2018 Rockets Offseason Thread - LeBron or bust

[perfectchaos007 6766]

Melo for Ryan Andersen straight up. I'de do that

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Can Melo still shoot 3's?

A little..... 35-36% last couple of years.  34.7% for career.....

 

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

Just now, perfectchaos007 said:

Melo for Ryan Andersen straight up. I'de do that

You can't.....

[perfectchaos007 6766]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

You can't.....

Well I'm out of ideas then...

[BigOrange1 6607]

5 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Melo for Ryan Andersen straight up. I'de do that

melo is going to be bought out.  if he signs with the rockets, ideally you can still get off of anderson some other way.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

Can’t we buyout Anderson too? What’s the advantage or disadvantage of buying out a bad contract? 

[HtownHorn 15243]

15 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Can’t we buyout Anderson too? What’s the advantage or disadvantage of buying out a bad contract? 

Yes. Advantage is immediate tax relief($20M vs. $8M), disadvantage you have dead cap space for several years. In the Rockets case, they get a $8M hit for the next 4 years.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

So my question is it worth it in our case? 

[Mack Tripper 703]

 

[ChickenSandwich 9918]

Why the hell not?  We have nothing to lose on a one year deal. Dantoni can work some magic and we can got ISO from all over the floor. 

[Ricky Butler 2790]

The Rockets are slowly building a team of superstar players that nobody likes.

[BigOrange1 6607]

watching this summer league game and i'm really hoping there is a spot somewhere in the system for trevon duval.  guy gets to the rim at will.

Edited July 6, 2018 by BigOrange1

[HtownHorn 15243]

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

The Rockets are slowly building a team of superstar players that nobody likes.

Except each other, which all that matters.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

The Rockets are slowly building a team of superstar players that nobody likes.

Who gives a fuck if they are loved by the masses? Win games and a title. 

[Ricky Butler 2790]

36 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Who gives a fuck if they are loved by the masses? Win games and a title. 

It was just an observation. It's an impressive feat.

 

 

... and they don't have a single title between them.

[kopp0e 1135]

4 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

A little..... 35-36% last couple of years.  34.7% for career.....

 

I think Melo would be more efficient with CP3 at the point than running with Russ, in my opinion...

[kopp0e 1135]

3 hours ago, Mack Tripper said:

 

It sounds like it will be between the Rockets & Lakers...

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

9 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

It was just an observation. It's an impressive feat.

 

 

... and they don't have a single title between them.

Well no one cares what another spurs fan thinks.

[Ricky Butler 2790]

11 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Well no one cares what another spurs fan thinks.

Haha! Try again. You let that opportunity slip away like James Harden in crunch time.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

You’re on the Rockets thread. No one gives a fuck what you think so bounce to whatever team you root for is. Lakers? Lulzzz they won’t even sniff the rockets ass this year so fuck off.

[Ricky Butler 2790]

6 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

You’re on the Rockets thread. No one gives a fuck what you think so bounce to whatever team you root for is. Lakers? Lulzzz they won’t even sniff the rockets ass this year so fuck off.

First off, I was just having a little fun. Second off, I'm not a Lakers fan. Third off, lighten up. Fourth off, nice adult trash talk. 

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

5th off suck a dick.

[Ricky Butler 2790]

3 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

5th off suck a dick.

We're better than this. How is 'Melo in isolation? Is he a guy Morey has a plan to plug in and maximize?

[HtownHorn 15243]

8 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

So my question is it worth it in our case? 

I think so as Anderson needs to move on, and I don't think Morey will ever find anyone to take that contract.

[Machinator 32102]

 

[Brothahorn 10096]

Jello is a loser, plain and simple. Last thing this team needs is another questionable playoff guy. Especially when your top two players and the coach struggle with their expectations.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

26 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

He felt undervalued by Houston yet hasn't been offered by any other team? Wouldn't that mean he is undervalued by the NBA in general?

[Slacks 7027]

He's worth more than Levine for sure, but that's a bad contract. Land on 4/60 and keep it moving.

[Simon Honeybone 113]

What Hoosier Horn said...

[Murfdogg21 4548]

1 hour ago, Snacks said:

He's worth more than Levine for sure, but that's a bad contract. Land on 4/60 and keep it moving.

I’m down with it. 

[Ricky Butler 2790]

If Capela was offered a similar contract to Nurkic, then I would say that's undervaluing him because he's a hell of a lot better than Nurkic.

[BigOrange1 6607]

yeah, 4/48 is not enough for capela. 

