Realignment talk not going away

[NTVTXN 1435]

44 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

That’s one ugly ass track suit.

[Francisco 2.0 32542]

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[ChiTownDoc 21323]

2 minutes ago, Prime said:

Big bad Texas just dragging poor OU along. 
 

 

Because OU is confident enough to make their own decisions - and if the best option is joining your biggest rival, they don’t have some inferiority complex that precludes them from making that decision.  
 

This isn’t hard Mandel (said his wife).  

[TexasMan 11383]

 

[closetohumping 17776]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Do you want Texas to have a powerhouse football program again? Then the Pac 12 would've been a disastrous decision. They don't GAF about football out there. The conference is borderline irrelevant in every sport that matters to us. But, yay, we'd get road trips to California! Personally, I'd rather see games in Athens, Oxford, Knoxville, Tuscaloosa, etc.

I live in California so the Pac 12 would've been great for me.  But recruiting as a Pac 12 school while ou and aggy are in the SEC?  Good luck.

[SydneyCarton 49323]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

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Hey bud, just a friendly heads up. You're about one hour behind on these tweets, which means you're about 4 pages behind in real time. 

[closetohumping 17776]

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Because OU is confident enough to make their own decisions - and if the best option is joining your biggest rival, they don’t have some inferiority complex that precludes them from making that decision.  
 

This isn’t hard Mandel (said his wife).  

We're just better together and need each other.  I suspect our leaders look at it as a partnership rather than who's the alpha in this arrangement?  We both got the end goal we desired. Like tosu and UM may hate each other but if they were faced with this situation, they'd act together.

[Valmy77 13567]

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Because OU is confident enough to make their own decisions - and if the best option is joining your biggest rival, they don’t have some inferiority complex that precludes them from making that decision.  
 

This isn’t hard Mandel (said his wife).  

OU has been complaining about the Big 12 for years and they just got into it with the Commissioner over their time slots for their games.

I don't understand why Mandel might not consider they might be driving the bus on this.

[PittsburghTiger 6318]

37 minutes ago, bejezuz said:

It's like they've never met a Vandy grad.  Vanderbilt alums look down at SMU and Baylor alums like they dropped out of Prairie View.  The only non-Ivy alums I've met that are worse are Rice grads.  

One of my dad's partners at the hospital was a Jewish fellow from suburban Philly. All of us kids of the three partners went to the same public high school and were all in the same 10-year age group. One day, my dad, me, dad's partner and his wife were at the Allegheny Club inside Three Rivers Stadium eating brunch before a Steelers game. The wife started talking about how their oldest boy decided on Vanderbilt, "the Harvard of the South", to which my smart ass replies with an Ivy League Thurston Howell III accent, "why didn't he go to the Harvard of the North?".

My dad hit me.

Edited July 23, 2021 by PittsburghTiger

[ChiTownDoc 21323]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Holy shit! Outed on the interwebs Doc.  Are you "that splinter dick inbred from Chicago?"

Hey man, I don’t have a splinter dick.  

[Don Johnson 4802]

Probably discussed in the previous 50 pages, but how much do you think the pandemic played into this?  Texas has always know the Big 12 wasn't going to be forever.  A year ago, the Big 10 and Pac 12 had to seem like legit options, with the SEC kind of on the outside.  

Then Covid hits, and the Pac 12 and Big 10 look like monkeys fucking a football.  No leadership.  Wishy washy.  Cost their programs millions.  Meanwhile the SEC leads the way, comes up with a plan that works, executes it, plays almost every game.  

Its hard to have any confidence in the leadership of the Pac 12 and Big 10 after the past year.

[Valmy77 13567]

Just now, closetohumping said:

We're just better together and need each other.  I suspect our leaders look at it as a partnership rather than who's the alpha in this arrangement?  We both got the end goal we desired. Like tosu and UM may hate each other but if they were faced with this situation, they'd act together.

