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This whole thing is like if my dumbass decided to buy Columbia Records or Gucci but my sole motivation behind the purchase was to get to hang out with Harry Styles.

But I don’t know shit about the business of the music or fashion industries so every decision I make only answers the question - “Will this get me more Harry Styles?”.

Which destroys the business and causes Harry to stop working with them.

And then I’m a dumb sad broke joke.

It’s genius, really.

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9 hours ago, Goredho said:

Tell me you don't use Twitter without telling me you don't use Twitter.

With as much as a fetish there is on this board for posting tweets, how is it that I’ve never seen any nudity in a tweet posted on IPIHB?

I always just assumed that since they can’t post nudity on Instagram, Twitter must be the same. 

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14 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

What could go wrong with this guy buying Twitter?

 

 

The worst kind of “both-sides.” The dude just wants Republicans to win and if they capture Congress he won’t be out here saying “make sure to split your ballot so power is shared” in 2024. What a shithead. 

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Cross posting from the DT thread so that it can be discussed more frankly.

> The raw twitter data would be the mother of all Cambridge Analytica-esque data sets.  That seems valuable even if the company nosedives in value.

Would any nation states pay more than $44 billion for unrestrained access to 450 million Twitter user's data about what makes them tick and how to influence their behavior?

@Mrs Whiggins contributed this link about how a Twitter employee sold user information to the Saudis

 

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SAN FRANCISCO (CN) — A former Twitter employee accused of helping Saudi Arabia spy on its critics pleaded not guilty Wednesday to 23 criminal counts, including acting as an unregistered foreign agent and obstructing an investigation.

According to a superseding indictment issued July 28, Abouammo used his inside access as a Twitter employee to help Saudi Arabia obtain the private information of dissidents who criticized the oil-rich nation’s government and royal family on Twitter. Abouammo worked as a media partnerships manager for Twitter’s Middle East and North Africa region from November 2013 to May 2015.

Abouammo, a dual U.S.-Lebanese citizen and father of three in his early 40s who lives in Seattle, was arrested in November 2019 and released on bond following a protracted legal battle over his detention.

An unnamed Saudi Arabian official met Abouammo during a May 2014 visit to Twitter’s headquarters in San Francisco and started communicating with him through emails, phone calls and personal meetings, according to the indictment.

In December 2014, the Saudi official gave Abouammo a watch worth at least $20,000 during an in-person meeting in London, federal prosecutors claim. Abouammo did not report the gift to his superiors as required by Twitter policies at the time, prosecutors say.

After receiving that gift, prosecutors say Abouammo used his inside access to obtain the email addresses and phone numbers of two vocal opponents of Saudi Arabia without authorization from Twitter. One of the Twitter users was a prominent Saudi critic with more than 1 million followers, according to previously filed court documents.

An email from the unnamed Saudi official to Abouammo’s employee account in January 2015 contained an attachment regarding one of the targeted Twitter users with a message stating “as we discussed in london,” according to the indictment.

In February 2015, the same foreign official deposited $100,000 in a recently opened bank account in Lebanon in the name of one of Abouammo’s relatives. Abouammo had access to that account and later received wire transfers from it, prosecutors say.

In March 2015, Abouammo sent the unnamed Saudi official a private message through Twitter stating, “proactive and reactively we will delete evil my brother.”

After Abouammo left Twitter on about May 22, 2015, the Saudi official continued to pay him at least $200,00 over the next eight months, according to the indictment.

Before Abouammo resigned from Twitter, prosecutors say he helped connect his co-defendant, former Twitter employee and Saudi Arabian citizen Ali Alzabarah, with a man who acted as an intermediary between the Saudi government and allegedly corrupted Twitter employees. Federal prosecutors say that intermediary is Ahmed Almutairi, of Saudi Arabia, also a charged co-defendant in the case.

Alzabarah allegedly accessed the private data of more than 6,000 Twitter users, including information that can be used to identify and locate dissidents, such as IP addresses and dates of birth, according to a criminal complaint filed in November 2019.

Alzabarah repeatedly accessed one prominent Saudi critic’s Twitter account between May and September 2015, including on Sept. 28 when the Twitter user reported this account had been hacked or compromised, according to federal prosecutors.

