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How many teams will be left when the dust settles in a few years? I think there's a way for all the teams to still have some involvement. I will explain that at the end of this list. Here's my list of the top 32 programs and a list if it goes to 48. There's some debate if it goes to 48, but not much debate if it stops at 32. I guess one could debate Arizona State, but that's about it. The top 32 at least come close to carrying their own weight. Everyone below that line is losing money for t

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13 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I was checking out binoculars on the internet. I haven’t really cared to check out much of the action on the field in the past decade but now I feel like they might be a good investment for home games. I’m guessing the away games are going to be tough to get into. Glad I have season tickets. Glad my family kept all 6. There were thoughts about letting go of two of them…so glad we didn’t do that.

Any recommendations on smaller binoculars?

I highly recommend these!

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You can't go wrong with the barnoculars!

 

 

 

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Aggy should abstain so the vote is 13-0 and then we can then brand it on their dog.

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9 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

Some key excerpts:

...CBS Sports spoke with several high-profile administrators who will have a direct hand in the discussions. Their conclusion is that the entire proposed structure and access to the CFP must be reevaluated, to remove the automatic bid for the Big 12, as a result of forthcoming conference realignment as triggered by the moves of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC...

 

...The 10 FBS commissioners are due to meet with the CFP Board of Managers (conference presidents) regarding expansion in September. The goal is to summarize findings after in-depth talks with athletes, coaches and administrators on their campuses. That's the next step toward finalizing a 12-team structure...

 

...However, more than one Power Five Four source told CBS Sports that the September date could be pushed back because of the SEC's actions. Complicating matters is Bowlsby's assertion that ESPN conspired with Texas, Oklahoma and the American Athletic Conference to take down his conference in realignment...

 

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9 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

You should, since we aren't getting an expanded playoff unless all the conferences vote for it.  And it appears that both the P12 and ACC are getting worried about the SEC and B1G possibly raiding them, and the B1G has to be wary about the SEC's intentions, too.  It isn't just the P12.

Jon Wilner, one of the most connected reporters in the Pac12, had a column several days ago talking about how it has long been speculated that the SEC, maybe the B1G, and ESPN could be working towards forming a premier league of maybe 30-40 something schools that would break away.  Nicole Auerbach and Andy Staples have a similar article tonight (paywalled, or I'd post it) that starts out with how Sankey was pimping a book about the English premier league formation a couple of years ago.

So you've got at least half the P5 schools concerned that they could soon get B12'ed, even some B1G schools.  Things are unlikely to go easy peasy smooth the next few months or more.

I think you are right that the other schools/conferences are going to get scared and pull back on this...which is the opposite of what they should do.

The SEC wants to expand playoffs so they can get more members included.  Give 4 automatic bids and 8 at large.  This will give the SEC which is now more top heavy than other conferences, added teams and $'s.  With the expanded SEC this is wanted/needed more than ever.

OR, the other teams can get scared and back away on the proposal and the SEC will then feel compelled to create the super league.

As LBJ said "I'd rather have him in the tent pissing out, than out of the tent pissing in."

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8 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

He had the Aggie beat when they were good. He loved them and proving he wasn't a Texas homer. Didn't vote VY for Heisman.

Oh yeah. I know. He was already hated when I walked onto campus in 1983. And that VY Heisman shit ... fuck that puto. 

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THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA July 30, 2021 AGENDA SPECIAL MEETING THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA BOARD OF REGENTS ROBERT M. BIRD LIBRARY AUDITORIUM THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA JULY 30, 2021, 9:00 A.M. NOT WITHSTANDING THAT AN ITEM MAY INDICATE FOR DISCUSSION AND/OR INFORMATION ONLY, ALL AGENDA ITEMS ARE FOR DISCUSSION AND WHATEVER FURTHER ACTION THE REGENTS DEEM NECESSARY OR ADVISABLE TO DISCHARGE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS OF GOVERNMENT INCLUDING APPROVAL, ACCEPTANCE, REJECTION, AMENDMENT, AND/OR POSTPONEMENT.

1. Call to Order

2. Item #1 - Athletics Conference Membership Discussion, consideration and potential action concerning the University of Oklahoma’s athletics conference membership. Executive Session pursuant to 25 O.S. § 307(B)(4) may be proposed for confidential communications between the Board and its attorney(s) concerning potential claims, where the Board’s attorney has determined disclosure will seriously impair the ability of the Board to process the claim(s) in the public interest as authorized under 25 O.S. § 307(B)(4)

3. Adjourn

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

So we have 366 days to blow it up so we can start membership August 1, 2022.

Let's blow this fucking conference to bits and Sark, Elliot, Vic, Beard, Reese, Pierce, etc. need to win it on their way out. 

not so fast!

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26 minutes ago, Js1 said:

So we have 366 days to blow it up so we can start membership August 1, 2022.

Let's blow this fucking conference to bits and Sark, Elliot, Vic, Beard, Reese, Pierce, etc. need to win it on their way out. 

We won the last SWC championship and the first Big 12 one. It's kind of our thing. Will Alabama be our Nebraska? 

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Hot damn, what a week. In less than seven days, we've gone from will it happen to it's happening to when is it really going to happen?

With so much to report, let's just do this rapid fire style.

