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29 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

Grand Canyon and UC Davis aren’t playing football in the MWC, they are non-fb members. If you’re including non-fb members you’d need to add ND to ACC, Gonzaga to PAC, and Wichita State to American.

Thanks for catching that. Fixed.

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If I was commissioner of CFP & realignment for a day, I would:

Expand both SEC/ B1G to 24 members split into pods of three...

11 game in conference slate (& 1 crossover game vs SEC/ B1G)...

Expand CFP to 16 teams, keep home games & tie in top bowls...

B1G East:
Northwestern Wildcats
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish
Purdue Boilermakers
Penn State Nittany Lions
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Maryland Terripens
Duke Blue Devils
Miami Hurricanes 

B1G Central:
Iowa Hawkeyes
Minnesota Golden Gophers
Wisconsin Badgers
Illinois Fighting Illini
Indiana Hoosiers
Michigan Wolverines
Michigan State Spartans
Ohio State Buckeyes

B1G West:
Washington Huskies 
Oregon Ducks
Stanford Cardinal
UCLA Bruins
USC Trojans
Arizona Wildcats
Utah Utes
Nebraska Cornhuskers

ACC/ XII/ PAC backfill 16 members each & hold own CFP also...

Season start week of Labor Day for all teams, end in January...

NCAA March Madness stays at 68 team tournament in March...

 

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SEC East:
Virginia Cavaliers
North Carolina Tar Heels
NC State Wolfpack
South Carolina Gamecocks
Clemson Tigers
Georgia Bulldogs
Florida Gators
Florida State Seminoles

SEC Central:
Kentucky Wildcats
Tennessee Volunteers
Vanderbilt Commodores
Alabama Crimson Tide
Auburn Tigers
Ole Miss Rebels
Mississippi State Bulldogs
LSU Tigers

SEC West:
Texas Longhorns
Texas A&M Aggies
Oklahoma Sooners
Arkansas Razorbacks
Missouri Tigers
Kansas Jayhawks
Colorado Buffaloes
Arizona State Sun Devils

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5 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

We'll manage with 4 in the top 10.

Right, but that's all directly due to the playoff, not the regular season schedule with nationwide NBC coverage.

It's more of an anomaly. 

Then again, so is Deion.

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FSU: We're better than everyone, we deserve more money

ACC: What if we give more money to the better programs?

FSU: <shits the bed>

ACC: What if we give you more money simply because of your name even when you bring in less revenue and field a non-competitive team?

FSU: Sounds like a fair and impartial deal. We promise we won't go anywhere. Ignore that last little bit.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43623233/sources-espn-ok-option-televise-acc-sports-36
 

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ESPN has agreed to pick up its option to continue broadcasting ACC sports through 2036, sources told ESPN on Thursday.

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Under the proposed plan, a percentage of the ACC's television revenue would be included in a "brand" fund, and that money would then be distributed to schools that annually generate the most revenue for the conference in football and men's and women's basketball -- with Clemson, Florida State, Miami and North Carolina likely at the top of the pyramid, sources told ESPN.

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The new brand distribution fund would be in addition to the ACC's "success initiatives," which the league approved in 2023.

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Success initiatives went into place this year for the ACC and provide additional revenue to schools that play in the postseason. The brand initiatives would also be accessible to any ACC school, though the biggest names would have a clear leg up. Specific metrics have not been finalized.

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As part of the settlement, Clemson and Florida State are asking the ACC to agree to reduce penalties for exiting the grant of rights after 2031, when TV contracts for the Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 are set to expire.

 

 

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On 1/29/2025 at 3:01 AM, kopp0e said:

If I was commissioner of CFP & realignment for a day, I would:

Expand both SEC/ B1G to 24 members split into pods of three...

11 game in conference slate (& 1 crossover game vs SEC/ B1G)...

Expand CFP to 16 teams, keep home games & tie in top bowls...

