2018 Rockets Offseason Thread - LeBron or bust

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

1 hour ago, Simon Honeybone said:

If Kawhi gets shipped somewhere other than LA it sure seems like a sign & trade to Houston is his best bet unless he really did take Shaq's advice to heart and magically doesn't GAF about rings.

For what?

[Slacks 6,792]

I feel like we are about to overpay for capella but not sure what choice we have.
weird as shit that ariza signs with the suns. He’s looking for that payday and not wins I guess.
curious who we go after and knowing morey I know we will see a trade soon. Gonna be a wild week.

He was the only interior player worth playing. It's not overpaying. When he didn't play, the team was neutralized.... even with two max guys. The Rockets have said he's one of the most valuable guys. That was either smoke or truth. If it's true, is not overpaying.

[Slacks 6,792]

If Kawhi gets shipped somewhere other than LA it sure seems like a sign & trade to Houston is his best bet unless he really did take Shaq's advice to heart and magically doesn't GAF about rings.

San Antonio isn't going to trade him in division.

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

27 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For what?

Pop is chomping at the  bit for Ryan Anderson.  Duh.

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

Ariza has his ring. Can't blame him for chasing a little more money.

It's interesting because he took a 1 year deal.  He's 33, at any time his health or athleticism could drop  off a cliff.  I would have thought he look for a longer contract even if it had a lower per-year salary.   

[Chapo 104]

Ariza's biggest strength is his durability, which is a big thing in an aging squad. Anyway, if we resign Luc, I wouldnt lose any sleep.

[Ricky Butler 2,662]

1 hour ago, Chapo said:

Ariza's biggest strength is his durability, which is a big thing in an aging squad. Anyway, if we resign Luc, I wouldnt lose any sleep.

I think his biggest strengths are his defense, 3-point shot, and athleticism on the wing.

[CurlyDumps 4,441]

Ariza shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs, and that’s rounding up. 0-9 in the most important Rockets game in 20 years.  I’m not sad to see him go. Go and get someone who can make fucking wide open 3’s in the playoffs. I think Morey can improve the roster.

Edited July 1, 2018 by CurlyDumps

[Ricky Butler 2,662]

1 minute ago, CurlyDumps said:

Ariza shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs, and that’s rounding up. 0-9 in the most important Rockets game in 20 years.  I’m not sad to see him go. Go and get someone who can make fucking wide open 3’s in the playoffs. I think Morey can improve the roster.

You're right. I'm sure the Rockets didn't want to keep him.

[Chapo 104]

17 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

I think his biggest strengths are his defense, 3-point shot, and athleticism on the wing.

Yeah sure, should have said under rated strength. Nonetheless, he noticeably declined last year.

Morey said Rockets have "new math", ppl thought that meant he had a blank check from Fertitta. Maybe 15m for Ariza was too much or he has something else under his sleeves (hopefully it is not MCW).

[Ricky Butler 2,662]

Just now, Chapo said:

Yeah sure, should have said under rated strength. Nonetheless, he noticeably declined last year.

Morey said Rockets have "new math", ppl thought that meant he had a blank check from Fertitta. Maybe 15m for Ariza was too much or he has something else under his sleeves (hopefully it is not MCW).

Of course. You can lose a good player and it still be the right decision because of payroll. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Why would we be looking at a shitty backup PG after just backing up the bank to CP3? Is MCW considered a g/sf? I'd rather go after a 3 and D wing with length since we lost ariza and will end up matching a huge deal for capella.

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

It's HAPPENING!!!!!!

[BigOrange1 6,422]

22 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

would much rather them go that route than MCW.

[tx 3 putt 76,438]

lebron to the lakers 

[tx 3 putt 76,438]

4 years / $ 154mil

 

 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Well according to this thread we are a bust! 

[tx 3 putt 76,438]

I would like to see Nunnally in a Rockets uni 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

So far we lost ariza and resigned cp3.. yayy? Cmon morey make a move.

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

Paul George or bust?

 

edit: nvm

Edited July 2, 2018 by perfectchaos007

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Paul George or bust?

LOL..... Awesome.  Gonna be uphill battle though.

[Orca of Peace 109]

you can get the Rajon Rondo for cheap. This is very good value as insurance for CP3.

[Tommy Nobis 905]

You're right. I'm sure the Rockets didn't want to keep him.

They didn’t for 15 a year

[Ricky Butler 2,662]

Just now, Tommy Nobis said:

They didn’t for 15 a year

That's what I was saying. They were priced out of the Ariza market because of their other raises.