Yeah if either of us wanted to leave the other was bound to go along with it. It wasn't like we could stay in the Big 12 without OU.

[maninblack 7975]

As we learn more information my confidence in the other schools and the SEC leadership is growing significantly.

After 10 years of A&M doing everything they could to ingratiate themselves to the SEC, the leadership of both the SEC and any schools that were involved still understood that the only thing larger than A&M's self importance was their stupidity and kept them in the dark. 

Bravo

[Mo Horn 8933]

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Texas and Oklahoma could make their move to the SEC official in a matter of weeks, ESPN has confirmed.

The Austin American-Statesman reported Friday that a Big 12 source believed talks between the SEC and the two schools had been ongoing for more than six months, though Texas A&M had been left out of the discussions. An SEC source told ESPN's Heather Dinich that it's inaccurate that A&M was left out of the conversation.

The report also said the move could become official in a matter of weeks. A high level administrator said his understanding of the situation mirrors that timeline.

Excerpt from an ESPN story

[Valmy77 13567]

1 minute ago, Don Johnson said:

Probably discussed in the previous 50 pages, but how much do you think the pandemic played into this?  Texas has always know the Big 12 wasn't going to be forever.  A year ago, the Big 10 and Pac 12 had to seem like legit options, with the SEC kind of on the outside.  

Then Covid hits, and the Pac 12 and Big 10 look like monkeys fucking a football.  No leadership.  Wishy washy.  Cost their programs millions.  Meanwhile the SEC leads the way, comes up with a plan that works, executes it, plays almost every game.  

Its hard to have any confidence in the leadership of the Pac 12 and Big 10 after the past year.

I seriously doubt that the Big 10 or PAC 12 were ever serious options for reasons I have discussed endlessly on this board. Neither provide the recruiting boost either school wants and neither provides more money. Going to the SEC or staying in the Big 12 were the best options.

Edited July 23, 2021 by Valmy77

[MIkeHoncho 1999]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

OU guy

unfortunately, I see a lot of truth here.  Not entirely sure we are "blaming the Big 12" for our lack of success, but perception of it isn't helping.  Chuck, Mensa, and Patterson are 95% of the blame - i.e. we fucked ourselves.  Seems under CDC and Hartzel we have decided to no longer do so. 

 

[Smax 3800]

1 hour ago, Randolph Duke said:

This is the best part so far. Knowing what whining, petulant shitheads aggys are, the S!E!C! powers simply excluded them from the entire discussion for SIX MONTHS! and merrily whistled past them, not telling them a damned thing.

I think that shows how aggys is looked at among those conference administrators.

 

No idea if true but reads like the typical kurk troll click bait tweet

[Mitch Cumsteen 18913]

The official university announcement of this move needs to come out in a tweet that ends with, "Please respect my decision."
 

[texifornia 58780]

 

[936horn 942]

12 minutes ago, Prime said:

Big bad Texas just dragging poor OU along. 
 

 

shut the fuck up, Stewie

[Valmy77 13567]

3 minutes ago, MIkeHoncho said:

unfortunately, I see a lot of truth here.  Not entirely sure we are "blaming the Big 12" for our lack of success, but perception of it isn't helping.  Chuck, Mensa, and Patterson are 95% of the blame - i.e. we fucked ourselves.  Seems under CDC and Hartzel we have decided to no longer do so. 

 

I don't think winning football has anything directly to do with this. This is entirely about money. But us sucking certainly hurt the value of the Big 12 so there is a roll to play there. If Chuck and Herman were winning big the Big 12 would be in much better financial position. I bet that this move was a result of looking at the prospects for continuing to keep up with the SEC and Big 10 on a per school financial basis and seeing that the future prospects after 2025 were not good.

But I also challenge the idea that OU was doing great competitively and did not feel that the Big 12 was not pulling them down...mostly because they have been bitching endlessly about just that for years.

Edited July 23, 2021 by Valmy77

[Eastwood 4394]

4 minutes ago, Prime said:

Big bad Texas just dragging poor OU along. 
 