B1G East:
Northwestern Wildcats
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish
Purdue Boilermakers
Penn State Nittany Lions
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Maryland Terripens
Duke Blue Devils
Miami Hurricanes 

B1G Central:
Iowa Hawkeyes
Minnesota Golden Gophers
Wisconsin Badgers
Illinois Fighting Illini
Indiana Hoosiers
Michigan Wolverines
Michigan State Spartans
Ohio State Buckeyes

B1G West:
Washington Huskies 
Oregon Ducks
Stanford Cardinal
UCLA Bruins
USC Trojans
Arizona Wildcats
Utah Utes
Nebraska Cornhuskers

ACC/ XII/ PAC backfill 16 members each & hold own CFP also...

Season start week of Labor Day for all teams, end in January...

NCAA March Madness stays at 68 team tournament in March...

 

 

On 1/29/2025 at 3:03 AM, kopp0e said:

SEC East:
Virginia Cavaliers
North Carolina Tar Heels
NC State Wolfpack
South Carolina Gamecocks
Clemson Tigers
Georgia Bulldogs
Florida Gators
Florida State Seminoles

SEC Central:
Kentucky Wildcats
Tennessee Volunteers
Vanderbilt Commodores
Alabama Crimson Tide
Auburn Tigers
Ole Miss Rebels
Mississippi State Bulldogs
LSU Tigers

SEC West:
Texas Longhorns
Texas A&M Aggies
Oklahoma Sooners
Arkansas Razorbacks
Missouri Tigers
Kansas Jayhawks
Colorado Buffaloes
Arizona State Sun Devils

Those mushrooms really hit differently at 3am…

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On 1/28/2025 at 9:30 PM, gatormarc said:

Crazy that Colorado had more big games than Notre Dame.

Other than their 4 playoff games (all top 10), Notre Dame only had 2 others in the top 100.

CU was involved in 2 of the 5 games that were not all P4 matchups, vs. NDSU and Colorado St.  The others were Army-Navy, Notre Dame's loss to NIU and the MWC CCG Boise vs. UNLV.

CU also had the highest regular season game not in a "prime" slot (Saturday 12/4/8 or TG Friday 12/4/8).  That NDSU game was #60.  There were only 3 of those games that made the top 100 and one was Labor Day Monday (BC-FSU).

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4 minutes ago, bullet said:

Other than their 4 playoff games (all top 10), Notre Dame only had 2 others in the top 100.

CU was involved in 2 of the 5 games that were not all P4 matchups, vs. NDSU and Colorado St.  The others were Army-Navy, Notre Dame's loss to NIU and the MWC CCG Boise vs. UNLV.

CU also had the highest regular season game not in a "prime" slot (Saturday 12/4/8 or TG Friday 12/4/8).  That NDSU game was #60.  There were only 3 of those games that made the top 100 and one was Labor Day Monday (BC-FSU).

Apparently ACC's deal extension will force ND to play FSU, Clemson, and Miami more.

 

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TL; DW:

Guy has a source within the B1G and this what he is being told:

  • ESPN is pushing SEC to expand and is working with ACC
  • SEC would add #17 UNC, #18 NCState; possibly #19 FSU and #20 Clemson if they choose to go to 20.
  • ACC and ESPN have already approved whoever the backfill teams are and ESPN would extend the contract (they did)
  • B1G is content to wait until all legal issues are taken care of because they know SEC is getting first pick.
  • B1G will always leave open a spot for Notre Dame no matter what so they will ask them first
  • B1G will look at ratings and matchups if they expand would next consider FSU an Miami.
     
  • B1G and SEC are looking to get 4 guaranteed spots each in the playoff
  • B1G and SEC will agree to a standardized schedule; B1G will drop to 8 or SEC will increase to 9.
  • B1G wants 2 crossover games between the two conferences for each team.

 

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18 hours ago, bullet said:

Other than their 4 playoff games (all top 10), Notre Dame only had 2 others in the top 100.