After Twitter managers confronted Alzabarah about his unauthorized access of user accounts on Dec. 2, 2015, and placed him on administrative leave, Alzabarah absconded to Saudi Arabia and started working on social media influence projects on behalf of the foreign government, according to the indictment.

Alzabarah and his co-defendant Almutairi are believed to be in Saudi Arabia with outstanding federal warrants for their arrest still pending.

Abouammo faces 23 criminal counts, including acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government, conspiring to commit wire fraud, aiding and abetting wire fraud, money laundering and falsifying records to obstruct an investigation.

Prosecutors say Abouammo lied to the FBI and provided a false invoice to show money he received from a Saudi official was for a consulting gig, rather than a bribe.

He faces 10 years in prison for acting as an unregistered foreign agent and 20 years in prison for each set of charges related to money laundering, wire fraud and obstruction of justice.

Abouammo’s public defender Ellen Valentik Leonida pleaded not guilty to all counts on behalf of her client during a virtual court hearing before U.S. Magistrate Judge Alex Tse on Wednesday.

During a status hearing before U.S. District Judge Edward Chen later Wednesday, Assistant U.S. Attorney Colin Sampson said prosecutors plan to invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act to withhold top-secret information related to the Abouammo investigation. Sampson said prosecutors don’t intend to use that material at trial.

Abouammo’s attorney Leonida objected to withholding that information from the defense.

“The fact that the government doesn’t intend to use any of the material doesn’t mean that it’s not potentially exculpatory or relevant,” Leonida said.

The public defender said she intends to file a motion for a bill of particulars, which could require prosecutors to release more detailed information on the charges against her client. Chen asked both sides to meet and confer before filing any motions.

A further status hearing was scheduled for the afternoon of Oct. 21.

https://www.courthousenews.com/man-accused-of-helping-saudi-arabia-spy-on-twitter-critics-pleads-not-guilty/

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A company that let a lot of workers go and then needs to hire workers. Seems expedient to apply right now if one wanted to be a little closer to the data, right? That's one way. Outright sales as you mentioned, is another. These are risks anywhere, but this situation strikes me as a particularly vulnerable one simply due to the complacency and hubris of its ownership. Debts owed and debts that need resolution.

 

Or finally the option I don't wish to consider is that none of it will matter.

 

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9 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

A company that let a lot of workers go and then needs to hire workers. Seems expedient to apply right now if one wanted to be a little closer to the data, right? That's one way. Outright sales as you mentioned, is another. These are risks anywhere, but this situation strikes me as a particularly vulnerable one simply due to the complacency and hubris of its ownership. Debts owed and debts that need resolution.

 

Or finally the option I don't wish to consider is that none of it will matter.

 

One reason I will never send a sample to DNA analysis companies like 23 and me.  If financial push comes to shove, will the humans who run those companies honor their stated commitment to genetic data privacy?  Or will that data be sold to the highest bidder to honor their fiduciary responsibility to the company and its investors/shareholders?

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Since he's such a believer in shared power, I'm sure he'll turn around and endorse Biden in 2024 when Congress is Republican.  Right?

Oh, wait, this whole acquisition was just about the ultra right wing adding Twitter to its growing State Media brainwashing conglomerate?

Yeah, that sounds right.

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Since he's such a believer in shared power, I'm sure he'll turn around and endorse Biden in 2024 when Congress is Republican.  Right?

Oh, wait, this whole acquisition was just about the ultra right wing adding Twitter to its growing State Media brainwashing conglomerate?

Yeah, that sounds right.

Exactly. Where’s his “vote for Beto” tweet?

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4 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Since he's such a believer in shared power, I'm sure he'll turn around and endorse Biden in 2024 when Congress is Republican.  Right?

Oh, wait, this whole acquisition was just about the ultra right wing adding Twitter to its growing State Media brainwashing conglomerate?

Yeah, that sounds right.

We always use these modifiers, but they don't really apply anymore. In reality, it's just right wing now. There's no such thing as radical right, ultra right, any other descriptor.

Anyone who isn't ultra-MAGA über alles has left the GQP. The lunatics are running the asylum. 

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