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47 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I don't know if CTJ's little anecdote is true or not but that reaction is going on across the state.  Individuals and institutions are having a full blown come to jesus meeting about their lot in life.  Self awareness and self reflection can be difficult for folks to process.  Harbinger of what's to come for lots of individuals and institutions outside of universities, imo.

 

And 2:30 kickoffs will be the norm for Texas and Oklahoma starting next year, praise Jesus

I prefer 11am only because a friend of mine lives in south Dallas a couples blocks from the fair and we always walk to the game. Not wanting to walk to back to his place at night. Or it should rotate every year. 11am on odd years, 2:30 on even years. 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Came into the office today, usually get in early and it's relatively empty. New chick that just graduated a few months ago from TCU is also here.

Next thing I know, she's fucking spitting fire at me about Texas" "ruining college athletics and I hope you guys lose every game in every sport for the rest of your lives! you couldn't handle losing to us every year so you grabbed your balls and went home!"

"We don't grab balls. You're thinking of the aggies. When they did that last, you fell ass backwards into this dumpster fire of a conference. You just got to take advantage of the worst decade in Texas football history and we still have a record of like 60-20 against your program. You should be thanking Texas for that last glimmer of relevance and figuring out how to help elevate the AAC to an autobid conference after it dismantles the Big 12 and hopefully, for you, grabs TCU in doing so. Regardless, you're welcome, and maybe we'll schedule y'all as a cupcake sometime in the nonconference."

Then she literally screamed at me about "not going to the fucking AAC! the SEC should be inviting us!!"

These people aren't just losing their shit online. They're also coming unhinged in-person. In any event, like TCU, I'm sure she'll be landing on her feet somewhere decent soon anyway.

Don’t let yourself be alone with her ever again. 

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12 hours ago, Bigbend1812 said:

No one cares what the Pac12 thinks about football.  

He said basically the same thing when it first came out that there were no guaranteed slots and quickly got shut up.  They will look at the dollars and his presidents will tell him to shut up again.

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good god.  okay.  let's do this.
IF YOU ARE A STUDENT, you don't get to have an 0u weekend Friday night the way we all experienced it, because you have to get up THREE HOURS EARLIER for an 11am kickoff
IF YOU ARE DRIVING IN THE DAY OF THE GAME, you have to leave THREE HOURS EARLIER for an 11am kickoff
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A WEEKEND OF IT, BRING THE WIFE, MEET UP WITH THE GUYS, WHATEVER.... you don't get to have a Friday night in Dallas because you have to get up THREE HOURS EARLIER
IF YOU WANT TO FLY IN THE MORNING OF THE GAME YOU CAN'T DO IT IF YOU LIVE ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF TOLA
Pro Tip: with a 230 kickoff, THE FAIR IS NOT A MADHOUSE AT 9AM
In addition, and i know this is rocket science, but here goes......  DART MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A VIABLE OPTION IF YOU TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF TRAINS THAT CAN INGRESS ATTENDEES ON THE DAY OF THE GAME if you kickoff at 230.   Why is that the case? because DART only has so many trains, and can only runs so many trains to Fair Park, and total DART capacity on the day of the game is cut by 70% when you kickoff THREE HOURS EARLIER.
I will cut anyone who continues to bitch about the infallible logic behind these statements of fact.

What are you implying.
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4 minutes ago, Okie State said:

11AM kickoffs suck balls for anyone going to the actual game. Completely ruins all the pregame festivities.

I'm down with 2:30 for all the reasons Hagbard listed.  But if it's 11AM.  My ass is at the fair with a beer in hand by 8AM.

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18 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

I think the ACC is waiting on ND. Once they commit to staying independent I could see them swooping up Kansas and WVU to get to 16. 

Meh, they can take WVU now and extend an offer to UConn fb who is now an independent (all sports-fb in the old Big East with Villanova/Georgetown and crew).  That would give them 16 with UConn in fb and 16 with ND in all sports-fb.

