Realignment talk not going away

[Js1 85,104]

1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

At what point do "conferences" just become full-on leagues? 20 seems like too many, kinda dumb.

20 is dumb. Merging with the 8 left behind isn’t adding what the PAC-12 needs to grow eyeballs to make a 20-way split worthwhile. 

[HtownHorn 14,485]

3 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

yeah, this could be the SEC pulling a Vince McMahon move and trying to make the SEC its own independent national league.

back in the day, pro wrestling used to be ruled by territories.  each promotion ruled its own region and didn't encroach on others.  all the big areas had their own little fiefdoms - Dallas, Houston, Georgia, Florida, Mid-Atlantic, Minneapolis, New York, etc.  kinda like conferences in college football.

but then Vince McMahon said fuck it, i want the New York territory - the WWF - to be a national brand.  and he set out to destroy the territories by taking over their tv time slots and staging events in those regions and stealing their biggest stars.  and he succeeded.  it was just the WWF and WCW for a while, then Vince took that over.  now pro wrestling is the WWE and a few minor leagues.

the SEC is in a position to do the same and to make the other conferences damn near obsolete.  it's 16 teams now.  but the SEC could eventually take Clemson and FSU and UNC and ND from the ACC.  and at some point, the SEC could make an arrangement with certain Big 12 and PAC 12 schools to set up a super league.  all with the SEC/ESPN/Disney calling the shots.

the college football landscape is going to be completely different in 10 years.

Who better than Texas to help lead the charge with the Undertaker and Mark Henry among our friends of the program.

[South Austin 52,144]

12 minutes ago, Droopy said:

@immamac we really need a yawn emoji.

That should bring Rocko back into the fold.

[ztejas 43,263]

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

Yeah, it's not a Texas school, but if programs like Kansas start making the preemptive move out of the conference, it's just another nail in the coffin for the Big 12 and our move to the SEC. 

A funny side story in all of this is that it's seeming like Kansas is the 3rd most sought after brand in the B12.

[Texasrocks 2,124]

53 minutes ago, shakahorn said:

Aggy has, and will continue to aggy this up.  Their first response should have been something like "we have heard the rumors and will monitor the situation and ultimately do what is best for Texas A&M University."  Instead, it was "waaah waaaah we don't want tu."

When it comes to the vote, they should follow along and make it 14-0, and say something like "we are acting in the collective best interests of the SEC and TAMU."  Instead, it will be "we vote 'no' even though our vote doesn't make a difference because those sips don't deserve our support."
 

Are you suggesting that A&M is willing to embarrass themselves to claim moral victory? Because that would... be totally consistent with their entire existence.

[Red Five 40,655]

14 minutes ago, mdmost said:

He really is just a fucking moron

 

At this point I'm seriously wondering if there is something wrong with him. 

[Js1 85,104]

Just now, ztejas said:

A funny side story in all of this is that it's seeming like Kansas is the 3rd most sought after brand in the B12.

KU bball is prestigious. It’s totally worth them sucking in football 

[Zeus 5,950]

17 minutes ago, TexasBeta said:

I have zero interest in playing the likes of Lamar. We are Texas. We don’t play Lamar or prairie view atm or anybody like that. I saw during the traditional patsy week in the SEC we schedule tOSU or USC or ND.

HOOT HOOT

[NIUHuskies 504]

13 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

What the fuck Kurt?

 

Does he know about the World's Largest Cocktail Party? Also, I Tennessee has played Arky in Memphis before?

[South Austin 52,144]

12 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

I literally can't think of a less intriguing thing

*fewer

[ousux 5,587]

I can't keep up with the thread, likely the 83rd person to post this:

