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How many teams will be left when the dust settles in a few years? I think there's a way for all the teams to still have some involvement. I will explain that at the end of this list. Here's my list of the top 32 programs and a list if it goes to 48. There's some debate if it goes to 48, but not much debate if it stops at 32. I guess one could debate Arizona State, but that's about it. The top 32 at least come close to carrying their own weight. Everyone below that line is losing money for t

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Aggy should abstain so the vote is 13-0 and then we can then brand it on their dog.

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1 hour ago, MoJames said:

One big one would be an easier road to the Playoffs. I've been in the Big10 corner. I honestly have no interest in the Pac12.

There is absolutely no other road easier to the playoffs than having an SEC label on your jersey. 

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1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

I feel like aggy will make some administrators head roll. I saw speculation that the school president was notified of this months ago, so if the natives want blood they may be after her. I agree, Sharp getting the shitcan would be the cherry on top of all of this (outside of Baylor to a G5).

Yeah, the lady president being scapegoated instead of good ol bwah Sharp would definitely be on brand for them.  Doubt they even know her name.

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5 minutes ago, SuperSport said:

If Sharp legitimately upheld the gag order and gets canned for not leaking it, Hartzell should hire him to some bullshit admin or consultant role for $1 more than they paid him. The aggy tears would be unfathomable.

Would also hilariously result in a number of valid lawsuits against A&M 

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2 hours ago, Scholz said:

I'm really hoping for John Sharp to be sent packing.  Really, really am.

the intel for the past 24 hours has been a solid lean towards 1 of 2 things:

- sec power told aggy to shoot sharp in retaliation for last wednesday's stunt

- sharp is going to shot bjork and blame him for the stunt even though sharp sent bjork to hoover to pitch sharp's fit for him

if there is a personnel shooting tied to the BoR meeting, it has to be one of the above and i'm betting it's sharp getting shot

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5 hours ago, Randolph Duke said:

To my knowledge, the SEC didn't do reduced shares for aggy or Mizzou. The Big 10 did, but those reduced shares I believe were to offset financial support given to the incoming schools to offset transitional expenses.

The SEC didn't give aggy financial support in 2012 when transitional expenses left aggy athletics (yet again) unable to pay its bills. Rather, the academic side increased the amount of the "interest-free loan" that had been outstanding since 2006 by $5.2 million. This "loan" is still being paid down in installments and is scheduled to be finally repaid later in the decade.

I have no doubt both UT and OU will receive full distributions from Day 1.

Correct about the SEC.  Wrong about the Big 10.  They went all Baylor on their newcomers.  Nebraska is STILL tens of millions behind Iowa St. in conference distributions since they left the Big 12.

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2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Lmao they have aggy in Dallas hahahahaha

more shitty maps.. shows how irrelevant aggy is to the rest of the country.  Remember that T-shirt that left off the whole state when they joined? lol

 

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2 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Someone needs to neg brandonmarcello, longhorn emblem is supposed to be centered and properly engorged . Should probably horns should be spearing the a in aTm to reflect the reality of the situation

 

1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Lmao they have aggy in Dallas hahahahaha

It's just one more data point regarding relative importance. Usually they're placed in Houston, but the reality is that all these graphics are created with the following thought process:

1. Put UT over Austin.
2. Put A&M wherever they fit after that.

Sometimes they miss a bit with Austin like above, but that's basically what's being thought every single time.

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13 minutes ago, SuperSport said:

If Sharp legitimately upheld the gag order and gets canned for not leaking it, Hartzell should hire him to some bullshit admin or consultant role for $1 more than they paid him. The aggy tears would be unfathomable.

Just thinking the same.

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33 minutes ago, jinx said:

I actually work with an attorney on a current project that messes this up in the other direction, and I have never heard anyone do that before. It is not a one time occurrence either.

Just this morning he let one of the people on our video call know that their microphone was on "moot". 

Mootness is a pretty important concept of you're practicing trial law so it might be rattling round in his head a bit.  Still got a be a dumbass to confuse it with mute, though.

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4 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said:

more shitty maps.. shows how irrelevant aggy is to the rest of the country.  Remember that T-shirt that left off the whole state when they joined? lol

 

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To be fair that shirt also doesn't show Missouri. They were just trying to ingratiate themselves to their new conference just like with that ridiculous video where they did every other school's cheer. The one that showed how irrelevant they were was this one:

 

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Just now, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Stfu?

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I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Retort is as follows:

"You're an idiot who has no idea what you're talking about."

You're welcome.

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18 minutes ago, SuperSport said:

If Sharp legitimately upheld the gag order and gets canned for not leaking it, Hartzell should hire him to some bullshit admin or consultant role for $1 more than they paid him. The aggy tears would be unfathomable.

It would be an amazing episode of stupidity for aggy to get rid of Sharpe over this.      But stupidity is  a badge of honor in Collie Station.

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I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

They also like to bring up how the longhorn network is the reason everyone hates us and why people left the conference. I know this isnt true but I want to have my facts straight so I dont have to hear this shit anymore lol. 

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2 minutes ago, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Eventually, we all have to learn to stand on our own.

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https://defector.com/a-bigger-sec-is-better-football/

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Today, Oklahoma and Texas officially confirmed their plans to move to the SEC after their contract with the Big 12 expires in 2025. If you were literally born yesterday, this is an evil and vile occurrence: an ominous sign that the people in charge of college football are more than willing to abandon the traditions, upon which the sport’s popularity has been cultivated, in favor of easy TV money. GASP!