That way they project BDE as a 16 school super conference mimicking the SEC and ‘reserve’ a spot for ND fb if they ever agree to join.  Plus I saw some article that stated that they could renegotiate their TV payout which would likely get them more money,

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20 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

I prefer 11am only because a friend of mine lives in south Dallas a couples blocks from the fair and we always walk to the game. Not wanting to walk to back to his place at night. Or it should rotate every year. 11am on odd years, 2:30 on even years. 

i don't neg rep, but you are a bad person, your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad

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20 hours ago, demos said:

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Welcome to armageddon mother fuckers

This right here is why nobody should ever take anything that pinhead says seriously.

He is either A - Too stupid to understand how the world works and what is real --or--  B - So eaten-up with hatred for The University of Texas that he cannot be remotely objective.

Yes, I know, he plays to an audience.  But he also fits in with that audience very well.

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13 minutes ago, SurlyGator said:

Once ESPN owns all the SEC TV rights, I will be curious if they will choose to put the game that they suspect will pull in the most viewers in the 2:30 slot or prime time?  If the latter, I’m sure the 2:30 will get the second best matchup that week.

unless it's UT-0u which can never be played at night

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I'm down with 2:30 for all the reasons Hagbard listed.  But if it's 11AM.  My ass is at the fair with a beer in hand by 8AM.

Word.

I certainly prefer the 2:30 kicks.  But if I must adapt and have my waxcup beer and corn dog at 8 AM, then I'll do it.  I'll make that sacrifice.

For Texas, I will.

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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

all week long, everyone coast to coast has said "it's just speculation, you haven't been invited yet, it's going to take months"

when you reply "no, this is not the league, shit is not gamed out in public, and it doesn't go down this way without it having already been agreed by all parties"

to which everyone replied "then why did aggy only find out last week"

to which the only answer is "from the outside you can't understand it, from the inside you can't explain it"

.... puzzled looks on zoom .....

then move on to business

@Hagbard Celine on fire right now

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Just now, mchookem said:

my beef with 11am games, at least the past decade, is that i drown my football sorrows, so i'm drunk as shit by 2pm, passed out by 3, and hungover with a massive headache by 6pm on a saturday night! 

one of the Maryland games...my niece decided to 'drop in' unexpectedly at about 2:30pm...and found me naked in the pool unable to talk without slurring and i couldnt even explain why 😄

not my finest moment as her stalwart role model aunt 😳😜

Day drinking is the best.

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2 minutes ago, DCLonghorn said:

Bigger league with bigger marquee matchups... Scheduling for tv will get harder, not easier. Strange logic from OU.

you act like there are other games that will be competing for the new sec slate. "We can't show Texas - Florida because we are already broadcasting Kansas State - TCU." 

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2 minutes ago, DCLonghorn said:

Bigger league with bigger marquee matchups... Scheduling for tv will get harder, not easier. Strange logic from OU.

Well now ESPN has another network to throw lower tier SEC games to, the rebranded LHN now known as the SEC2 Network. Plus ESPN+ is going to get a lot of content, thus driving up subs. 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Well now ESPN has another network to throw lower tier SEC games to, the rebranded LHN now known as the SEC2 Network. Plus ESPN+ is going to get a lot of content, thus driving up subs. 

But you're kind of making the point for DCLonghorn.

Hey sooners, don't like that 11 AM national broadcast that's available to every television set in the country on ABC?

We hear you!  You're now the proud owner of the 1:30 timeslot on a streaming service that you have to pay extra for and only 14 million subscribers have it...

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Well now ESPN has another network to throw lower tier SEC games to, the rebranded LHN now known as the SEC2 Network. Plus ESPN+ is going to get a lot of content, thus driving up subs. 
No doubts... But big doubts OU will be happy with that based on their anger over Fox Big Noon game.
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1 hour ago, brojangles2 said:

I know it is in this thread 20 times, but I cant find the tweet showing the revenue with Texas at the top of all current SEC members. Someone have it saved? 

