Realignment talk not going away

[bullet 1596]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

This was a perfect conference map. Fuck realignment. 

It would be perfect if you substituted Arkansas or LSU for A&M.

[GTNY 280]

16 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I think this guy is an ISU fan - what did he expect??? That Texas would have a deep-seated love for the institution of Iowa State University?

 

Easy as fuck to be Iowa State and "commit" to riding Texas and OU's coattails when you have no alternative. There's no reason for us to commit to them. 

[mdmost 42868]

I guess that 5 Star Culture will have to carry Iowa State to their next destination. 

[Texasrocks 2124]

8 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

 

So according to this article, the remaining 8 are only worth $9 million a year (ouch) which is half my estimate $18 million I wrote above.  FYI The American (UH, Cincy, UCF) is worth $7 million a year.  This would mean Texas and Oklahoma’s Tier 1&2 TV rights are worth $290 million a year and the remains 8 are worth $72 million.  I was close.  Adding in Tier 3 Texas and Oklahoma’s TV rights are worth $315 million a year.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-realignment-fallout-whats-next-with-texas-oklahoma-stating-intent-to-leave-big-12-for-sec/

Ouch. That's gotta sting for the rest of the Big 12 to find out their combined annual worth is less than Texas' third-tier rights.

[bullet 1596]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Nebraska was booted from the AAU prior to joining the B1G.  (AAU voted in April 2011, Nebraska joined B1G in June 2012.)

Nebraska was invited before being booted.  And they were booted by votes from Big 10 schools.  Big 12 schools all voted to keep them in.

[Vertigo 20267]

2 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

Ouch. That's gotta sting for the rest of the Big 12 to find out their combined annual worth is less than Texas' third-tier rights.

In fairness, the cost of living in those cities is much lower so it feels like more. 

Edited July 26, 2021 by Vertigo

[Newy25 7638]

1 hour ago, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

 

[Laxtonto 11934]

16 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

It would be funny as shit for TX and OU to veto new members and just explode the conference. 

Thats the play on the contract/GOR/buyout talks with the Big 12.

Texas and OU will veto all expansion talks and will drag one more school along long enough that you cant expand nor can you possibly recruit until we come to a much smaller buyout and a nice settlement.

 

Oh... You are worried about the descalator clauses in the contract? Well that wont even exist for you to negoatiate up from if we drag this out and let 1/3 of you get poached. So Baylor, KSU and TCU... What you say? You think its time to reach a compromise or are you going to let TT, KU, WVU and ISU fuck you completely on this...

 

 

[MAGS® 400]

So.... How many National Championships do we get to add to our stadium's wall when we move to the SEC???

[Nicole44 22028]

Lulz…Cape Cod chips…

 

 

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

1 hour ago, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Tell them they should have studied more or been really good at sports in high school? 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

11 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

Ouch. That's gotta sting for the rest of the Big 12 to find out their combined annual worth is less than Texas' third-tier rights.

 

[Lurch 5921]

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Sorry for partying

[BabaYaga 15214]

31 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

More like this

[BachelorTrek 2941]

15 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

When looking up UT's record vs. Ole Miss I got curious and checked the all-time record vs. the rest of the conference. We have a winning record against every school except two, anyone know who those two are? Probably not who you think:

  Hide contents

http://www.winsipedia.com/texas

 

Time to get that long-awaited win with SC and level the series, too! 

[Native Horn 3492]

24 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I always wondered what would the marine do if he continued his salute? Like hit him? I would have kept saluting and dared him to follow through his billy bad ass “NOOOOO NOOOO” bullshit.

That'd have to be one seriously fast Marine.

[DFW Horn 6118]

3 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

So.... How many National Championships do we get to add to our stadium's wall when we move to the SEC???

9 if we adopt the aggy/SEC methodology

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/How-many-national-titles-can-the-Texas-Longhorns-claim-28834307/

[Huckleberry 32708]

4 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

So.... How many National Championships do we get to add to our stadium's wall when we move to the SEC???

4 recognized/real - 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
5 service/ratings could be added - 1914, 1941, 1968, 1977, 1981
6 undefeated seasons could be added - 1893, 1895, 1900, 1918, 1920, 1923

For the last one, nobody beat us, there wasn't an AP poll or any championship system, so fuck it we could claim it.

We have 15 total fake national championships. The kind A&M puts on a wall.

[bullet 1596]

47 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Hey, shoutout to the Coogs!  You finally made it in!

Or maybe we should resurrect the window with blue coogs, red coogs, raiders, frogs, bears, cowpokes, wildcats, cyclones, mountaineers and funky looking birds.

[Surly Bevo 24698]

4 recognized/real - 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
5 service/ratings could be added - 1914, 1941, 1968, 1977, 1981
6 undefeated seasons could be added - 1893, 1895, 1900, 1918, 1920, 1923
For the last one, nobody beat us, there wasn't an AP poll or any championship system, so fuck it we could claim it.
We have 15 total fake national championships. The kind A&M puts on a wall.

