Realignment talk not going away

[South Austin 52144]

20 minutes ago, Big Woodrows said:

This is a great reminder of some of the language in Jimbo's contract. Hilarious.

This contractual language can be overridden by a gentlemen’s agreement, of course.

[iamjethro 81]

6 minutes ago, troph said:

My family is up there except my mom. Arky hate is a beautiful thing. It really though had some magical moments. Tony Jones and Eric Metcalf miracle at Arky might be my favorite moment Texas football moment of all time outside of the USC and Michigan games. 

42-11 in 1981 might be the fav or our series that I witnessed live.  😜

[TexArcher 37508]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

 

[orangebird 1079]

6 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

They are about to revert to their rightful slot at #3.

You young 'uns just wait until this Arky thing gets going year after year. It's more of a pure hate than a "goddamn it my little brother is such a fucking pain in the ass" annoyance. Seriously, the hate level is right at or exceeding Gooner levels on their end and it will approach it on our end too after our first home and home. 

Yep, they used to call it Fayette-Nam, and for good reason.

[Gatorubet 30099]

I would give some dude’s left and right nuts to restore Texas vs Arkansas, Texas vs. A&M and keep Texas versus OU. Those are Texas most hated rivals and how I want to watch Texas football on saturdays in the fall. 

As a college football fan who started watching in the late 1960s, I would love to see those rivalries restored. I miss playing those Auburn assholes every year. I might get that back as well.

[The Dude 1244]

4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

[texasstrong12 4668]

You can already see the position shift by A&M. Zwerneman is also reporting that "A&M believes they are in good position to own Texas in the football series." 

They've accepted reality it just took them 3 days of being losers and bad PR to get there. 

 

[ztejas 43266]

4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

This is like a soon-to-be ex girlfriend telling you she's okay if you sleep around a bit as long as you stay with her. 

A little pathetic. It ain't happening, guys.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Beating Texas on the field won't really change much of anything for A&M. That's just the reality of it.

Sorry, Aggies

[RomaVicta 29784]

7 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

They are about to revert to their rightful slot at #3.

You young 'uns just wait until this Arky thing gets going year after year. It's more of a pure hate than a "goddamn it my little brother is such a fucking pain in the ass" annoyance. Seriously, the hate level is right at or exceeding Gooner levels on their end and it will approach it on our end too after our first home and home. 

And Arkansas will improve with games in Texas to help recruiting. Don't forget, A&M usually just barely gets by the Hogs.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

4 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Credit to A&M for how quickly they realized they were making themselves look like idiots and also making an even bigger laughingstock of themselves. The good thing about being a fanbase full of sheep is that Liucci will tell them they were excited about Texas coming the whole time and they'll believe it and act like the last 48 hours never happened. 

When Jimbo was at FSU, Texags had a couple thousand posts bashing him as a rape enabler for Winston.  Those all disappeared like a fart in the wind when he was hired.  That website is Pravda

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Why the fuck would any university not named aggy agree to be in a place they don’t want to be for an uneven share of the pie?  Everything will go back to that when shit doesn’t go the right way for some school. 

[JFKFC 4878]

13 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Never seen Arkansas at DKR….. can’t wait to check this matchup off my list.  

Go to downtown Austin. Just sit on the curb and hang out. Let the homeless come up and talk to you. Breathe in the aromas, enjoy the conversations. This is what it is like surrounded by Arkiesaw fans at DKR.

[TornACL 7675]

The big, smart, fancy, rich Ags in the BOR are gonna get together and decide what they should demand in exchange for their "Yes" vote, even though it's not needed and they have zero leverage. 

The SEC will grant some token gesture to A&M to help them save face, like ensuring the first UT A&M game is in College Station. And they will take those crumbs and parade them about the town and gloat as if they've really pulled one over. 

Then they'll lose that first game 28-10 and blame the refs because the Side Judge's niece goes to St Ed's, so he's clearly in the tsips' pockets.

Quintessential Aggy.