CU was involved in 2 of the 5 games that were not all P4 matchups, vs. NDSU and Colorado St.  The others were Army-Navy, Notre Dame's loss to NIU and the MWC CCG Boise vs. UNLV.

CU also had the highest regular season game not in a "prime" slot (Saturday 12/4/8 or TG Friday 12/4/8).  That NDSU game was #60.  There were only 3 of those games that made the top 100 and one was Labor Day Monday (BC-FSU).

The log jam of playoff and quasi playoff games really dried out the regular season.  You have games getting over 7 million viewers and not cracking the top 25, according to that list.  

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Big Ten Courts Private Equity Investment, Retains Evercore

 

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2025/big-ten-private-equity-investment-evercore-1234826061/

 

Is there anything that Private Equity doesn't improve??  

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The Big Ten Conference is taking preliminary bids from private equity firms despite past comments from commissioner Tony Petitti questioning the upside of involving institutional capital in college sports.

According to multiple people familiar with the situation, the conference previously retained investment bank Evercore, which solicited a first round of indicative offers from PE firms this week, just before a key deadline in the House v. NCAA antitrust lawsuit that could fundamentally change the economics of intercollegiate athletics.

“To better support its 18 member institutions, the conference is evaluating potential strategic partnerships in order to enhance the conference’s event, sponsorship and other ancillary business endeavors,” a Big Ten spokesperson told Sportico in an email, while declining to provide additional details. A representative from Evercore did not respond to a request for comment.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

Can't wait for Blackrock to buy out the B1G and break them up to sell off the pieces for additional profit.

In a stunning move, the Ohio State university has been sold to the MAC. tOSU will own 75% of the conference plus other considerations. Ohio, Toledo, Kent State, Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green, and Akron are expected to be merged into the school as satellite campuses and all 8-10 range women are expected to be pressed into service for the glorious dictator's tOSU buckeye recruiting team. Eastern, Western, and Central Michigan are expected to be demolished and cast into lake superior. When asked why they could not be spun off to maximize value, new MAC commissioner Urban Meyer declared that there is nothing valuable in Michigan.  

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15 hours ago, Vertigo said:

In a stunning move, the Ohio State university has been sold to the MAC. tOSU will own 75% of the conference plus other considerations. Ohio, Toledo, Kent State, Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green, and Akron are expected to be merged into the school as satellite campuses and all 8-10 range women are expected to be pressed into service for the glorious dictator's tOSU buckeye recruiting team. Eastern, Western, and Central Michigan are expected to be demolished and cast into lake superior. When asked why they could not be spun off to maximize value, new MAC commissioner Urban Meyer declared that there is nothing valuable in Michigan.  

Schools that need to merge.

 

Toledo-Bowling Green

Duke-Wake Forest

Washington State-Gonzaga.

 

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On 1/31/2025 at 10:22 AM, utee94 said:

Big Ten Courts Private Equity Investment, Retains Evercore

 

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2025/big-ten-private-equity-investment-evercore-1234826061/

 

Is there anything that Private Equity doesn't improve??  

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The Big Ten Conference is taking preliminary bids from private equity firms despite past comments from commissioner Tony Petitti questioning the upside of involving institutional capital in college sports.

According to multiple people familiar with the situation, the conference previously retained investment bank Evercore, which solicited a first round of indicative offers from PE firms this week, just before a key deadline in the House v. NCAA antitrust lawsuit that could fundamentally change the economics of intercollegiate athletics.

“To better support its 18 member institutions, the conference is evaluating potential strategic partnerships in order to enhance the conference’s event, sponsorship and other ancillary business endeavors,” a Big Ten spokesperson told Sportico in an email, while declining to provide additional details. A representative from Evercore did not respond to a request for comment.

 

 

If its like IMG and taking over conference tournaments (basketball, baseball, softball, tennis, etc.), I can see it.  I can't see it being a good thing beyond that.