And yet, MANY sportswriters are already acting as if their precious innocence has been violated, starting with The Athletic’s Chris Vannini:

Quite honestly, it sucks. We love every juicy rumor about who could land where, but college football is racing down a road toward becoming a mini-NFL, and it will ruin everything we love about the sport… It’s not pro sports. It’s supposed to mean something more. There aren’t 30 “teams” we care about. There are a hundred unique communities. But pettiness and greed have won the decade, and this move by Texas, Oklahoma and the SEC could cement this path toward ending that forever.

You can actually HEAR me jerking off to that blockquote. Vannini is acting as if this move is some sort of definitive point of no return for a sport that crossed that point from its very inception and crosses it over and over again as a matter of tradition. And it’s insane to me that any sportswriter—in fact, fuck it, any sports FAN—would say college football is “not pro sports” the same year that its players were finally, at long last, allowed to profit from their work, as professionals do and should. If college football is ready to drop the mask and operate as a nakedly capitalistic enterprise devoid of all the scholar-athlete horseshit, with its players getting a taste of the action, NO ONE should be shocked or dismayed when its leaders do more of the nakedly capitalistic shit they’ve been doing my entire life. “A hundred unique communities.” Gimme a fucking break. They all get drunk and eat lots of grilled meats and go fuck in the big bathroom stall at the half every game. What a fucking rainbow.

This isn’t the first time Texas has switched conferences in my lifetime. In fact, if you remember the brief period when it toyed with the idea of joining the Pac-12, it’s damn near the fourth. I don’t give a shit. Texas fans, who remain legion despite themselves, certainly don’t seem to give a shit either. Most of us are used to this reshuffling now. It’s just how college football IS, and it’s done very little to affect my enjoyment of the sport, at least in its non-pandemic form, over the course of my life. Yes, I miss a Big Eight where Nebraska runs the option. No, I can’t remember who’s in the ACC anymore and who isn’t. Yes, I thought it was an abomination that the Big Ten got so horny for eyeballs that they brought RUCKUHS into the fold. But I got over all that.

And if you go by the pre-COVID crowds and ratings, so did everyone else. If OU’s and Texas’ machinations prove anything, it’s that college sports is apparently the last safe place for sportswriters to deploy Lupica-grade smarm and assume the world agrees with them. I do not agree with them. I’m not gonna spend this season singing along to “It’s So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday” and pouring one out while Texas plays Iowa State for potentially the last time. No one will. In fact, I’ll be demonstrably annoyed that the SEC move hasn’t happened yet. The SEC plays the best brand of football at this level, and it just added arguably CFB’s best tactician in Lincoln Riley and its most reliable sap-with-dignity in Texas. I can’t wait for those two to join in on the fun.

Because it will be fun. Demanding stasis from college football is not only childish, it also presumes that fans can’t adjust to their new reality. Believe me, they can. The fans are still gonna make whatever drunken pilgrimages they’re asked to make. They’re still gonna sell out every home game. They’re still gonna tailgate. They’re still gonna watch the Sooner Schooner race out onto the field and secretly hope it tips over. They’re still gonna camp out behind the GameDay set and hoot in approval when Corso puts on a big elephant head. They’re still gonna laugh in Dabo’s face when he’s like, “Well if we get left outta that there playoff because Owklahowma got een, aw’ll just have tew retire!” I’ve met college football fans. There’s nothing you can take away from them if they’re determined to keep it.

I’ve seen people like Vannini and our own Ray Ratto compare what’s happening with college football right now to the international Super League in soccer that got smothered in utero after fans vehemently protested it. But while that’s a convenient analogy, it’s not a useful one. You see any fans amassing outside SEC headquarters in Birmingham, screaming for vengeance? No. And do you know why? Because they’re fine with this.

The Super League was a shit idea because it threatened to denigrate an already excellent product by discarding soccer’s hallowed promotion/relegation structure in favor of lifetime appointments in a more calcified iteration of the Champions League. But what we’re watching in college football right now IS promotion and relegation, with Texas and OU moving up to the big leagues and making those big leagues more competitive in the process. This is how it SHOULD work. This is how many fans here have begged for American pro sports to work for years now. So really, the people complaining about this move are closer to the people who pissed and moaned about the formation of the Premier League in 1992. Those people were wrong.

And so are the people trying to pooh-pooh Texas and Oklahoma by going, “Well what’s Kansas supposed to do now?” The fuck do I care? That’s a Kansas problem. All I know is that the big games just got bigger, which is a net good for anyone who cares about college football aesthetically and not morally. We’re weeding out the more moneyed cupcakes in the sport, and if that makes CFB more like the NFL now, well fuck that’s EXACTLY what I want. Especially if this sets us down a road not to ruin but (and yes I’m as jaded as you are on this one) to players getting actual salaries. So no, I don’t give a shit about community. I don’t give a shit about oaken buckets. I’ve re-engineered my viewing habits and my rooting interests to the new landscape of college football before, and I can do it again with this more streamlined, NFL-y version of it. If you can’t, well then you deserve to be left behind the same way Oklahoma State is about to be.

 

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20 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Right, all that matters now is getting in the Tournament. You may not host a home game or get a bye but you can control your own destiny on the field. 

I'm wondering if like the 4 pod winners are just basically in the playoffs or I'm guessing there will be a scenario where the Pod losers don't have strong enough resumes and the 5th place SEC team gets in.  Just spitballin

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4 minutes ago, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

You reply back by asking why is it UT’s job to stay in a conference just so they have a home?  They should be mad at their own leadership, not mad at UT.  And you can tell them that if they are mad, they are just admitting they need UT to survive.  

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I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 


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