Texas and Oklahoma, the founding members of the Big 12, are leaving the league - and barring any unforeseen developments, will join the Southeastern Conference, a high-level source close to the situation told Horns247.
Texas and OU officials plan to inform the Big 12 on Monday that they won’t renew when the league’s grant of rights expire in 2025, a step that clears the path for the SEC to formally consider adding Texas and OU.
Again, barring unforeseen circumstances, an SEC vote on adding Texas and Oklahoma "could move quickly," the source told Horns247.
“In this changing landscape of college athletics, this is what’s best (for Texas and Oklahoma),” the source said.
Horns247 reported previously that Texas and Oklahoma are prepared to wait until the current grant of rights agreement expires in 2025 before moving on from the Big 12.
To leave earlier, Texas and OU would be contractually bound to give up their four remaining years of Big 12 television revenue, which would total nearly $160 million each (based on 2019's $37.7 million payout per school) - although such situations in the past have been settled in court to allow both sides to move on.
Even the anticipation of Texas and Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 for the SEC has set off a seismic reaction that will reshape college athletics for years to come. Whether it results in more schools jumping conferences or Power Five members finally breaking away from the NCAA in football to form their own governing body remains to be seen.
Texas and Oklahoma were the founding members of the Big 12 back in the mid-1990s, when the Big Eight (OU, Oklahoma State, Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State) and four schools from the Southwest Conference (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor) came together under the leadership of then-Texas and OU athletic directors DeLoss Dodds and Donnie Duncan.
Following a call among Big 12 athletic directors and CEOs on Thursday night - a call that Texas and Oklahoma didn’t participate in - the league released a statement that sounded like a breakup letter.
“Oklahoma and Texas are founding members of the Big 12 and we value their traditions and history of success,” the league said in a statement. “The eight members strongly desire to retain the current composition, which has proven it can compete at the highest levels.
“There is a recognition that institutions may act in their own self-interest, however there is an expectation that members adhere to Conference bylaws and the enforcement of Grant of Rights agreements.
“This is a time of dramatic change within intercollegiate athletics that presents both opportunities and challenges, and the Big 12 Conference looks forward to continuing to play a major role in its evolution.”
One industry source said Texas and Oklahoma could go independent and do an exclusive broadcast agreement with a partner like Fox, and create schedules full of Big Ten and Pac-12 opponents, because Fox already has media rights agreements with the Big Ten and Pac-12.
“Fox could probably put up some big numbers to make that kind of a deal really worth Texas and Oklahoma’s while,” the source said.
A year ago, when discussions in the Big 12 started turning to re-negotiating the league’s media rights package ahead of its current 2025 expiration date, Texas officials wanted to see if they could do better - especially with a rapidly changing college athletics landscape.
With student-athletes able to earn money from their name, image and likeness for the first time and the College Football Playoff likely expanding to 12 teams, there’s a sense even more change could be coming to college athletics - whether it’s new streaming partners bidding on broadcast rights or the top 60 or 64 schools breaking away from the NCAA to form their own governing body.
Amidst all of that, Texas officials wanted to make sure they were in the best spot to maximize their brand/position in a changing landscape and felt like it was the SEC.
Texas officials began conversations with Oklahoma brass a year ago - and six months ago those conversations culminated with intermediaries reaching out to officials in the Southeastern Conference about the possibility of Texas and OU joining the SEC, sources told Horns247.
“There is mutual interest on both sides,” a high-ranking source close to the situation told Horns247 regarding the SEC.
If Texas becomes SEC-bound, UT officials would be willing to let go of the more than $150 million still remaining on their 20-year, $300 million contract with ESPN for the Longhorn Network, which currently runs through 2031, sources told Horns247.
“There’d be more money down the road,” one source close to the situation said.
Critics of Texas and OU leaving the Big 12 are now working feverishly to slow things down.
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State Rep. Jeff Leach of Plano, a Baylor graduate, announced on social media Thursday he’ll be filing a bill “requiring legislative approval for UT to bolt the BIG XII.”
“The lack of transparency by our flagship institution is wrong,” Leach said on Twitter. “Such a monumental economic and educational decision impacting the entire state must not be made in a bubble on the forty acres.”
Texas Tech System chancellor Tedd L. Mitchell said on social media following Thursday night’s Big 12 call:
“Like many across our state and within the footprint of our league, I’ve been extremely disappointed by the actions and intentions of our friends in Austin and Norman. From day one of the Big 12 Conference’s existence, Texas Tech has been a proud and trustworthy partner.
“As the landscape of collegiate athletics shifts, I can promise Red Raider Nation that our leadership will diligently pursue all options to best position Texas Tech for long-term success.”

 
From that article..

"Horns247 reported previously that Texas and Oklahoma are prepared to wait until the current grant of rights agreement expires in 2025 before moving on from the Big 12.
To leave earlier, Texas and OU would be contractually bound to give up their four remaining years of Big 12 television revenue, which would total nearly $160 million each (based on 2019's $37.7 million payout per school)"

aggy may have failed in their desperation attempt, but they did succeed in speeding up the timeline. There is no fucking way us and BlowU stay in the Big12 3 more seasons after this one...we'll both go independent for 3 years if needed to finish out the tv nonsense. We already get hosed by big12 zebras on the regular, I can only imagine they're feverishly working on how to make '15 pokes game seem like a evenly called game by comparison.