Let’s not do that…

[jinx 2635]

1 hour ago, theBigHen said:

I have friends and relatives bombarding me with texts telling me how Texas is the bad guy and how we have fucked everyone in the conference over. Can someone provide me a brief and factual retort to this that will shut them up? 

Simply tell them that we are all about to find out our school's individual market value and Texas and OU seem to have pretty high values. We will know their respective school's value soon enough.

[BurntOrange&White 39691]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

4 recognized/real - 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
5 service/ratings could be added - 1914, 1941, 1968, 1977, 1981
6 undefeated seasons could be added - 1893, 1895, 1900, 1918, 1920, 1923

For the last one, nobody beat us, there wasn't an AP poll or any championship system, so fuck it we could claim it.

We have 15 total fake national championships. The kind A&M puts on a wall.

1914 is one I’m not sure why we don’t actually claim. 

[TexasGolf 4865]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

4 recognized/real - 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
5 service/ratings could be added - 1914, 1941, 1968, 1977, 1981
6 undefeated seasons could be added - 1893, 1895, 1900, 1918, 1920, 1923

For the last one, nobody beat us, there wasn't an AP poll or any championship system, so fuck it we could claim it.

We have 15 total fake national championships. The kind A&M puts on a wall.

so enough to fill a real hall of champions 

[Valmy77 13116]

4 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

9 if we adopt the aggy/SEC methodology

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/How-many-national-titles-can-the-Texas-Longhorns-claim-28834307/

We better not fucking claim any of those, especially 1914.

[n64ra 1078]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

Oh don't worry, there is plenty of blame to go around. I blame arky for making a short sighted decision to leave the SWC just a few years before a better alignment became available. I blame Baylor (and maybe Tech if I have my history right) for forcing themselves into the conference in a way that ticked some people off from the outset. I blame UT, OU, NU, and aggy for demanding unequal revenue share that was almost certain to destabilize the conference. I blame whoever made the shit decision to not have a permanent cross-division rivalry to salvage OU-NU at the outset. I blame the networks for the "oNE schOOl PER TV MARkEt" bullshit that drove the last round and for destroying long time rivalries because of cable package nonsense that was already a dying model. I blame aggy again for blowing up the Pac-16 move a bunch of us agreed to at a time where everyone else probably could have found a comfortable landing spot. I blame Mizzou for lifting its skirt to the Big 10 which is the earlier I remember this latest wave of bullshit starting. I actually don't blame NU or CU for their moves, which was at a time that it looked pretty inevitable that the Big 12 wouldn't last. And yes, I blame OU and Texas for their moves now when they could have salvaged the conference a decade ago and did nothing to help knowing that they had their eyes set elsewhere because of a few extra million. It's all bullshit. 

You have a lot of blame going around. That's good, I suppose though OSU is notably absent. I blame them for not winning more games against OU and for not having any nattys. I also blame Stillwater for not being a major TV market.

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

I think in the long run this could help Aggy hit 75k enrollment, 25k in engineering. This will drive the semi-smart kids away from Baylor, TCU, and Tech's Business School into Aggy's arms because they want to see a decent football team in a good conference.

They never see the long game. 

[Tonesky 917]

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

[Valmy77 13116]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

1914 is one I’m not sure why we don’t actually claim. 

Because we played none of the football powers and Texas was a backwater at the time. It would be like Toledo claiming the 1995 title over Nebraska.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Valmy77
Whoops wrong decade

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

4 recognized/real - 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
5 service/ratings could be added - 1914, 1941, 1968, 1977, 1981
6 undefeated seasons could be added - 1893, 1895, 1900, 1918, 1920, 1923

For the last one, nobody beat us, there wasn't an AP poll or any championship system, so fuck it we could claim it.

We have 15 total fake national championships. The kind A&M puts on a wall.

Out of the 15, which ones would be considered the most legitimate? 

[Slacks 6792]

32 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I always wondered what would the marine do if he continued his salute? Like hit him? I would have kept saluting and dared him to follow through his billy bad ass “NOOOOO NOOOO” bullshit.

Probably just yell more...  But SFC was right, tho...

[Valmy77 13116]

Just now, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

Look so long as our guys can do bullshit back at them it's fine. But call it both ways.

[Huckleberry 32708]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Out of the 15, which ones would be considered the most legitimate? 

I wouldn't be ashamed to claim the usual four plus 1914, 1941, 1968, and 1977. In each of those seasons there's a decent chance we were the best team in the country.

But I'm even more fine with claiming the usual four and letting other schools be silly about it.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Huckleberry

[UDontKnow 10439]

1 minute ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

Yeah, fuck your office mate. And foolish of you to take advice from anyone hailing from the state that produced Huey P. Long.