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On 1/30/2025 at 12:17 PM, gatormarc said:

TL; DW:

Guy has a source within the B1G and this what he is being told:

  • ESPN is pushing SEC to expand and is working with ACC
  • SEC would add #17 UNC, #18 NCState; possibly #19 FSU and #20 Clemson if they choose to go to 20.
  • ACC and ESPN have already approved whoever the backfill teams are and ESPN would extend the contract (they did)
  • B1G is content to wait until all legal issues are taken care of because they know SEC is getting first pick.
  • B1G will always leave open a spot for Notre Dame no matter what so they will ask them first
  • B1G will look at ratings and matchups if they expand would next consider FSU an Miami.
     
  • B1G and SEC are looking to get 4 guaranteed spots each in the playoff
  • B1G and SEC will agree to a standardized schedule; B1G will drop to 8 or SEC will increase to 9.
  • B1G wants 2 crossover games between the two conferences for each team.

 

I have my doubts about this list.

Most watched ACC teams from last year?  Miami number 1; Georgia Tech number 3.   UNC was way down the list.  There are 5 FBS schools in NC dividing the viewership.  The historic ties of the NC schools to the ACC will be hard to break.  

247 reported at the ACC meetings in 2022 that the school the Big 10 was talking to was Georgia Tech, which surprised everyone.  But being an AAU school matters to the Big 10.  Miami is also an AAU school.  Clemson and FSU are not.  Miami and Georgia Tech are in major TV markets that are also hotbeds for recruiting. There are huge numbers of Big Ten alumni in metro Atlanta. 

I could see Clemson and FSU in the SEC, although they would be dumb to do so in my opinion.  Clemson would have never gotten in the playoff this year as an SEC school.  They didn't beat South Carolina.

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1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

lol.  Yea no.  Football aint modeling anything after soccer

It wouldn't be modeled after soccer.  It would be model separate from the NCAA in coordination with the NFL that is not all 134 division one schools.  Maybe it never happens, but it definitely seems like we are moving in that direction to me.

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14 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Rumor of Big East/ACC merger and/or partnership agreement…

https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/big-east-commissioner-acc-merger.html

 

14 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

Well, that's fucking stupid.

 

5 hours ago, &#x27;stache said:

Damn what year is this, is it 1985 again?

FYP.  If the conferences had got out ahead and made Big East basketball and Atlantic Coast football then they would be as strong as the other two. 

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On 2/23/2025 at 11:51 AM, Texas Wahoo said:

Interesting item about men’s soccer that could be implemented in football. 
 

https://x.com/redditcfb/status/1893715670564573522?s=46&t=eJHk9B0xfuP0VGyqKCxp-g

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8 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

lol.  Yea no.  Football aint modeling anything after soccer

Not a model for football but should a consideration for all non football sports. Maybe even align each sport differently. UCLA v Rutgers in softball is dumb as hell. At least football has a financial justification.

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IMO - within 5-7 years there will be a CFB League of ~48 teams, in order to keep it divided into four quadrants/conferences.

TV will dictate who gets to participate $$$ wise in this new league, as well as those that have money backing their program. So Texas Tech, SMU, and aggy might get involved for Texas schools besides the Flagship.

It’ll be structured regionally as best as possible similar to the NFL and playoff systems almost a mirror image. This will be a football only league, separate from the NCAA, with their own leadership/rules. Spring sports and others will stay within their regular conferences and under the NCAA. Notre Dame will no longer worry about having to be independent.

Hook’em!!!

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44093338/sources-fsu-clemson-expected-reach-settlement-acc

FSU/Clemson/ACC settlement near.

 

"The ACC board of directors is scheduled to hold a call Tuesday to go over the settlement terms. In addition, Florida State has called a board meeting to present the terms at noon ET Tuesday, and Clemson plans to do the same. All three boards must agree to the settlement for it to move forward, but sources throughout the league expect a deal to be reached.

According to sources, the settlement includes two key objectives: establishing a new revenue-distribution model based on viewership and a change in the financial penalties for exiting the league's grant of rights before its conclusion in June 2036....