[Aqua Buddha 14512]

10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Sadly, this would have entice the previous leadership.

[iamjethro 81]

4 minutes ago, orangebird said:

Yep, they used to call it Fayette-Nam, and for good reason.

Arkansas did not like you, and you bloodied our noses more than we did yours, but we didn't back down from you and we got our licks in on occasion.  Respect and dislike can co-exist.

[HouTex 1850]

Never seen Arkansas at DKR….. can’t wait to check this matchup off my list.  

My first home UT game was in 1980 my freshman year and we played Arkansas in the college TV kickoff classic (i think that’s what it was called—it was the first big televised game of the season). We beat Lou Holtz’s team. It was a great way to begin four years of generally excellent UT football.

[Rip76 4914]

PSA:  Texas vs Aggy 2004 on LHN right now.

[cafe society 2840]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Nebraska fans being pissed off still is really, really, really weird

The absurd narrative that Nebraska has pushed all these years is akin to a rapist claiming it was his victim's fault because she dressed too suggestively.

[Nueces River Rat 5529]

7 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

You can already see the position shift by A&M. Zwerneman is also reporting that "A&M believes they are in good position to own Texas in the football series." 

They've accepted reality it just took them 3 days of being losers and bad PR to get there. 

 

[utee94 15745]

11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Do not want.

And even if Texas accepted something like that and saved the B12 (again), it would end up being viewed as "those arrogant and unfair bastages in Austin screwed us all again."

It's a lose-lose, and an easy proposition to decline.

[troph 24562]

8 minutes ago, iamjethro said:

42-11 in 1981 might be the fav or our series that I witnessed live.  😜

Start at 1:19:20 and realize your future … it’s inevitable. Hahaha. 
 

 

[RomaVicta 29784]

8 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

When Jimbo was at FSU, Texags had a couple thousand posts bashing him as a rape enabler for Winston.  Those all disappeared like a fart in the wind when he was hired.  That website is Pravda

They train on changing direction.

[TornACL 7675]

4 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Do not want.

And even if Texas accepted something like that and saved the B12 (again), it would end up being viewed as "those arrogant and unfair bastages in Austin screwed us all again."

It's a lose-lose, and an easy proposition to decline.

That's the Big 12 brass throwing a hail mary, which will fall harmlessly incomplete. 

[South Austin 52144]

41 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Counterpoint: aggy law school. They can create remedies nobody even imagined before now.

Tortious interference with gentlemen’s agreement.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

And Arkansas will improve with games in Texas to help recruiting. Don't forget, A&M usually just barely gets by the Hogs.

I think a rising Arkansas would be at the expense of aggy, OU and Mizzou...They used to get some good players out of St. Louis (Atwater) and Columbia (Gary Anderson, the Jheri curl RB). They also pull from Oklahoma some (McFadden and Felix Jones)....At least they don't full on raid Texas and Texas alone like OU, and it seems like it was only Dallas and the NE corner. (Fertile territory but if they were all we had to deal with OOS you could live with that easily.) 

[iamjethro 81]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

Start at 1:19:20 and realize your future … it’s inevitable. Hahaha. 
 

 

I prefer to look at the overall last few times we played.

[Chuckie Finster 22600]

So now they want to work with UT?

OutdoorAg 2:29p    AG   As another poster said, f- the SEC! It looks like the move is going to happen. Once it does, it's time to make this conference and it's sh*tty commissioner regret it. Lets's partner with the horns and OU and start putting the pressure on the conference to move the SEC championship game to Dallas. Let's move the league office to Houston. They wanted these two teams in, so let them see what we've been trying to tell them

“Let’s partner with Texas and then blame them for ruining everything!”
-eleven word summary of aggy in the Big 12

[Gatorubet 30099]

When Jimbo was at FSU, Texags had a couple thousand posts bashing him as a rape enabler for Winston.  Those all disappeared like a fart in the wind when he was hired.  That website is Pravda

To be fair, almost all fans are hypocrites when a coach comes in and wins for them. Buckeye Planet had Urban Meyer ID’d as the most dishonest shit in football as a Gator coach. He came to Columbus and owned Michigan and won a National Championship. Then, when ‘what did he know about domestic abuse of a coach’s wife!’ was at issue and his cell phone turned up wiped, he was declared an innocent victim of circumstances and all negative comments an SEC ESPN plot to smear them.