[Js1 85,104]

1 minute ago, NIUHuskies said:

Does he know about the World's Largest Cocktail Party? Also, I Tennessee has played Arky in Memphis before?

Arky-aggy is in jerryworld too. 

[mdmost 42,860]

1 minute ago, NIUHuskies said:

Does he know about the World's Largest Cocktail Party? Also, I Tennessee has played Arky in Memphis before?

Aggy and Arkansas have always played in JerryWorld. Like aggy, he's just flailing now. 

[Newy25 7,638]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Mandel is such a dumbass.  Yea I admit we've sucked the last decade at football, sucked fucking hard.  But does anybody believe that just continues in perpetuity forever and ever and ever?  You don't buy past results, you buy future value you dipshit.  And it's not like this is about the results on the field anyway it's about where the future of the business side of the sports, all sports is headed.

Fuck there is part of me that could see in the next 50 years sports not even being aligned by region/city/school anymore.  It will be by company or something stupid like online services.  Today Tom Brady III leads the Twitch Couch Slugs into action against the Google Alphabet Warriors.  Brady, the grandson of former New England Patriots legend Tom Brady had an impressive debut last week when he threw for 490 yards in the 4th quarter to come back and defeat the Amazon Cock Rockets

 

Im still waiting for the hundreds and thousands of myocarditis cases to over take college football players. 

[Texasrocks 2,124]

22 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Man, is K-State fucked?

On the bright side, they can now recruit JUCO players right out of high school and skip the middle man.

[closetohumping 17,400]

@Helobious you think we might get in somehow?

[mvlonghorns 285]

Hmmm will Texas and OU continue one of the best traditions in College Football that everyone likes now that they are still in the same conference, or not? I really wonder what the fucking answer to that question is.

[Hagbard Celine 10,757]

18 minutes ago, mdmost said:

He really is just a fucking moron

it's official.  kurt bowels wrote the runbook for the city of austin water department.

[Zeus 5,950]

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

 

ONLY $70 to ditch the shit12?

What the fuck is taking so long?

PS

It's already a done deal, the leak came out once aggy found out and they are pissed. The only route they (think) they have is through legislature getting involved.

Hilarious 

[Chopper 17,154]

What would be a good over/under on how big of a contract aggy gives Accenture to come up with a new image, now that "only sec sec team in texas" is dust? $15m?

[SquishMitten 10,400]

 

21 minutes ago, UTDD said:

This is the best chance for aggy to go 14-0 and claim an undefeated record somehow, but they will blow this and go 13-1.  

This could go in the "Trivial Things That Annoy You" thread, but it's not 13-1. That would imply they won. The correct way to state this would be 1-13.

[South Austin 52,144]

52 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

It could be raining pussy and aggie would get hit with a dick.

Put an SEC logo with this on a t-shirt and I'm buying.

[Burt Macklin 18,998]

 

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

PAC is happy AS fuck now with an auto bid to the playoffs now that big12 wont have a representative

lol wut. The PAC would not get an auto bid. It would be tOSU, Clemson, and two from the SEC every year, unless a PAC school went undefeated. 

55 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The calculus changes for grabbing BYU if the B1G, ACC and Pac-12 all decide to go 16.

Again, if you're going to add mouths to the table, you gotta get a bigger pie.

BYU has a national fanbase, which = eyeballs = money.  TCU isn't going to give them the Dallas market and isn't going to add more eyeballs.  BYU is pumping out 3x the alumni of TCU, and BYU's alumni are spread out. 

People, stop it with this nonsense. BYU has a worse shot of getting into the PAC than Liberty and San Angelo State. 

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

A funny side story in all of this is that it's seeming like Kansas is the 3rd most sought after brand in the B12.

That’s always been pretty obvious. Basketball blue blood with solid academics and a large alumni base. 

[SquishMitten 10,400]

22 minutes ago, mdmost said:

He really is just a fucking moron

 

What the fuck does this even mean? Does he think the Big 12, rather than the City of Dallas, owns the Cotton Bowl?