[HtownHorn 15243]

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

If Capela was offered a similar contract to Nurkic, then I would say that's undervaluing him because he's a hell of a lot better than Nurkic.

Actually they are very similar, and definitely not a $8M per difference. 4/60M is probably Capela's maximum worth right now.

http://bkref.com/tiny/3KFSt

HTH Results

http://bkref.com/tiny/6nVVO

 

Edited July 8, 2018 by HtownHorn

[Ricky Butler 2790]

58 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Actually they are very similar, and definitely not a $8M per difference. 4/60M is probably Capela's maximum worth right now.

http://bkref.com/tiny/3KFSt

HTH Results

http://bkref.com/tiny/6nVVO

 

I disagree. In my opinion, Nurkic has plateaued which is why he was traded. Capela’s arrow is pointing up. 

[BigOrange1 6607]

western conference finals rematch coming up on espn2!

[HtownHorn 15243]

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I disagree. In my opinion, Nurkic has plateaued which is why he was traded. Capela’s arrow is pointing up. 

Nurkic is 23 years old and is Capela's equal on defense with a more rounded offensive skill set.

[Ricky Butler 2790]

52 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Nurkic is 23 years old and is Capela's equal on defense with a more rounded offensive skill set.

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I like Capela a lot more. 

[BigOrange1 6607]

this summer league game has actually gotten a little fun.  rj hunter and de'anthony melton have been the standouts tonight.

[BigOrange1 6607]

 

[deech 2381]

9 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

 

Do 

Not

Want

But I honestly didn't think the Paul/Harden thing would work as well as it did so what the hell do I know?

[Chapo 104]

The Rockets will wait out Capela's bluff. I don't think Capela would want to risk it by playing out the qualifying offer year ( see what happened to DMO, Noel, etc). Calling it at 36 mil for 3 yrs. Thats still alot of money in case things goes south, and you get a chance to earn a max contract in your prime.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

2 minutes ago, Chapo said:

The Rockets will wait out Capela's bluff. I don't think Capela would want to risk it by playing out the qualifying offer year ( see what happened to DMO, Noel, etc). Calling it at 36 mil for 3 yrs. Thats still alot of money in case things goes south, and you get a chance to earn a max contract in your prime.

Who's DMO?  Noel was never in Capela's class....  I could see a 1+1 or just playing on the QO if it gets down to it.....

 

[Chapo 104]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Who's DMO?  Noel was never in Capela's class....  I could see a 1+1 or just playing on the QO if it gets down to it.....

 

DMO  = Donatas Montiejunas.

Noel hasn't produced at the same level but that didnt stop the Mavs from offering a shit ton of money. Now Noel has an injury issue and was happy to sign for the min to be a backup.

All Im saying is that, Capela can gamble or take a compromise but still get life changing money. I assume he would choose the later

[Ricky Butler 2790]

7 minutes ago, Chapo said:

All Im saying is that, Capela can gamble or take a compromise but still get life changing money. I assume he would choose the later

Noel is a bad comp. Not only has he never produced like Capela, I’m not sure he shows up to work. Literally. Capela was a contributing member of a 65 win team. His only fear should be injury. The Rockets should use their leverage, but I don’t see 4/48 anywhere close to getting it done. Teams have cap space next year and someone will spend it on Capela if he isn’t locked up this summer. 

[Dutchrudder 11228]

4 years 60-70m sounds about right to me. At 70m, he would be making 17.5m a year. Great deal for both sides if they can make it happen. Would love to see Capela stay for a long time, he's a good one. 

[Murfdogg21 4548]

16 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

If Capela was offered a similar contract to Nurkic, then I would say that's undervaluing him because he's a hell of a lot better than Nurkic.

You can’t assume Nurkic wasn’t overpaid. 

[Ricky Butler 2790]

2 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

You can’t assume Nurkic wasn’t overpaid. 

Yeah, but that's the name of the agent game. The market conditions this offseason should lead to players being underpaid. So if Nurkic was overpaid this offseason, that's a good thing for Capela because they play the same position. I think the Rockets are going to resign him. I just think he's being devalued on this thread.

[TonyTexas 10683]

I think Capela is going to end up signing a relatively cheap, 1 year qualifying offer with the Rockets then go full unrestricted FA next year when there’s more money available.

 

[Dutchrudder 11228]

That would make sense. It's unlikely Dallas signs DJ next year, and they will need a young center to go with their core. I'm surprised they didn't take a shot at getting Capella this year.

[Orca of Peace 109]

Rockets need another Big off the bench as Capela insurance.