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  On 2/11/2023 at 1:07 PM, BRLA said:

I may have missed it upthread, but has there been any information on what happens to the annual funds due to UT from the remaining years on the LHN contract?  

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I doubt we'll hear about that until after the LHN folds into the SEC Network. I'm sure there's a prorated amount we'll get for agreeing to terminate the network early. I know LHN is not everyone's cup of tea but I'm really going to miss Griffin, Fozzy, and Brian Robison. I'm hoping there's a special carve out for them to still do pre and post games. 

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  On 2/11/2023 at 7:57 AM, bullet said:

I miss the Big 12 1.0, when CU and NU were good, BU was Kansas bad, KSU had Bill Snyder 1.0 and we had an offensive line, Ricky, Major, VY and Colt.

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Nahhhhhhh.

I don't give a shit who we play, as long as we beat the snot out of them.

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  On 2/11/2023 at 5:40 PM, mdmost said:

I doubt we'll hear about that until after the LHN folds into the SEC Network. I'm sure there's a prorated amount we'll get for agreeing to terminate the network early. I know LHN is not everyone's cup of tea but I'm really going to miss Griffin, Fozzy, and Brian Robison. I'm hoping there's a special carve out for them to still do pre and post games. 

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i'm hoping there's a special carve-out to keep the network period, costs paid by Belmont, profits if any to the conference, all with the agreement that UiL gets monetized

aggy gets to monetize all of the trees in the state - which they don't own

we get to monetize texas high school football - which we do own

LHN lives on

aggy goes apoplectic

abracadabra

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Posted
  On 2/11/2023 at 8:39 PM, Gidnik said:
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Here you go.

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This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

3)SEC can not eliminate the FCS teams. Can still play lower level FBS but bc of the 8 game conf schedule they can ALL schedule 1-2 bigger non conference games. 

4)Main rivalries are kept and you play every team every other year. Example: Texas plays Ou every year. Texas plays Aggie @ College Station in 2024, in Austin 2026, in CS 2028, in Austin 2030. Texas plays Arky in Austin 2025, Fayetteville 2027, Austin 2029, Fayetville 2031. 

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We’re playing OU every year. Non-negotiable. Arkansas badly wants us every year. The TV networks want the Aggie game. Nine conference games shoot the payment sky high. There you go

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Posted
  On 2/10/2023 at 7:03 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

We signed a really shitty contract in exchange a really shitty bribe from ESPN, the LHN. We were always going to pay to get out early. 

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I believe that ESPN will owe us for the contractual years of the LHN, until 2031.  Someone correct me if that is wrong, but I am pretty damn sure I read this when our league change was first announced.

Posted
  On 2/10/2023 at 1:56 AM, DCLonghorn said:

I will miss the Big 12. I will miss the Big 8 teams. BYU will be the team to beat in the Big 12. Thanks to all those non-Longhorns who have been in this chat for YEARS and taken illogical Longhorn hubris and assholery.

Here's hoping we do better in the SEC/NFL B League than we did in the Big 12... 3 out of 27!!!

Maybe James Brown can be QB1 for the 2024 season.

Since we're too fucking smug collectively, I certainly won't start the chant... But I'm damn excited/scared for the SEC!!!! 

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I only neg trolls.  This has to be a fucking troll.

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Posted (edited)
  On 2/11/2023 at 11:19 PM, cochamps said:

What a pussy.  I remember weiners like you freaking out about playing big, bad Nebraska.  Get a grip.

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What the fuck are you talking about, did you read what I was responding too. Your response is so far off the context of what this response was in regard too.

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Posted
  On 2/11/2023 at 10:15 PM, TheContractor said:

This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

3)SEC can not eliminate the FCS teams. Can still play lower level FBS but bc of the 8 game conf schedule they can ALL schedule 1-2 bigger non conference games. 

4)Main rivalries are kept and you play every team every other year. Example: Texas plays Ou every year. Texas plays Aggie @ College Station in 2024, in Austin 2026, in CS 2028, in Austin 2030. Texas plays Arky in Austin 2025, Fayetteville 2027, Austin 2029, Fayetville 2031. 