 

This is a classic example of why your average college football fan gets so bent out of shape about anything business related even glancing off of their beloved sport. In their little corner of the world it's all amateurism, school pride, honor, and tradition. I get it. You guys get it. We were all in that boat a decade ago. But you can't stop progress. The college football landscape, since the BCS era and maybe even before, has been money, school pride, money, and money. You can either wail, gnash your teeth, and wax poetic about years past or you can survey the landscape and realize that the times aren't just changing; they've changed. A&M thought they were brought into the SEC because of culture, tradition, and hard-nosed football. They had an inkling that money played a role, but failed to grasp the changing landscape around them.

It's well beyond reading the tea leaves, at this point. A&M was staring into their cup while a whole Starbucks was built around them.

[UncleBuck 6455]

4 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Excerpt from an ESPN story

I still hold back on any news that is crediting the Statesman with its information, but cool ESPN is sharing it.

[The Dude 1257]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

I don't think winning football has anything to do with this. This is entirely about money. But us sucking certainly hurt the value of the Big 12 so there is a roll to play there. If Chuck and Herman were winning big the Big 12 would be in much better financial position.

But I also challenge the idea that OU was doing great competitively and did not feel that the Big 12 was not pulling them down...mostly because they have been bitching endlessly about just that for years.

I don’t think it’s entirely about money

 

its about leveling the recruiting advantages the SEC has that has been amplified by the NIL ruling. Texas saw this as necessary to keep pace and protect its National brand. And I think OU agreees

[FunkSoulBrother 966]

6 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Hey man, I don’t have a splinter dick.  

We Chicago representing 

[South Austin 53153]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

 

Yeah, Alabama is sure to go along with that one.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

37 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I don't think he understands what a governor does

Makes my car go slower

[Valmy77 13567]

37 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I don't think he understands what a governor does

He wants to spin a good vs evil narrative. What he does or does not understand is not really relevant. 

[Zhorn96 1833]

16 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I got quite a few buddies that went to Wazzu.  It's next to the Tri Cities, which compared to Lubbock, you know what, nevermind.

Tri Cities is pretty nice.  140-150 miles away from Pullman, give or take, but ok.

[Valmy77 13567]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

I don’t think it’s entirely about money

 

its about leveling the recruiting advantages the SEC has that has been amplified by the NIL ruling. Texas saw this as necessary to keep pace and protect its National brand. And I think OU agreees

Granted, which isn't entirely not about money. 

[ousux 5635]

That’s one ugly ass track suit.

Very fitting for the Slovenia/Albania of Texas

[Francisco 2.0 32542]

Hey bud, just a friendly heads up. You're about one hour behind on these tweets, which means you're about 4 pages behind in real time. 

Mea culpa. Half hungover and glancing through this thread and I miss shit. Plus Tapatalk.


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[Daichee Bell 3062]

1 hour ago, Randolph Duke said:

“If would be shocked if this is true. A&M would probably sue the **** out of the conference if something this massive was kept in the dark on purpose”

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3211187/2#discussion

Their shit is falling apart. They distrust their SEC idol. They think Bohls is a Texas mouthpiece. Conspiracies everywhere. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by Daichee Bell

[GTX Horn 1725]

3 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

“Makes sense regionally” to not have the two Texas programs in the SEC that are just 2 hours apart in the same pod? They scared

[Valmy77 13567]

1 minute ago, GTX Horn said:

“Makes sense regionally” to not have the two Texas programs in the SEC that are just 2 hours apart in the same pod? They scared

Arkansas, OU, Texas, and A&M make the most sense regionally. But this is a conference that put Missouri in the East so who knows?

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

7 minutes ago, MIkeHoncho said:

unfortunately, I see a lot of truth here.  Not entirely sure we are "blaming the Big 12" for our lack of success, but perception of it isn't helping.  Chuck, Mensa, and Patterson are 95% of the blame - i.e. we fucked ourselves.  Seems under CDC and Hartzel we have decided to no longer do so. 