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

2 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

I'd say every LSU fan over the age of 40 thinks exactly like this. If you really want to get under his skin, tell him Aggy is a better school than LSU. Despite this being factual, it drives them absolutely insane. 

[bullet 1596]

14 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

So.... How many National Championships do we get to add to our stadium's wall when we move to the SEC???

We aren't aggy, bama or TN.  We won't claim those 4 or 5 additional years (think 41, 61, 68 and 82 somebody ranked us #1.  May have been one other year.  And we had the best team in 2008).

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I wouldn't be ashamed to claim the usual four plus 1914, 1941, 1968, and 1977. In each of those seasons there's a decent chance we were the best team in the country.

But I'm even more fine with claiming the usual four and letting other schools be silly about it.

1977 feels the most legitimate to me. Undefeated regular season in the modern era of college football. 

[Chuckie Finster 22600]

7 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

Tell him congrats on finding a job with an LSU degree.  Seriously, quite a feat.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Chuckie Finster

[Tonesky 917]

3 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

 

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Look so long as our guys can do bullshit back at them it's fine. But call it both ways.

I'm not sure there is really an equivalent to horns down, and, if there is going to be a ban on taunting (which probably prevents a few brawls), horns down directed at a horn player surely qualifies.  But, ultimately it is about winning.  If we are pounding LSU or aggy on their home field, I laugh at their horns down. 

[Gatorubet 30133]

Yeah, fuck your office mate. And foolish of you to take advice from anyone hailing from the state that produced Huey P. Long.

I’m just shocked you found an LSU fan who went to LSU…..or am I assuming?

[Valmy77 13116]

1 minute ago, Tonesky said:

 

I'm not sure there is really an equivalent to horns down

We'll find some

[bullet 1596]

2 minutes ago, bullet said:

We aren't aggy, bama or TN.  We won't claim those 4 or 5 additional years (think 41, 61, 68 and 82 somebody ranked us #1.  May have been one other year.  And we had the best team in 2008).

See Huckleberry already researched it.

We did have the best team in 1968, but had a loss and a tie before we figured out the wishbone and Ohio St. was undefeated.  So none unless we claim 2008.

[BachelorTrek 2941]

1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

I’m just shocked you found an LSU fan who went to LSU…..or am I assuming?

T-shirt lsu fan

[Pam Cummings 9588]

18 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

More like this

We need UT/OU logos on the Bobs

[Gatorubet 30133]

I'm not sure there is really an equivalent to horns down, and, if there is going to be a ban on taunting (which probably prevents a few brawls), horns down directed at a horn player surely qualifies.  But, ultimately it is about winning.  If we are pounding LSU or aggy on their home field, I laugh at their horns down. 

Shit, if you are kicking Gata ass, you can mock chomp us till your shoulder dislocates. Bragging rights and all. I can’t imagine being that butt-hurt over something like that.

[Barbacoa 1934]

10 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

Tell him to go fuck his own face. Dont take shit from these retards. 

[Duane Moore 5236]

4 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

 

I'm not sure there is really an equivalent to horns down, and, if there is going to be a ban on taunting (which probably prevents a few brawls), horns down directed at a horn player surely qualifies.  But, ultimately it is about winning.  If we are pounding LSU or aggy on their home field, I laugh at their horns down. 

 

[Tonesky 917]

 

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Tell him congrats on finding a job with a LSU degree.  Seriously, quite a feat.

 

3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I’m just shocked you found an LSU fan who went to LSU…..or am I assuming?

 

1 minute ago, BachelorTrek said:

T-shirt lsu fan

Law office of four lawyers.  Two with undergrad degrees from LSU.  Both saved by South Texas College of Law (they could have been aggys).

[Huckleberry 32708]

9 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

LSU office mate has advised me that (1) outsiders view UT and aggy alumni/fans as being pretty much the same, and (2) we had better come to the SEC humbly and without ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.....  I sure hope Sark rights this ship in a hurry and that our first spin around the SEC dance floor sets him and them straight.

Tell your idiot coworker this is how it actually went:

1. Conference opponents threw horns down at Texas for decades. Texas never had a problem with it.
2. Texas got a flag for throwing the horns up during a game (Roy Williams) AT HOME.
3. Texas got a flag for throwing guns down in Lubbock (Mike Davis).
4. Texas said why the fuck is that a penalty?
5. Big 12 finally realized oh yeah that's pretty fucking hypocritical.
6. The end.

[JFKFC 4878]

13 minutes ago, Tonesky said:

ridiculous demands like horns down being a taunting penalty.

It is already SEC policy not to do an opponent's handsign:

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/tennessee_rb_john_kelly_gets_penalty_for_doing_gator_chomp/s1_127_24638983

[BabaYaga 15214]

1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

We need UT/OU logos on the Bobs

More like Baylor and/or TCU logs on this guy

And then there's KSU.....