort of break even.  And MAGA Twitter is in meltdown mode. Hilarious. 

Apparently the wunderkind is in the finding out stage of fucking around. 

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[G650 14,261]

18 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

The new Twitter CEO is apparently a social justice warrior who is being brought in to re-institute the former moderation, clamp down on misinformation, eliminate trolls etc .... all to assuage the advertisers on which Twitter depends to sort of break even.  And MAGA Twitter is in meltdown mode. Hilarious. 

Apparently the wunderkind is in the finding out stage of fucking around. 

 

Uh, that is umm, not, what I have heard. I don't claim to know much about her though.

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52 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

Uh, that is umm, not, what I have heard. I don't claim to know much about her though.

All I know, really, is that she's trending among MAGAts who appear outraged.  Example: Catturd

[kevwun 15,790]

Yeah, I don't think that's correct.  She seems pretty MAGA from some stuff I have read.  She wouldn't be the first person to have a seismic shift in political views to get in on that sweet grift game over the last few years.

Edited May 12, 2023 by kevwun

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17 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Yeah, I don't think that's correct.  She seems pretty MAGA from some stuff I have read.  She wouldn't be the first person to have a seismic shift in political views to get in on that sweet grift game over the last few years.

Yeah, what she said to move up the ranks at NBCUniversal seems to differ drastically from her personal MAGA views.

I thought he was hiring her because she could woo advertisers back, but she follows the same shit he and his incels follow.

Edited May 12, 2023 by atomheartbevo

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On 5/8/2023 at 8:43 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Fox News is claiming that a bunch of their big advertisers are coming back to Tucker's former time slot after he bailed.

Tucker didn’t bail, he got shit canned.

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Isn’t fighting social justice and equality exactly what catturd wants?  He certainly isn’t in favor of those things. 

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49 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Yeah, I don't think that's correct.  She seems pretty MAGA from some stuff I have read.  She wouldn't be the first person to have a seismic shift in political views to get in on that sweet grift game over the last few years.

Yeah this is what I saw.

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Edited May 16, 2023 by cactusflinthead

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Stable genius.

 

 

 

[Captainant 27,677]

6 minutes ago, pacman said:

Stable genius.

 

 

 

That top reply is just *chefs kiss*

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I'm not wise in the ways of cost expenditures in the tech space.  But I would think that would have been a pretty simple business decision.  What percentage of our blue check mark $8 people taking full advantage of their 8GB allotment would have to occur before the $8 wouldn't cover the server cost?" 

VP "Uh, looks like about 5% sir"

Elon "Okay where we at right now on that?"

VP "Uh, 10% of 'em sir."

PROCEED!  

[Captainant 27,677]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

I'm not wise in the ways of cost expenditures in the tech space.  But I would think that would have been a pretty simple business decision.  What percentage of our blue check mark $8 people taking full advantage of their 8GB allotment would have to occur before the $8 wouldn't cover the server cost?" 

VP "Uh, looks like about 5% sir"

Elon "Okay where we at right now on that?"

VP "Uh, 10% of 'em sir."

PROCEED!  

Well the going rate for object/blob storage is around 2 cents per GB, but that's in the cloud. On-prem data storage is horrendously expensive once total data quantity start hitting exabyte scale

Edited May 19, 2023 by Captainant

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,871]

here we go. it's as if twitter is actively trying to drive away all their users. sheesh
 

[cactusflinthead 27,598]

Random stuff?

Lulz?

IPIHB?

I dunno, but I do know it belongs here somewhere.

 

[Sawbonz 27,565]

I’ma have to stop her at 4 margs 

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

I dunno, but I do know it belongs here somewhere

The Kobe thread

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

here we go. it's as if twitter is actively trying to drive away all their users. sheesh
 

It's trying to force me to login for a lot more stuff, and seems to be getting worse.  I am guessing that it reads the browser cookies and sees that I have an account, but it's happening in situations where there are no cookies present. I can look at a lot of embedded stuff like on Surly, I can go to specific profiles if I'm not logged in, but like anything I get in my email notifications, requires me to login.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,400]

LOL. Elon threatening to sue Zuck because the new FB app "threads" has stolen a bunch of users.

Twitter Panics Over Threads’ Ascent, Threatens to Sue (msn.com)

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2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

LOL. Elon threatening to sue Zuck because the new FB app "threads" has stolen a bunch of users.

Twitter Panics Over Threads’ Ascent, Threatens to Sue (msn.com)

And (allegedly) a bunch of former Twitter tech staff... who Elon fired

[NameAlreadyInUse 5,112]

The more I learn about this guy, the happier I am that I never bought a Tesla.  Sorry to all of you that fell for his bullshit before he let his true colors fly.