All fans do it. All programs do it. UF too. “Fans” derives from a longer word for a reason.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5342]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

To be fair, almost all fans are hypocrites when a coach comes in and wins for them. Buckeye Planet had Urban Meyer ID’d as the most dishonest shit in football as a Gator coach. He came to Columbus and owned Michigan and won a National Championship. Then, when ‘what did he know about domestic abuse of a coach’s wife!’ was at issue and his cell phone turned up wiped, he was declared an innocent victim of circumstances and all negative comments an SEC ESPN plot to smear them.

All fans do it. All programs do it. UF too. “Fans” derives from a longer word for a reason.

Nah man. We've always thought the SEC is by far the best league in the country.

[iamjethro 81]

1 minute ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I think a rising Arkansas would be at the expense of aggy, OU and Mizzou...They used to get some good players out of St. Louis (Atwater) and Columbia (Gary Anderson, the Jheri curl RB). They also pull from Oklahoma some (McFadden and Felix Jones)....At least they don't full on raid Texas and Texas alone like OU, and it seems like it was only Dallas and the NE corner. (Fertile territory but if they were all we had to deal with OOS you could live with that easily.) 

We know we won't get kids you want.  We know, unless it is a rare exception, we won't get kids OU wants.  But now, with both of you in our conference and raised visibility in your state, kids still good enough to add real value we have better chances to get over TT, Baylor, TCU, etc. if they don't have the same conference appeal and especially if they wind up in AAC or MWC type leagues.

[RollLeft 5040]

3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

... But your power and influence in your new conference will not be the same as in your former. It just won’t. And that is not intended as an insult.

You're damn right it won't be the same.  We go from having to be one of the smartest guys in the room, including the B12 office, to being able to count on a conference with some capacity and pull to be able to make decisions.  That said your point is two sided.  Its not just us who have to realize how things will no longer be the same.  its naïve to think that things will be same for you.  Change brings change, for everyone.  

 

3 hours ago, DCLonghorn said:

I once overheard a blue-blood SEC president gently rib Slive about this exact point. Slive even more gently shot that right down. It was a sight to behold...

We will not be moving the center of gravity for SEC as much as many of us think we might, or at all.
 

Cool story, i guess?  That some of you feel the need to preface or express these types of sentiments on a message board, Surly no less, is humorous to me.  I suppose dealing with those rubes over in collie set that expectation.

No one is saying WE / Texas will move anything much less want to move anything.  That said the center will move, not because Texas wills it or seeks "power" or "control" but because things as we know it are changing, drastically.  Both parties have done well for themselves and yet at this juncture both parties STILL see it in their mutual interest to join forces.  This provides each side with new leverage.  Also to possibly change the rules of the game.  

There is no need to worry.  As someone else stated Texas can read a room.  Furthermore, anyone who has held it knows, power and the smartest guys in the room will gravitate to each other naturally.  Those who think the SEC of old will be the same are in for a ride, but again not because Texas will try and "flex" but because the size of change, NIL/superconference/tv contracts, is new and bigger than ever before and the resources and talents are at the disposal to the conference to navigate that shit.  Who that is and who respects who and who entrusts who with power and control is known in the room.  Its usually those fighting for it in public that don't have it.         

Jfc, i leave this place for an hour and return to a bunch of buzz kill posts.  Quick someone post the spanish guy again. 

What an opportunity Texas has before it.  I'm licking my chops at the possibilities!  Bring it.    

Edited July 24, 2021 by RollLeft

[Bozo_Casanova 26279]

4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I have posted here for a few years and generally like most of y’all.

