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How many teams will be left when the dust settles in a few years? I think there's a way for all the teams to still have some involvement. I will explain that at the end of this list. Here's my list of the top 32 programs and a list if it goes to 48. There's some debate if it goes to 48, but not much debate if it stops at 32. I guess one could debate Arizona State, but that's about it. The top 32 at least come close to carrying their own weight. Everyone below that line is losing money for t

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Aggy should abstain so the vote is 13-0 and then we can then brand it on their dog.

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27 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

I’m fascinated by the mindset of doubling down so many times after being called a dumbass repeatedly over the course of a few days, then sitting down today and actually deciding it’s time to do some reading and see what this talk about Texas to the SEC is all about. I know this is a message board, talking out of your ass is half of the point, but holy shit. 

It’s kind of unsettling to see his (weak) mea culpa and realize he wasn’t trolling. 

because, deep down, he was really curious about what his own fist would feel like elbow deep in his own anus

 

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

 

You guys can stop handwringing over any of this. Texas and OU will be playing in 2022 in the SEC and the cost of what it takes to get there, if any, won't be coming out of any of our pockets and is already set aside.

Nobody is talking about this, but ESPN owes us $100 Million still for LHN. Our exit fee is $78 million to the SEC. ESPN could buy out LHN, make it SEC network the Ocho, and Texas would actually MAKE money by leaving the B12. Hell, if we are nice (which we aren't) we could even pitch in for OU's exit. The gooners can make up the rest by squatting on Arkies land and selling it back to them.

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3 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Nobody is talking about this, but ESPN owes us $100 Million still for LHN. Our exit fee is $78 million to the SEC. ESPN could buy out LHN, make it SEC network the Ocho, and Texas would actually MAKE money by leaving the B12. Hell, if we are nice (which we aren't) we could even pitch in for OU's exit. The gooners can make up the rest by squatting on Arkies land and selling it back to them.

This is all well and good, but we should still make the SEC pay some of the exit fee.  They benefit from this move financially, too, and they should kick in some of the upfront cost, plus aggy's head will come all the way off, and who doesn't love that?

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5 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

let me sum up

 

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The best part is that aggy is going on a literal witch hunt to find out who knew what and when they knew it. It would be entertaining but like everything else aggy they will just bend over and take it up the ass then try to cover it up.

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11 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

So what's the timeline this week?

Today - Not extending Big 12 GoR
Tomorrow - Formally apply to SEC
Thursday - SEC Presidents vote to allow entry

What does that leave for Wednesday?

Aggy shows their ass Wednesday. Nobody wants to miss that. 

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5 hours ago, 'stache said:

I'm not sure what people are expecting here. "Thanks for the memories guys, good luck!"

They've put us in the shittiest of positions. I understand why they did it, doesn't mean our administrators are supposed to just lie down and thank them for their service. We're actively looking for a P5 home. I don't think we will because the metrics of this shit is dumb as fuck, but whatever. I'm ready to give up on football and hope our basketball and baseball teams find a place where they can still be relevant based on current trajectories.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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Oh Looch here is how it went.

Text from a buddy of mine who has a semi decent connected dad


From whatever group text dad is on

Was talking to Quan. He talked to Luicci for 45 min last night. Apparently SEC brass told atm to get their shit together or they’ll force them out.







You all smeared shit all over yourself and the conference told you if any of it got on their shoes hell would be paid.

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Man Pete Thamel’s piece on UT on yahoo sports…he hates us to and to no surprise barely mentions OU except to say we nixed the 2016 expansion and that OU had interest in Cincy. That will be rank and file nobodies in the SEC and everyone is looking forward to that after our years of bullying when they aren’t worried about their own fates. Jeez…

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Yeah, I think I can safely say that most of the "S-E-C" chants I have heard lately have been coming from the direction of Collie Station.
Look, we'll respect our peers in the SEC, and hopefully they'll respect us.  We're not doing any of that silly ass-kissing shit, though.
Someone needs to get the word to current students that we don't do that shit. Not sure any are registered here
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First off, I know tonight's BOR meeting had everyone up in arms over the weekend, both on the site and all over social media. Personally, I wish the stated purpose would have read differently. It was a bad look that created way too much fodder for a national media that is looking for anything that will stoke the fires and generate clicks and headlines right now and it certainly gave the folks in Austin and Norman even more ammo.

Fortunately, cooler heads appear to have prevailed and the reality is that the BOR meeting (and even an in-person session that may take place on Wednesday) was never going to result in the Ags leaving the SEC, even entertaining that option and also not doing anything wild enough to put their status in the league in any sort of jeopardy. None of those things were ever even a remote possibility, despite what Friday's reaction to the posting would have led you to believe.

What I do think is taking place, however, is what I'd essentially call a 'fact-finding' conversation during which the A&M decision-makers hope to get to the bottom of whether or not anyone on the Aggie side of things dropped the ball when it came to properly gauging the SEC's expansion interests.