[Satchel 6,938]

Chuckle. He’s acting out because his 44 billion dollar purchase is being torn to Threads 

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Unfortunately, a theft of trade secrets case can be used to perpetrate a lot of legal mischief, if twt has the barest bones to support it.  That usually takes the form of departed (doesn't matter if fired) twt employees working for the facing book in spots where they might use twt information to facing book's advantage.

In probably 75% of those scenarios, the departed employees are using nothing more than talent or skill, which isn't legally actionable, but the case can be kept going for a good long while on that alone.  Probably won't make a shit, but a lot of headlines.

[TexasEd 8,067]

Should go after the one that used their user interface first 

[Satchel 6,938]

26 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Unfortunately, a theft of trade secrets case can be used to perpetrate a lot of legal mischief, if twt has the barest bones to support it.  That usually takes the form of departed (doesn't matter if fired) twt employees working for the facing book in spots where they might use twt information to facing book's advantage.

In probably 75% of those scenarios, the departed employees are using nothing more than talent or skill, which isn't legally actionable, but the case can be kept going for a good long while on that alone.  Probably won't make a shit, but a lot of headlines.

Zuckerberg and team claim not to have any former Twitter employees on the Thread engineering team. Seems to me they are sufficiently versed in corporate crookery so as to avoid any obvious legal exposure. Musk’s unbridled arrogance and hubris have caught up with him.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Unfortunately, a theft of trade secrets case can be used to perpetrate a lot of legal mischief, if twt has the barest bones to support it.  That usually takes the form of departed (doesn't matter if fired) twt employees working for the facing book in spots where they might use twt information to facing book's advantage.

In probably 75% of those scenarios, the departed employees are using nothing more than talent or skill, which isn't legally actionable, but the case can be kept going for a good long while on that alone.  Probably won't make a shit, but a lot of headlines.

There's probably a bunch of contracts between the two companies that limit each others' liability and maybe can divert the whole thing to a private pound-me-in-the-ass arbitration.

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Zuckerberg and team claim not to have any former Twitter employees on the Thread engineering team. Seems to me they are sufficiently versed in corporate crookery so as to avoid any obvious legal exposure. Musk’s unbridled arrogance and hubris have caught up with him.

There's a whole lot of ways you can try to insulate yourself from trade secret liability.  But the fact remains that if you hired any significant number of former employees of any significance, you can be on the wrong end of a trade secret dispute for a couple of years.

[kevwun 15,790]

I have faith in Zuckerberg being able to skirt the laws.  Twitter won’t exist by the time the lawsuit is finished.

Edited July 7, 2023 by kevwun

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,512]

I don’t see how Twitter can claim ownership of IP that allows users to endlessly scroll thru postings. Which at this point is the only aspect Elon could possibly know today about Threads. And that behavior describes every social media site.

I would think the real IP would be in the algorithm that decides which posts to display next. Elon would have zero idea how Threads work behind the scenes. Any lawsuit is a fishing expedition just hoping to discover comms between the developers indicating IP theft.

regardless I hate Facebook maybe even more so than Twitter so I’m cool if this somehow expedites the end of both.

Edited July 7, 2023 by Nice Guy Eddie

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9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Unfortunately, a theft of trade secrets case can be used to perpetrate a lot of legal mischief, if twt has the barest bones to support it.  That usually takes the form of departed (doesn't matter if fired) twt employees working for the facing book in spots where they might use twt information to facing book's advantage.

In probably 75% of those scenarios, the departed employees are using nothing more than talent or skill, which isn't legally actionable, but the case can be kept going for a good long while on that alone.  Probably won't make a shit, but a lot of headlines.

[G650 14,261]

10 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Unfortunately, a theft of trade secrets case can be used to perpetrate a lot of legal mischief, if twt has the barest bones to support it.  That usually takes the form of departed (doesn't matter if fired) twt employees working for the facing book in spots where they might use twt information to facing book's advantage.

In probably 75% of those scenarios, the departed employees are using nothing more than talent or skill, which isn't legally actionable, but the case can be kept going for a good long while on that alone.  Probably won't make a shit, but a lot of headlines.

I mean, which party in this case do you think benefits most from protracted legal action. I wouldn't say Twitter.

Edited July 7, 2023 by G650

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I learned in the 1970s not to invest in anything musk.  It’s a scam. 

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9 minutes ago, G650 said:

I mean, which party in this case do you think benefits most from protracted legal action.

The attorneys.

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2 minutes ago, Bookman said:

The attorneys.

Always. But FB has a lot more cash to throw at this than Twitter.

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2 hours ago, Bookman said:

The attorneys for Facebook.

Fixed, since there's the distinct possibility that Twitter's attorneys don't yet realize they may be working pro bono.