But the attitude displayed in this post is exactly why some of us have the impression of UT fans that we do.

“We’re Texas”. Whatever. You’re one of 16 now.

Give it 5 years, once the novelty has worn off, and y’all will bitching about “THE SEC OFFICE IS IN BIRMINGHAM, PAULLLLLLL” and posting conspiracy theories about the Red Elephant Club.

Lol. This isn’t some diabetes-belt school for meat cutters in a jerkwater college town with a captive police department that reports to the athletic director.  
Maybe this will help. Take Stanford. Quadruple the size, make it a public school and put it in a thriving world-class city instead of a bedroom community. Then give it the most valuable brand of any University in America. That’s us. 

We’re Texas. what’s starts here changes the world. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by Bozo_Casanova

[utee94 15745]

25 minutes ago, orangebird said:

This.  And quite honestly, this is the biggest problem I have had with the Big XII for the last 10 years.  The Big XII has basically been propped up by Texas and OU, and to a somewhat lesser extent, OSU, over the last 10 years.  All the while, the remora in the conference have been whining and complaining about how Texas runs everything, while at the same time still gladly accepting all the money we have brought into the conference.  Well kids, we're selling the house and moving.  Time to put on your big boy pants and go get an apartment.

Do I believe that we will run things in the SEC?  Absolutely not.  I see Texas as a peer among rough equals with the likes of OU, Bama, LSU, and Florida.  We know damn well the SEC will get along just peachy without us.  But frankly, we're all a bit tired of being the ATM for the rest of the Big XII, while they mostly shit all over us at the same time.  At least with the SEC, we will be respected for our size, history, and additional resources that we bring to the party.  We may be disliked by some.  That's fine, we're used to it.  We will win some, and we will lose some.  But it will be fun.  Let's ride.

This for sure. And I can't tell you how pleasant it will be, to NOT be the one that must be the savior of a conference.  The SEC is completely capable of standing on its own, with or without us.  What a freaking relief that is.  Now we can just focus on getting better at football and winning games.  

Football is supposed to be fun and entertaining.  This is a step in the right direction.

 

From a football perspective, I never hated the B12 like a lot of others around here did.  I found the games to be entertaining and compelling.  It was certainly a deeper and better conference than the PAC or the ACC have been for the past decade.  So I never felt the need to "get away" due to some sense of poor competition, that wasn't the issue.

If it ends up working out, joining the SEC will offer competitive football and against some new names, along with the renewing of two old rivalries, so I look forward to that.  And I REALLY look forward to Texas NOT having to throw its weight around and wear the yoke for nearly every other team in the conference from a political/revenue perspective.

Edited July 24, 2021 by utee94

[troph 24562]

19 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As a college football fan who started watching in the late 1960s, I would love to see those rivalries restored. I miss playing those Auburn assholes every year. I might get that back as well.

Yeah bringing Texas Arky back is the most underrated and unnoticed part of this whole thing. This really might restore some old SEC match ups and bring some SWC great rivalries back. OU should non-conf Nebraska for that mid season pasty week too.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Bjork is definitely in the acceptance stage. I mean this is close to confirmation that it's a done deal. 

 

Edited July 24, 2021 by texasstrong12

[Aqua Buddha 14512]

Arkansas doesn't really hate anyone in the SEC.  They hate Texas and OU to a lesser degree OU.

The hate will keep them warm at night.

[troph 24562]

8 minutes ago, iamjethro said:

I prefer to look at the overall last few times we played.

Yeah like the time we fuck your shit up with  VY and El Ced (RIP). Bring it, glad you hate your jethro asses. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

4 minutes ago, iamjethro said:

We know we won't get kids you want.  We know, unless it is a rare exception, we won't get kids OU wants.  But now, with both of you in our conference and raised visibility in your state, kids still good enough to add real value we have better chances to get over TT, Baylor, TCU, etc. if they don't have the same conference appeal and especially if they wind up in AAC or MWC type leagues.

Yeah this will take a bite out of TCU's domination of small-town NE Texas....Or y'all could if you were smart. 