[Acropora 856]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

 

Lol, that is a perfect beta cuck move for the fighting Texas jimbos

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

I did it!  I'm famous!!!!!!!!

Something, something, your mom

1 hour ago, MAUFRAIS said:

Aggy should abstain so the vote is 13-0 and then we can then brand it on their dog.

Gold.  

['stache 21,772]

14 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

 

 

 

I proposed something earlier, but 18 leaving out WVU for geography and BU for rape. If KU and ISU go BIG, it works out at 16.

(pic taken from another board)

 

[jimmyjazz 45,555]

I have never understood why people seem to think non-blueblood small schools pull significant TV viewership just because they're located in a large metropolitan area.

There are true fans of college football, people who will watch the best game on in any particular time slot that doesn't conflict with their own alma mater.  That demographic is swamped by the NFL crowd.  The number of people who follow TCU or SMU and didn't attend those schools is minuscule, and the number of alums who are still alive is minuscule.

There are probably 10-20 schools who can pull non-graduate eyeballs, and that list includes UT and OU.  It obviously includes 'bama, tOSU, Michigan, Notre Dame, and some combination of USC, FSU, Penn State, UGA, etc.  Nobody who didn't attend Baylor or TCU or even Tech or OSU gives a flying fuck about those schools.

[Burt Macklin 18,998]

6 minutes ago, ousux said:

 
From that article..

"Horns247 reported previously that Texas and Oklahoma are prepared to wait until the current grant of rights agreement expires in 2025 before moving on from the Big 12.
To leave earlier, Texas and OU would be contractually bound to give up their four remaining years of Big 12 television revenue, which would total nearly $160 million each (based on 2019's $37.7 million payout per school)"

aggy may have failed in their desperation attempt, but they did succeed in speeding up the timeline. There is no fucking way us and BlowU stay in the Big12 3 more seasons after this one...we'll both go independent for 3 years if needed to finish out the tv nonsense. We already get hosed by big12 zebras on the regular, I can only imagine they're feverishly working on how to make '15 pokes game seem like a evenly called game by comparison.

No they didn’t. UT and OU have never planned to wait until 2025. Saying the Grant of Rights is up in 2025, so that was UT and OU’s plan is just lazy and uninformed journalism. In other words, par for the course for FCB.  

[Mo Horn 8,807]

7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Aggy and Arkansas have always played in JerryWorld. Like aggy, he's just flailing now. 

Hasn't Georgia / Florida been played in Jacksonville for like forever? 

[maninblack 7,974]

 

[MIkeHoncho 1,895]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

 

Find the one that somebody made with the Spanish speaking interviewee who continually has the high pitch laugh. It's much funnier than the Hitler one.

 

TCU is an original member of the Big 12?

 

 

You mean future LSU AD Ross Bjork?

 

By the time they vote it will be 14-0.

I can't wait to see how the aggy talking heads spin it that the "ag power brokers" finally got involved and were assured (probably through a gentlemen's agreement) that they would be at the big boy table from now on if they gave their precious vote to make it 14-0.  Probably got promised a brand new mini-fridge to store the jizz jar or something of that nature.  

[Chopper 17,154]

Next up from Curt Bohls: "Does 4, 4 team pods plus playing every other team in the conference every 2 years mean the end of sec rivals week? Would doing away with rivals week be a sign of weakness?"

 

Edited July 23, 2021 by Chopper

[TonyTexas 10,482]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

@Helobious you think we might get in somehow?

Lulz. Let’s pin this to the top. I love to embarrass that guy

On 7/22/2021 at 9:54 AM, Helobious said:

These threads are hilarious. Texas & OU aren’t going anywhere. It’s like none of you remember when Meyer coming here was a “done deal” a few months ago. 

 

[South Austin 52,144]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

I proposed something earlier, but 18 leaving out WVU for geography and BU for rape. If KU and ISU go BIG, it works out at 16.

(pic taken from another board)

 

That seems to make regional sense.  I mean, five of the nine states touch the ocean.

[HtownHorn 14,485]

4 hours ago, South Austin said:

I love this argument, suggesting that Greg Abbott's staff diligently marks every donor's contribution with a notation of their alma mater so the Governor can always keep in mind the need to satisfy football allegiances when he's making political decisions.  I need to join Twitter just so I can follow Chin Pubes for the next several weeks and overdose on laughing.

Don't do it, twitter is a bigger black hole than your mom's vagina.