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

Lance Stephenson just signed with the Lakers

Dominoes are going to start falling fast now that Lebron made his move

Edited July 2, 2018 by perfectchaos007

[BigOrange1 6,422]

3 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

So far we lost ariza and resigned cp3.. yayy? Cmon morey make a move.

resigned green too.

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Any movement or rumors from Houston journalists? I’m confident we sign capella but was hoping to add something to replace ariza 

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

If we lose Capela we may want to take a look at J. Randle

[Dutchrudder 11,123]

Would love to get Tyreke Evans for the MLE if we have any left after signing the rookies.  Should have a bit more than 4m to offer.  That's gotta be more than GS or LA are offering at this point. 

[Orca of Peace 109]

2 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

If we lose Capela we may want to take a look at J. Randle

losing Capella and Ariza without substantive replacements means at least 10 fewer wins. I'm all for Rondo, smart veteran guy who can run the system, an NBA champ too. 

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

Rondo is off the table. Just signed with LA

[TonyTexas 10,482]

Randle to New Orleans

[UDontKnow 10,439]

Allegedly an option for the Rockets.

https://www.thedreamshake.com/2018/7/2/17525400/houston-rockets-will-miss-trevor-ariza-less-than-you-think-looking-at-replacements-wilson-chandler

 

[BigOrange1 6,422]

i'd love to get chandler, but i'm having trouble finding a way to make it happen.

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

I saw that last night too and was trying to figure out how we could trade for chandler? Anderson and filler for chandler? Why would Denver do that? Toss in a draft pick?

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Boogie to the warriors and we are sitting here losing ariza and high fiving about green. Is there not a cap for other teams? 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

There’s literally nothing we could even do to move the needle to even compete over a 7 game series. Bullshit.

[UDontKnow 10,439]

19 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

There’s literally nothing we could even do to move the needle to even compete over a 7 game series. Bullshit.

Trust in Morey?

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

Trust in Morey?

I mean I’m sure he will try but what is even available? Even if we traded for that rumor of Wilson chandler which would be awesome still wouldn’t even move the needle. We have nothing to really spend so we? Trade Anderson for what? This sucks. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Ariza taking the money to the suns looks like a wise deal. Might as well make a little extra money if you know you have no shot.

[Sleepygrad 1,029]

the rocket's best shot just happens to come during the GSW dynasty run of dominance and they're only getting stronger.....fucking shit

[Orca of Peace 109]

honest question -- 

how is Ariza worth $15mil/yr and Gerald Green only $2.4mil/yr ?

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

Does a guy like fertita block morey of a trade or signing doesn’t move the needle? Why would you want to pay a shit load in luxury tax now when there is clearly no shot at all. We are worse without ariza and nothing on the horizon that even gets us close to competing with the warriors. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

2 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said:

honest question -- 

how is Ariza worth $15mil/yr and Gerald Green only $2.4mil/yr ?

Green is a energy guy that fits perfect for this offense but I wouldn’t trust him in a starting role. Plus he plays horrid defense. He was a great compliment to ariza. 

[Dutchrudder 11,123]

Welp, there goes the season. Might as well plan for next year and hope boogie and KD bolt. The Warriors have turned this league into an awfully non competitive exercise in futility. Fuck all those pussies for taking less money to win cheap rings.

[Slacks 6,792]

honest question -- 
how is Ariza worth $15mil/yr and Gerald Green only $2.4mil/yr ?

Gerald Green was on his couch in December, about to retire.
Trevor Ariza was starting at SF for the #1 team in the nba, and guarding the opposing team's best wing every night.

I like Gerald Green... he's not even close to Trevor Ariza in terms of nba value.

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

I wish I knew who Morey was targeting right now. Obviously they have to be a good fit to our system so there are probably some big names we aren't targeting because of that

[Chapo 104]

Welp, BUST it is then. Our main free agent addition is gonna be Nunnally? FML.

Only chance now if enough players gets pissed off (reports state that they are), say screw the verbals, reneged on offers and we get chaos.

[UDontKnow 10,439]

11 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I mean I’m sure he will try but what is even available? Even if we traded for that rumor of Wilson chandler which would be awesome still wouldn’t even move the needle. We have nothing to really spend so we? Trade Anderson for what? This sucks. 

That was sarcasm on my end. Morey made a terrible move signing Ryan Anderson and that's going to haunt until the contract is up. I fear he's done the same with CP3 because 4 years at max is too much.