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Spoiler alert: We’re playing aggy every year. 

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Posted
  On 2/11/2023 at 11:24 PM, DanTheHorn said:

What the fuck are you talking about, did you read what I was responding too. Your response is so far off the context of what this response was in regard too.

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I am not sure what the fuck your reply is supposed to mean then.  Which is maybe not that surprising...

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  On 2/11/2023 at 10:15 PM, TheContractor said:

This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

3)SEC can not eliminate the FCS teams. Can still play lower level FBS but bc of the 8 game conf schedule they can ALL schedule 1-2 bigger non conference games. 

4)Main rivalries are kept and you play every team every other year. Example: Texas plays Ou every year. Texas plays Aggie @ College Station in 2024, in Austin 2026, in CS 2028, in Austin 2030. Texas plays Arky in Austin 2025, Fayetteville 2027, Austin 2029, Fayetville 2031. 

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Respectfully, this is fucking awful

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Posted
  On 2/11/2023 at 10:15 PM, TheContractor said:

This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

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3+6 will bring in a helluva lot mo' money for the SEC

Expect it to happen

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Posted
  On 2/12/2023 at 12:54 AM, Gidnik said:

Respectfully, this is fucking awful

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disrespectfully, its the best option if you consider fairness, not $. I understand 3+6 is the odds on favorite but if you consider a competitive balance then 1+7 is the best. Networks $ ,probably will feel different 

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  On 2/12/2023 at 2:19 AM, TheContractor said:

disrespectfully, its the best option if you consider fairness, not $. I understand 3+6 is the odds on favorite but if you consider a competitive balance then 1+7 is the best. Networks $ ,probably will feel different 

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Well if you don't consider what fans want, then its ok.  Disrespectfully, you are a mathematical idiot if you think any scheduling is fair when you are in one division and miss 6 out of the other 15 schools.

Posted
  On 2/9/2023 at 5:33 PM, Al_4_ISU said:

The only thing I see missing with Houston is fan engagement.  They definitely have everything else in their favor.

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If they are doing exceptionally well, they get fan support, but if they are not in competition for a conference title, it's back to COVID crowds in Houston.   The first year or two, the fans will show up for home games, but if you see any UH fans when you host them, they are fakes, likely Hawkeye fans in disguise, looking to take a duce in unlocked cars. 

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Posted
  On 2/11/2023 at 10:15 PM, TheContractor said:

This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

3)SEC can not eliminate the FCS teams. Can still play lower level FBS but bc of the 8 game conf schedule they can ALL schedule 1-2 bigger non conference games. 

4)Main rivalries are kept and you play every team every other year. Example: Texas plays Ou every year. Texas plays Aggie @ College Station in 2024, in Austin 2026, in CS 2028, in Austin 2030. Texas plays Arky in Austin 2025, Fayetteville 2027, Austin 2029, Fayetville 2031. 

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If I'm reading this right,  Texas and OU would play Bama every year?

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  On 2/12/2023 at 2:47 PM, Laga4 said:

If I'm reading this right,  Texas and OU would play Bama every year?

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No in the 1+7 format, Texas only plays Ou every year. the 14 other Sec teams are split 7 in even years/the other 7 teams in odd years. column 7 for both Texas and Ou should have read Auburn/Bama

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Posted
  On 2/12/2023 at 2:03 PM, Gaffords said:

If they are doing exceptionally well, they get fan support, but if they are not in competition for a conference title, it's back to COVID crowds in Houston.   The first year or two, the fans will show up for home games, but if you see any UH fans when you host them, they are fakes, likely Hawkeye fans in disguise, looking to take a duce in unlocked cars. 

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Thank you for speaking my language 

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The SEC ending a bunch of big annual rivalries to do a 1+7 format would be dumb.  

Bama should play Auburn and Tennessee every year.  
Auburn should always play Bama and Georgia. 
Etc.

There's no way to make the "+7" rotation fair and balanced, anyway.  It's going to vary depending on who is good in any given year.  3+6 gives the fans the games they want and it makes the most money.  

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  On 2/11/2023 at 5:59 PM, DFW Horn said:

Didn't FCB say we were a lock for the Pac back in, what, 2011?