1. - The Regents will meet on Friday at 9 a.m. and are expected to approve the move to SEC. Tomorrow is all about making the move official. Expect 2025 to remain the date that is mentioned in all official language until it's not. There shouldn't be any surprises on Friday. Every single step of the last seven days has been meticulously planned and executed.

2. One high-level university official indicated that once Texas and Oklahoma officially approve the move to the SEC, the lawyers for both schools will do everything possible to get out of its Big 12 contract and attempt to enter the SEC in 2022. That is the goal and our sources have indicated that they are confident that Texas and Oklahoma have a plan of attack that will allow both universities to enter the SEC next season.

3. Bob Bowlsby's current animosity toward Texas and OU could be a dynamic to watch moving forward. Getting into the SEC by the start of the 2022 will require some clever maneuvering. The easiest way for it to occur will be if the Big 12 settles with Texas and Oklahoma.

One of the things to watch closely moving forward is whether Texas and OU offer a settlement and whether Bowlsby faces pressure from the remaining eight schools to accept the deal. Is Bowlsby pulling an A&M right now, knowing that his initial harsh language will be replaced with a desire to do whatever is needed to make the most money? Or will he go out of his way to make every move Texas and Oklahoma try to make as difficult as possible? The expectation is that it will be the former, but two sources Orangebloods spoke with on Thursday indicated there is a little bit of uncertainty with a very scorned Bowlsby.

4. When asked how upset Bowlsby was, one Texas athletic department source asked me if I had seen the movie "Marriage Story." I have and my memories of the movie don't make that a happy metaphor about the divorce that is about to take place.

5. When asked about Bowlsby's stream of commentary throughout the week, one source told Orangebloods. "He's full of it. He's trying to project strength at a time when he's seen by his partners as being very weak."

6. One source stressed that no matter what you hear in the media, the absolute truth is that the remaining eight schools are examining their options. That source indicated that what typically occurs in this situation is that a non-employee associated with each school will start reaching out to other conferences to sell their program. Basically, it'll be a busy time for middle men and women in negotiations.

7. Want to hear a potential power move that has been mention this week as a worst-case scenario that would allow both schools to play as soon as 2022? Texas and Oklahoma could just tell the Big 12 to keep its TV payouts for home football games for whatever time frame is needed and just walk away. Basically, the Big 12 gets the bank account in this divorce, but Texas and Oklahoma can walk away. That isn't expected to occur, but that it has even been mentioned by sources we've spoken with is an indication of how eager the Longhorns are to get out of the Big 12 and into the SEC as soon as possible.

8. The most unlikely scenario, but one that still remains a possibility is the remaining eight Big 12 teams finding new conferences. If that happens, the Big 12 is dead, and I'm told that should release Texas and Oklahoma from any financial responsibility. This could take years to potentially unfold because the remaining Big 12 schools are not as appealing to the remaining Power 5 conferences as some media reports would suggest. Texas officials have some skepticism about whether the Big 12 simply dying will occur in time for the Longhorns to enter the SEC by 2022.

"These schools are trying to act like they have options and they don't. The more noise you hear, the less likely that what you're hearing is true," one source remarked.

9. Another source indicated Texas does not expect for LHN to exist when Texas enters the SEC. If Texas wanted to keep ‘traces’ of the LHN alive, it could have gone to the Big 12 and asked to convert LHN into the Big 12 Network, while getting assurances it would have a large percentage of live home games.

10. Another option would see ESPN converting the LHN into an SEC West Network, but that money would spread out to the entire SEC and not go directly to Texas. Keep in mind the athletic department doesn’t get all the revenue from LHN …some goes to the main campus. As it stands, ESPN is reportedly losing $15-20 million per year on rights fees and production costs with LHN. We've been told that ESPN views the situation as Texas asking to get rid of LHN, with ESPN agreeing to do so without any financial penalty.

11. Texas A&M fell into line pretty easily, as everyone projected as soon as it threw its tantrum last Wednesday. The deal was always done. All of the initial noise was theater. The Aggies have been nothing but fodder for laughs behind the scenes. Every single Texas official basically feels like A&M has never been a bigger butt of jokes than it has this week, which has made for an enjoyable experience.

"It was a cherry on top of the sundae," one official joked. "About 100 cherries."

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1 minute ago, Texasrocks said:

The right meth to mobile home mix to pay for a $40 million buyout may not be the right mix for an $80 million buyout. Shits complicated.

Watch OU reject the invitation. Won't happen, but if it's taking this long to decide I wouldn't be surprised if they have some doubts. 

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1. Call to Order

2. Item #1 - Athletics Conference Membership Discussion, consideration and potential action concerning the University of Oklahoma’s athletics conference membership. Executive Session pursuant to 25 O.S. § 307(B)(4) may be proposed for confidential communications between the Board and its attorney(s) concerning potential claims, where the Board’s attorney has determined disclosure will seriously impair the ability of the Board to process the claim(s) in the public interest as authorized under 25 O.S. § 307(B)(4)

3. Item #2 - Discussion of why OU sucks and selection of subcommittee to recommend action to minimize OU sucking, if any.

4. Adjourn

You missed the revised agenda.  I think they're getting caught up on Item #2.

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Every single Texas official basically feels like A&M has never been a bigger butt of jokes than it has this week, which has made for an enjoyable experience.

"It was a cherry on top of the sundae," one official joked. "About 100 cherries."

 

The 100 Cherry Decision

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