 

I've never blamed the Big 12 for our lack of success since we never win it anyway.  I do blame it for my relative lack of interest in the majority of conference games we're not playing.  And for making me watch that commercial where Kliff Kingsbury morphs into Charlie Weis.

[Post Oak 20550]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

 

 

[Longboard Horn 41316]

If these are the potential divisions, would Florida and Georgia try to block? 

 

[Bevo 13820]

20 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I got quite a few buddies that went to Wazzu.  It's next to the Tri Cities, which compared to Lubbock, you know what, nevermind.

It isn't even that close to the Tri-cities. Kennewick to Pullman is more than a 2hr. drive. Spokane is an hour closer.

[Hurtlocker 2219]

24 minutes ago, Nivek said:

If we do make the jump we should put up a sec logo on the field that is 2x the size of aggy for the first year. And see if they take the bait to make their whole field an sec logo.

If this goes through I would bet they would SEC a lot less

[texifornia 58780]

2 minutes ago, ousux said:

17 minutes ago, NTVTXN said:

That’s one ugly ass track suit.

Very fitting for the Slovenia/Albania of Texas

That is very harsh on Slovenia and Albania

Spoiler

 

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[Pam Cummings 9823]

DP show citing Bohls' tweet and calling him an "insider". I made sure to get on their chat row and tell everyone what a dumbass Kurt really is.

[Valmy77 13567]

1 minute ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I've never blamed the Big 12 for our lack of success since we never win it anyway.  I do blame it for my relative lack of interest in the majority of conference games we're not playing.  And for making me watch that commercial where Kliff Kingsbury morphs into Charlie Weis.

As somebody who always tried to sell people on why the Big 12 was best for Texas it was an endless frustration that I kept saying that we would be excellently set up for the playoff when the win the conference and that we can do so consistently. But since that never happened I never got to see if my theory was actually true or ever be vindicated. 

[TKthunder2 5058]

50 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

So how much work is everyone getting today?

Zero, Zilch, Nadda 

[BrazilHorn 6789]

18 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Because OU is confident enough to make their own decisions - and if the best option is joining your biggest rival, they don’t have some inferiority complex that precludes them from making that decision.  
 

This isn’t hard Mandel (said his wife).  

Mandel is such a click bait dipshit.

[Pam Cummings 9823]

Now Kurt is actually on DP show. Saying he got a tip last Friday.

[IDIOTsavant 8673]

Let's call a spade a spade. The NIL ruling neutered the NCAA. Leagues are free to do whatever the hell they want, which means water is most definitely going to find its level. For the most part, this means everyone will be reacting to what the SEC does. If we want to have any influence over how this shakes out, we have to be in the room. All of the rest of it is a byproduct of this simple fact.

[Longhornlove 5134]

In response to that tweet about OU making their own way........that is funny. OU is perpetually tied to Texas. If it wasn't for the state of Texas, OU couldn't field a competitive football team.

[40acredropout 2908]

I'm thinking about how this fits in with the new SEC/ESPN deal.

ESPN bought 10 years of exclusive rights to SEC football/basketball for $3B (CBS no longer gets their weekly pick of the litter).  That deal was finalized December 2020.  

Seeing that discussions started with the SEC ~6 months ago, was Texas/OU joining part of the calculus?  If not, does the deal get restructured now (seems like SEC has a pretty good case), sending more money back to the SEC schools?

This is such a fucking home run for ESPN.  Not sure exactly how it gets wrapped up, but (to some extent) wash your hands of your $15M/yr (plus operating costs) LHN obligation, and then add Texas and OU who each will provide you 3-4 more marquee matchups per year.  Texas v LSU pulled 8.4M viewers which (I believe) would have been second most watched SEC game in last two seasons.  Feels like they got a taste of what could be and went out and made it happen.