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I'm not sure if that move would've ever taken place or not, but the PAC didn't do themselves any favors by rushing to invite Colorado so there wouldn't be room for Baylor because there would be no polluting of the PAC 10 with a Christian school. Then a couple of days ago, I was listening to some PAC 12 mouth, they are fine with SMU joining, but really wish they could shake Baylor and TCU free... 

Oh how the arrogant have fallen...  From having their finger on the trigger in position to effectively kill off the Big 12, but there would never be a Christian school in the sacred PAC 10, so the the power division of the Big 12 could either like it or fuck off. To having a Methodist school as one of the two "must have's", but wishing they could get Baptist Baylor and Texas Christian.  

The PAC have been fucking a duck the entire decade this round of realignment has been going on.  Their.  They have fucked themselves continually at only aggy could compete with.  

Whiffed on the entire Big 12 south... Which would've put the PAC shoulder to should with the other two.

Whiffed again on OU, and in the process, likely killed any chance of OU 2ver looking west again when they made a public spectacle of telling OU to fuck off...  As smart as they believed themselves to be, not understand that OU was offering them UT giftwrapped.  It wouldn't have taken long for us to have followed. We damn sure wouldn't have went east at that time, too much bad blood with the gimp little brother...

Then to prioritize getting the PAC into Asia over securing exposure in your home country, like where your recruits are going to be coming from, not to mention the viewers who actually know what an Oregon duck is. Or to be up to their nostrils in quicksand, but each time someone would consider throwing them a lifeline, to carry on as if they were the ones in the position of power and if they were lucky enough to allow them to carry the PAC games, they should be forever grateful, because obviously the PAC wasn't letting just anyone to carry their games..  

 

But when the last AT&T lifeboat was about to push off from the Titanic, offered to make room for them, to insist not only on sitting at the front, but to have the entire bench to yourself?  That's as aggy as it gets. Legends in their own minds...

The punchline to the PAC joke was when they finally got the great visionary, Larry Scott  out of there, it seems they replaced him with Larry Scott 2.0.  I might be wrong, but from the outside, he seems to be every bit as arrogant and will say anything in the moment, without considering that within 24 hours, everyone will know he's full of shit and will make up shit just to look good in the moment without thinking about how it is going to make him/them look by morning. And that's aggy to the core.

Fuck the Pac right along with OU. 

 

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Posted
  On 2/13/2023 at 12:17 AM, Gaffords said:

I'm not sure if that move would've ever taken place or not, but the PAC didn't do themselves any favors by rushing to invite Colorado so there wouldn't be room for Baylor because there would be no polluting of the PAC 10 with a Christian school. Then a couple of days ago, I was listening to some PAC 12 mouth, they are fine with SMU joining, but really wish they could shake Baylor and TCU free... 

Oh how the arrogant have fallen...  From having their finger on the trigger in position to effectively kill off the Big 12, but there would never be a Christian school in the sacred PAC 10, so the the power division of the Big 12 could either like it or fuck off. To having a Methodist school as one of the two "must have's", but wishing they could get Baptist Baylor and Texas Christian.  

The PAC have been fucking a duck the entire decade this round of realignment has been going on.  Their.  They have fucked themselves continually at only aggy could compete with.  

Whiffed on the entire Big 12 south... Which would've put the PAC shoulder to should with the other two.

Whiffed again on OU, and in the process, likely killed any chance of OU 2ver looking west again when they made a public spectacle of telling OU to fuck off...  As smart as they believed themselves to be, not understand that OU was offering them UT giftwrapped.  It wouldn't have taken long for us to have followed. We damn sure wouldn't have went east at that time, too much bad blood with the gimp little brother...

Then to prioritize getting the PAC into Asia over securing exposure in your home country, like where your recruits are going to be coming from, not to mention the viewers who actually know what an Oregon duck is. Or to be up to their nostrils in quicksand, but each time someone would consider throwing them a lifeline, to carry on as if they were the ones in the position of power and if they were lucky enough to allow them to carry the PAC games, they should be forever grateful, because obviously the PAC wasn't letting just anyone to carry their games..  