The reason why I say that is because the folks on the SEC side (and I have sources around the league now that we're more than a decade into this thing) have all but insisted that A&M knew that expansion was on the table and I've heard that the news of OU and Texas being the targets had not been a very well-kept secret in upper-level SEC circles dating back to the beginning of June (with open talks about possible expansion dating back much further than that). Understand what I'm saying here: That's what is being relayed by sources in and around the league and it's also been conveyed to some in the A&M camp since last Wednesday. Because of that, it goes without saying that one of the goals on Monday will be to find out exactly what happened and where the break in the communication chain occurred...or if that was even the case.

If this was a case of TAMU decision-makers not being as dialed into this thing as they should have been, then the root cause of what would qualify as nothing short of a disastrous PR lapse - and I'm talking about A&M's visceral reaction to being 'blindsided' by the news - needs to be figured out and addressed.

Beyond that, I'm expecting A&M to end up voting in favor of expansion and making it a unanimous, 14-0 vote. Expressing displeasure with Sankey and the league for adding a second school from the Lone Star State and it being the one that Mike Slive told the Aggie decision-makers ten years ago would never enter the conference is fine and A&M brass was well within their rights to be disappointed and even disgusted with the decision. But understand this, A&M could not have prevented the move even if the Ags exerted every amount of leverage imaginable. Why? Because, like I said a few days ago, adding the Sooners and Horns clearly strengthens the conference and elevates its status to unprecedented heights. The money always wins out in these situations. ESPN was very clearly driving this ship and orchestrated the move but all fourteen schools are going to win big in this deal financially, including Texas A&M.

At the end of the day the Aggies - from administration to fans - need to follow the head football coach's lead here. Jimbo Fisher's reaction was priceless on Wednesday upon hearing the news and the reason why it played so well is because it was sincere. "Of course they do," said the fourth-year Aggie head coach while laughing.

Fisher has lived this and thrived. He dominated both Florida and Miami while constructing a monster in Tallahassee and I can assure you he's looking at what he's already assembled in Aggieland and not worried in the slightest about playing the Sooners or Longhorns. Neither are his players. In fact, it's the opposite, as the Ags are counting the days until the Big 12 defectors arrive in the SEC.

The current reality is that Texas A&M Football is positioned as well as it's been in a long, long time. Led by a national championship-winning head coach entering year four, the Aggies are coming off of a top-5 finish, have stacked three straight top-7 classes and are a pre-season top-10 pick. TAMU is considered a legitimate SEC title contender in 2021, thanks in part to boasting four projected first-round draft picks and no fewer than a half dozen First-Team All-SEC candidates. Where are the Ags currently at in terms of their roster? The Ags will have four five-star true freshmen on the roster this fall and there's a chance that each will serve as a role player biding his time in year one.

The point here is that the Ags are ten years in as SEC members and appear poised to take the final step in the League of Champions. Texas A&M looks, feels and is beginning to perform like a legitimate top-10 program and have been on a steady climb under Fisher, who is beginning to see a team that looks a lot like the championship squad he built at FSU. The Ags aren't yet all the way there, but they're very close.

They're also considered by the media and coaches around the conference as one of the 'haves,' something that the folks in Norman and Austin are too delusional to realize or too proud to realize. Prior to all hell breaking loose at SEC Media Days last week, there was more positive chatter than ever in Hoover surrounding Texas A&M. Fisher is football royalty in the Deep South, DeMarvin Leal and Kenyon Green certainly caught everyone's attention as perhaps the most impressive pair of player attendees from a physical standpoint and the conference and national talking heads have all taken notice as to what Fisher is building in College Station. The Aggies are considered on par with the likes of Florida, LSU and even Georgia right now.

With Fisher leading the charge and donor money pouring in and facilities upgrades ongoing, the Ags aren't going anywhere. So while this season and the next are going to be key in terms of A&M maintaining their current position and eventually breaking through the SEC title/playoff barrier, the reality is that the Aggies of 2021 don't even remotely resemble the 2011 edition. The same can be said about Texas

The Ags have the better coach (by far), the better players (a substantial gap) and are better positioned for immediate success in the league. For all the bluster coming out of Austin, the best thing that Steve Sarkisian and the Horns could hope for is to not begin competing in the conference until 2023 or so because it's not the ideal time for Texas to jump into the fray, particularly when it comes to entering at a time when their in-state rivals could be as strong as they've ever been.

To be fair, the pressure is on both sides over the next three or four seasons because Sark absolutely has to get it done in a big way in year one because his task is about to get exponentially more difficult and the Ags have to continue their climb under Fisher because Texas and OU joining the SEC takes away what has been a major recruiting advantage for the Maroon & White in the Lone Star State (conference affiliation). Texas is about to receive a noticeable bump on the trail but that will disappear in a hurry if losses mount this fall and if the Horns don't produce their own version of Johnny Football as they enter the SEC. Hell, even with a Heisman winner at QB, the Ags dropped six SEC games in their first two years in the league before settling into a five-loss pattern.