 

Although the settlement will not make substantive changes to the grant of rights, it is expected that there will be declining financial penalties for schools that exit before 2036, with the steepest decreases coming after 2030 -- something that would apply to any ACC school, not just Clemson and Florida State.

The specific financial figures for schools to get released from the grant of rights were not readily available. But the total cost to exit the league after the 2029-30 season is expected to drop below $100 million, sources said...."

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On 3/1/2025 at 7:48 PM, TKthunder2 said:

https://www.abqjournal.com/sports/article_33e58b30-f63e-11ef-bce1-1fc013f19698.html
 

MWC mediation merger? Probably not but interesting…

Feel like if there was ever a chance for a MWC - PAC12 merger in this round of realignment it would have already happened, on the face without thinking about the money side it just made too much sense not to do originally. Schools that jumped from the MWC to PAC did so for a reason: to get away from MWC schools that they saw as not being committed to a higher-level of athletics (dead weight) and were cruising off of the money that the schools who left were bringing into the MWC. Until something changes with that (or there is some calamity with PAC12 TV deal negotiations, and they end up exactly back where they were with the MWC) just see no way the schools who left the PAC would ever agree to a reverse merger. 

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10 hours ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Feel like if there was ever a chance for a MWC - PAC12 merger in this round of realignment it would have already happened, on the face without thinking about the money side it just made too much sense not to do originally. Schools that jumped from the MWC to PAC did so for a reason: to get away from MWC schools that they saw as not being committed to a higher-level of athletics (dead weight) and were cruising off of the money that the schools who left were bringing into the MWC. Until something changes with that (or there is some calamity with PAC12 TV deal negotiations, and they end up exactly back where they were with the MWC) just see no way the schools who left the PAC would ever agree to a reverse merger. 

Mwc cut a big check to unlv and air force to stay. UNLV really needed the money because they are broke. That guaranteed the leaving members didn't have the votes to just dissolve the conference. I'd really like unlv, Wyoming and new Mexico to be in the PAC whatever. That's a great regional conference with a lot of long time rivalries and a relatively small footprint. Afa could go to the American with army and navy. 

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On 1/30/2025 at 9:13 AM, TKthunder2 said:

 

Those mushrooms really hit differently at 3am…

Well mushrooms on an old pizza, but r am I just “Nostradumass” (joke)…

ACC buyout, at $165 million & dropping annually, anything can happen…

I look for SEC to add North Carolina/ NC State/ Clemson/ Florida State…

And B1G adds Miami/ Georgia Tech & both leagues reach 20 by 2026…

This could happen  in time for new CFP expansion to 16 team bracket…

XII might possibly lose a team or two by 2031 as SEC & B1G go to 24…

Then between the 2 leagues both play a 9 game conference slate eh..?

As well as 1 (or 2) annual cross-division non-conference games also…

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On 2/28/2025 at 8:34 AM, msucolt45 said:

IMO - within 5-7 years there will be a CFB League of ~48 teams, in order to keep it divided into four quadrants/conferences.

TV will dictate who gets to participate $$$ wise in this new league, as well as those that have money backing their program. So Texas Tech, SMU, and aggy might get involved for Texas schools besides the Flagship.

It’ll be structured regionally as best as possible similar to the NFL and playoff systems almost a mirror image. This will be a football only league, separate from the NCAA, with their own leadership/rules. Spring sports and others will stay within their regular conferences and under the NCAA. Notre Dame will no longer worry about having to be independent.

Hook’em!!!

I said similar & got blamed for mushroom breath..? Haha, no this seems logical…

Ironically, at two conferences of 24, we may see regional divisions once again..?

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In 5-7 years the “leeches” of conferences will be cast away. It’ll be a League (for CFB) of the haves. Those not cracking the “~48” can survive with the others under the NCAA. Football only will separate from the other sports. TV $$$ will dictate this.

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