[South Austin 52144]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

Bjork is definitely in the acceptance phase. I mean this is close to confirmation that it's a done deal. 

 

“We’re surprised at the speed it it” is the title to my sex tape.

[lemonandaturd 4285]

27 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Give those shares to Walt Anderson and his merry band of fuck ups as severance pay when they are told to GTFO.  

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

Yeah bringing Texas Arky back is the most underrated and unnoticed part of this whole thing. This really might restore some old SEC match ups and bring some SWC great rivalries back. OU should non-conf Nebraska for that mid season pasty week too.

We'll take what's left of Baylor in that slot. 

[troph 24562]

19 minutes ago, TornACL said:

The big, smart, fancy, rich Ags in the BOR are gonna get together and decide what they should demand in exchange for their "Yes" vote, even though it's not needed and they have zero leverage. 

The SEC will grant some token gesture to A&M to help them save face, like ensuring the first UT A&M game is in College Station. And they will take those crumbs and parade them about the town and gloat as if they've really pulled one over. 

Then they'll lose that first game 28-10 and blame the refs because the Side Judge's niece goes to St Ed's, so he's clearly in the tsips' pockets.

Quintessential Aggy.

God I can’t wait.

[pops 6974]

25 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

You can already see the position shift by A&M. Zwerneman is also reporting that "A&M believes they are in good position to own Texas in the football series." 

They've accepted reality it just took them 3 days of being losers and bad PR to get there. 

 

How in the fuck did you come across a scott Garrard tweet???

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

Yeah bringing Texas Arky back is the most underrated and unnoticed part of this whole thing. This really might restore some old SEC match ups and bring some SWC great rivalries back. OU should non-conf Nebraska for that mid season pasty week too.

Baylor tears: also underrated and unnoticed. Has anybody bothered to check on them? I grew to hate them as much as anyone else, ever. And it wasn't a grudging respect type of hate.

[cafe society 2840]

28 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

They are about to revert to their rightful slot at #3.

You young 'uns just wait until this Arky thing gets going year after year. It's more of a pure hate than a "goddamn it my little brother is such a fucking pain in the ass" annoyance. Seriously, the hate level is right at or exceeding Gooner levels on their end and it will approach it on our end too after our first home and home. 

I am admittedly older than most here but until Arkie stupidly bolted for the SEC they were without doubt our second biggest rival.  Frank Broyles refused damn near his entire career to change the date of the annual Horns-Piggy game from the week after OU.  Hell, I thought Tech gave aggy a run for the money as our third biggest rival.  Aggy was irrelevant until they started cheating under scumbucket Sherrill, as it has always been irrelevant unless it flagrantly breaks the rules. 

[BrazilHorn 6576]

1 minute ago, lemonandaturd said:

Give those shares to Walt Anderson and his merry band of fuck ups as severance pay when they are told to GTFO.  

This. Fuck all those dudes. 

[ShowMeALoss 143]

Have we asked the SEC to change its name to Longhorn Eastern Conference ("LEC") yet? Since we like to assert our power wherever we go, I thought changing the name to a more suitable one that shows who everyone's daddy is should be one of the first things on the agenda.

[Kermit 3128]

14 minutes ago, TornACL said:

That's the Big 12 brass throwing a hail mary, which will fall harmlessly incomplete. 

Are there Big 12 refs? If so, penalty.

[iamjethro 81]

8 minutes ago, troph said:

Yeah like the time we fuck your shit up with  VY and El Ced (RIP). Bring it, glad you hate your jethro asses. 

Bret Bielema says hi. 

Glad to have this kind of board fun back in  my life.  It is like professional wrestling promos.  Like I said, in case some of your members are not actual UT people but folks who take everything literally and think you have to pull a knife if a person asks if their off-orange shirt was bought from a street corner hawker, Respect and dislike (and board messages) can co-exist.

And by the way, that Texas team was stout.

Edited July 24, 2021 by iamjethro