That pattern has ended under Fisher. At the end of the day, college football is about the head coach as much as any sport in America. Look around the country. Dabo and Clemson. Saban pulling LSU and Bama out of the doldrums. Texas being mediocre for four decades save the Mack Brown Era. OU before Bob Stoops arrived. Florida with Urban and Spurrier vs Florida without the two legends. USC sans Pete Carroll. The list goes on and on. The Aggies finally have their guy and he's the one everyone concerned with the fallout of a changing SEC landscape should listen to:

"Be careful what you wish for."

I'll post a couple of more thoughts on the OU, Texas, A&M and the SEC later tonight
 

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Been reading up on this stuff all day for the first time. It looks like we probably are moving conferences after this season, meaning I’d be wrong. Seems like the political hurdles aren’t as high as I thought. Also I was equating this to the Meyer hunt, but I guess trying to predict the actions of an individual person is very different than predicting the actions of large institutions. Whoops.

So you just talk out of your ass? Not shocking in the least but good to have confirmation
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1 hour ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Dude, I don't have any ill will towards you, but what is it like having so many wrong takes?

 

1 hour ago, UncleSonny said:

I’m fascinated by the mindset of doubling down so many times after being called a dumbass repeatedly over the course of a few days, then sitting down today and actually deciding it’s time to do some reading and see what this talk about Texas to the SEC is all about. I know this is a message board, talking out of your ass is half of the point, but holy shit. 

You should see this  dumbfuck's baseball takes.  Helobious might be the worst poster on the board. Or a sock.

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:


Bold letters on the bottom of the song sheets for Don’t Stop Believing and Sweet Caroline that say
“NO FUCKING SEC CHANTS” might do the trick.

You just know there'll be idiots that do it anyway.

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1 hour ago, Pimphand said:

Holy fuck I just got done with dinner and this thing wrangled off a shitload of pages.

Can I get a summary of the aggy dingleberry meeting today? Did they finally cut off their nose to spite their faces or is it time for the ceremonial sucking of the SEC cocks?

Seems like no new news since page 50 except some SEC anonymous AD said they expected this to happen for 2022.

Cowboy aggy showed their aggy.  Sand aggy and Jayhawk acted like grownups.

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10 minutes ago, C-Man said:

[Dumbass Looch]Fisher has lived this and thrived. He dominated both Florida and Miami while constructing a monster in Tallahassee and I can assure you he's looking at what he's already assembled in Aggieland and not worried in the slightest about playing the Sooners or Longhorns. Neither are his players. In fact, it's the opposite, as the Ags are counting the days until the Big 12 defectors arrive in the SEC.[/Dumbass Looch]

Sure, Jan.

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I stated this earlier but will repeat.  First thing we need to do is have the SEC make it clear to these B12 officials that any unethical fuckery directed at current or future SEC members will permanently disqualify an applicant for future SEC official employment. 

For fucks sake this is cunty aggy sounding drivel. Will you take the lead on the “we need to do” part and call the toll free sec new member hotline? and please make sure they do the same by enforcing meanie pants horns down signs.
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1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

More proof how Texas is The Godfather and not just the big brother. Haven’t seen one tweet about ou who actually started the let’s go to sec movement being the bad guy. Living rent free in the bitches heads.

The B12 was formed when the Big 8 absorbed a dead and fractured SWC.   UT brought 2 little brothers and their rapist cousin and joined powerhouse blue bloods Nebraska and OU and their clan.   
 

Fast forward, when Nebraska gets a sandy vagina and leaves does the conference implode?  Nope.   How about when aggy decides that they are big brother and they are moving out?  Where was the outrage, people demanding the legislature step in, conference folding like a cheap lawn chair? 
 

Right.  Crickets.   
 

Having aggy show their ass repeatedly while being completely oblivious to embarrassment has been the best part of this whole thing.  

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Texas and OU could rob a bank and OU could shoot all the employees and drive the getaway car and run over a bunch of blind nuns jogging for charity and the story would  be “The Wells Fargo tragedy was viciously perpetrated by a man from the University of Texas.” Any reports of a second man wearing crimson and cream are said to be false as eye witness accounts are historically unreliable. While the blind nuns told investigators they heard an individual scream, “Boomer Sooner” as they were being plowed down near campus it’s important to mention they were understandably hysterical and police are not optimistic they can trust what the nuns heard. There is a bolo out for a man wearing burnt orange and the orders are to shoot and kill with extreme prejudice.”

I kid and I get the anger and frustration. I do and why it is directed at us in some ways. But shit, barely a mention on Twitter or elsewhere of anyone saying, “what the fuck is OU thinking? They’ve won the Big 12 almost routinely for the last decade and Heismans and access to all this money…” barely a peep. We take the brunt of all the blame and now aggy is fluffing them like they are an actor in a porn film. Wtf? Bastards. Lol.

I’ve accepted at this point that we’re always gonna be the villain. The narrative of big bad evil greedy Texas destroys another conference is already out there. The irony of being blamed for “destroying” a conference that you basically carry on your back is always hilarious to me

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