[lemonandaturd 4,285]

14 hours ago, UTEX_ME said:

NSIAP

They left out pre game food poisoning at the visitors hotel.   

[Red Five 40,655]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Next up from Curt Bohls: "Does 4, 4 team pods plus playing every team in the conference every 2 years mean the end of sec rivals week? Would doing away with rivals week be a sign of weakness?"

 

"Now that Texas is in the SEC, will they keep Bevo? Or change to like a dog or cat or something."

[RollLeft 5,040]

25 minutes ago, Droopy said:

@immamac we really need a yawn emoji. I'd also take an eye roll emoji for the passive aggressive folks.

a WTF emoji should replace the FAaFA emoji.  

[Neonmoon 38,127]

If/when Texas/OU leave for SEC, 

BIG, ACC, and PAC aren’t going to wait 4 years in 2025 to see who gets the next pick. The picking is happening now. BIG and PAC are already talking to teams 

When 4 teams exit, Big 12 dissolves. It’s over 

[jimmyjazz 45,555]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

That seems to make regional sense.  I mean, five of the nine states touch the ocean.

They could add Hawaii.

['stache 21,772]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

That seems to make regional sense.  I mean, five of the nine states touch the ocean.

Can't wait for a roadtrip to see that ocean front property in arizona.

[billfromlaketravis 11,359]

Finebaum's circular logic is surprising even for him.

"Texas is irrelevant."

"The SEC can't afford not to take Texas. They can't let them go to the Big Ten." 

These two thoughts can't logically exist at the same time. 

[Viper 12,028]

I continually curse the AAS intern that set Bohls up with a twitter account instead of opening up a word document and typing the address, www.kirkbohlsthoughts.gov.www/kirkbohlsthoughts at the top and telling him that's his twitter blog.

[JOSEYWALES66 1,790]

Just now, billfromlaketravis said:

Finebaum's circular logic is surprising even for him.

"Texas is irrelevant."

"The SEC can't afford not to take Texas. They can't let them go to the Big Ten." 

These two thoughts can't logically exist at the same time. 

That doesn't even make the top 10 in stupid things that dumbo has said.  

Hate that punk. 

[troph 24,562]

1 hour ago, Gucci_Suit said:

The best thing about all this…even if you hate the sec, as I do, is the little camp fire of hope that aggy had built for himself and the fact that his big brother and his brother’s asshole friend walked up and peed on it. Now he’s crying and throwing his toys at them as everyone laughs. 

It’s just glorious. 

you just called OU a friend.  jesus fucking christ guys, let's not get carried away.

[SquishMitten 10,400]

11 minutes ago, ousux said:

 
From that article..

"Horns247 reported previously that Texas and Oklahoma are prepared to wait until the current grant of rights agreement expires in 2025 before moving on from the Big 12.
To leave earlier, Texas and OU would be contractually bound to give up their four remaining years of Big 12 television revenue, which would total nearly $160 million each (based on 2019's $37.7 million payout per school)"
 

This is the dumbest fucking point I've ever heard, and these morons keep repeating it. Of course we would "have to give up" the Big 12 tv revenue for the years that WE AREN'T PLAYING IN THE BIG 12. We would instead be getting money from the SEC TV revenue. We ain't giving up shit. If there's a penalty for leaving early or potential for a "lost profits" suit, that could be worthy of discussing. But reporters keep mentioning the TV revenue like it's somehow relevant, but it's not. 

[jinx 2,635]

2 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

 

If they need help filling out those application forms, I am not currently doing anything but reading message boards.

[dark54555 72]

34 minutes ago, DallasGatr said:

I’m going to disagree here. In my (probably more neutral) eyes the order is:

Cowboys……………………………………………………Texas…A&M…………….Tech…….OU….OkieSt…LSU.TCU.SMU.Baylor.Bama.Arky.Everyone else

There are more Sooners here than Aggies.  

[RTF Horn 46]

So if this ends up being our last season in the Big XII, which it looks like it will, let's win the fucking conference.  We won the first one, let's win the last one.

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

What I love from the "Texas isn't relevant" aggy crowd. Literally all the tweets from anyone is about Texas joining the sec and they tag ou on as a addition WITH Texas. If Texas wasn't relevant they would be a shit ton more ou hate from everyone but it's all about Texas. Living rent free in those aggy caves y'all call brains.