 

But when the last AT&T lifeboat was about to push off from the Titanic, offered to make room for them, to insist not only on sitting at the front, but to have the entire bench to yourself?  That's as aggy as it gets. Legends in their own minds...

The punchline to the PAC joke was when they finally got the great visionary, Larry Scott  out of there, it seems they replaced him with Larry Scott 2.0.  I might be wrong, but from the outside, he seems to be every bit as arrogant and will say anything in the moment, without considering that within 24 hours, everyone will know he's full of shit and will make up shit just to look good in the moment without thinking about how it is going to make him/them look by morning. And that's aggy to the core.

Fuck the Pac right along with OU. 

 

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I kind of liked the PAC, but you’ve kind of nailed it. 

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  On 2/13/2023 at 1:39 AM, cochamps said:

Seem like mediocre adds but after the LA departures, that will be the norm.  Washington and Oregon and a PAC of spares,  jmo,

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Pretty much. I think SDSU can be a nice piece…eventually. 
 

I’m happy that all bigger Texas programs will have regular, clear access to the CFP. It’ll prevent a lot of bitching in the legislature. Win your games and you’re in. 

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  On 2/11/2023 at 10:15 PM, TheContractor said:

This is how it should be: 1+7. the 3+6 way is not the best option. 

1) 1+7 is the most fair way. 3 permanent opponents is a big imbalance for some teams. Ex: Tennessee will get Vandy, South Carolina, Bama. While someone like Auburn will get Bama, UGA and South Carolina. Ou gets Texas, Florida, Mizzou while Arkansas gets Texas, Kentucky and Mizzou. The path for 1 teams is clearly different than the other. 

2)1+7 keeps the SEC at 8 game schedule which they have used for 25+ years to have an advantage over other conferences. 

3)SEC can not eliminate the FCS teams. Can still play lower level FBS but bc of the 8 game conf schedule they can ALL schedule 1-2 bigger non conference games. 

4)Main rivalries are kept and you play every team every other year. Example: Texas plays Ou every year. Texas plays Aggie @ College Station in 2024, in Austin 2026, in CS 2028, in Austin 2030. Texas plays Arky in Austin 2025, Fayetteville 2027, Austin 2029, Fayetville 2031. 

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Am I reading this wrong?  Looks like Texas and OU would play Bama every year but doesn’t show that on Bama’s schedule.

Edit looks like last column should be Bama/Auburn.

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  On 2/10/2023 at 2:12 AM, 936horn said:

Miss the Big 12? all the second rate schools and programs that thought they were even in the same hemisphere as us the last 30-odd years. 

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We haven't won a Big 12 title in over a decade. 2009 and 2005 mind as well be last fucking century at this point.

Are you seriously throwing academics in the same conversation as football? I'm guessing 40% of the guys that step on most campuses won't graduate with a degree and the ones that do are probably communication or leisure studies majors.

We aren't paying millions for coaches, facilities and players to win a spelling bee and we certainly aren't going to the sec for its academic prestige.

 

 

 

 

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  On 2/13/2023 at 1:46 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

Pretty much. I think SDSU can be a nice piece…eventually. 
 

I’m happy that all bigger Texas programs will have regular, clear access to the CFP. It’ll prevent a lot of bitching in the legislature. Win your games and you’re in. 

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I can't feel good about the Dickerjames school getting back in the big time.  Much prefer Rice to get that slot.  SMU is the one who deserved to get permanently relegated.

The only good thing they ever did after Doak Walker and Jerry LeVias, was letting Dickerson keep the Gold Trans Am aggy gave him.

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  On 2/12/2023 at 1:27 AM, DFW Horn said:

3+6 will bring in a helluva lot mo' money for the SEC

Expect it to happen

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This.   Those projections circling around $75-100m are based on 9 conference games, which is what the Big Ten does.   OOC match ups provide little to no value to a contract.

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Posted
  On 2/13/2023 at 7:12 PM, PencilPusher said:

If so, think the school should rename/rebrand itself to its more well known moniker “Southern Money University”. 
 

“Here come the Money Mustangs!”

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They could always go the aggy route and state definitively that the "M" no longer stands for anything. Because turdition

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