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/  This website includes everyone, not just the public schools like USA Today.  From a poster named entersandman on another board-top 75 for 2018-19.  This was a flukishly high year for FSU.  Normally they are way down the list.

001.) The University of Texas at Austin - $215,829,101
002.) Ohio State University-Main Campus - $209,102,666
003.) Florida State University - $198,407,201
004.) University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - $175,006,632
005.) University of Georgia - $174,042,482
006.) University of Notre Dame - $169,547,625
007.) The University of Alabama - $166,812,799
008.) Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus - $164,529,325
009.) Texas A & M University-College Station - $160,101,611
010.) University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus - $159,286,136

011.) Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College - $157,787,780
012.) Auburn University - $152,455,418
013.) University of Wisconsin-Madison - $151,369,153
014.) University of Louisville - $148,667,940
015.) University of Iowa - $144,070,825
016.) University of Florida - $143,627,997
017.) University of Kentucky - $143,481,480
018.) University of South Carolina-Columbia - $140,295,659
019.) University of Arkansas - $139,504,649
020.) Stanford University - $139,390,932

021.) The University of Tennessee-Knoxville - $135,818,717
022.) University of Nebraska-Lincoln - $130,313,578
023.) University of California-Los Angeles - $127,339,042
024.) University of Miami - $127,170,251
025.) Indiana University-Bloomington - $126,358,047
026.) Clemson University - $124,601,614
027.) University of Minnesota-Twin Cities - $122,667,963
028.) University of Kansas - $119,768,008
029.) University of Southern California - $118,687,120
030.) Texas Christian University - $118,496,653

031.) Michigan State University - $116,186,933
032.) University of Washington-Seattle Campus - $116,048,869
033.) Duke University - $116,021,513
034.) Northwestern University - $111,421,226
035.) Purdue University-Main Campus - $110,844,907
036.) University of Virginia-Main Campus - $108,854,006
037.) University of Maryland-College Park - $108,796,303
038.) University of Oregon - $108,500,370
039.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $105,407,867
040.) University of Arizona - $102,275,918

041.) Arizona State University-Tempe - $101,836,361
042.) Mississippi State University - $101,454,439
043.) Baylor University - $101,243,920
044.) West Virginia University - $101,095,223
045.) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - $100,156,079
046.) Syracuse University - $99,815,688
047.) University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus - $98,866,362
048.) University of Colorado Boulder - $98,413,285
049.) University of Mississippi - $96,790,426
050.) University of California-Berkeley - $94,646,123

051.) University of Missouri-Columbia - $94,612,498
052.) University of Utah - $94,177,912
053.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $92,724,547
054.) Oklahoma State University-Main Campus - $91,066,952
055.) Kansas State University - $89,919,819
056.) Texas Tech University - $86,442,709
057.) Vanderbilt University - $86,186,155
058.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $83,767,722
059.) Rutgers University-New Brunswick - $83,053,040
060.) Boston College - $82,680,712

061.) Oregon State University - $82,364,021
062.) Iowa State University - $79,860,045
063.) Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus - $79,491,714
064.) University of Connecticut - $79,100,614
065.) Wake Forest University - $76,520,111
066.) Washington State University - $75,957,792
067.) Brigham Young University-Provo - $72,622,845
068.) Southern Methodist University - $70,501,474
069.) University of Central Florida - $68,359,639
070.) University of Houston - $68,285,574

071.) Temple University - $60,004,621
072.) Colorado State University-Fort Collins - $56,081,379
073.) University of Memphis - $55,494,325
074.) University of South Florida-Main Campus - $55,103,914
075.) San Diego State University - $54,402,858

 

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6 minutes ago, mchookem said:

my beef with 11am games, at least the past decade, is that i drown my football sorrows, so i'm drunk as shit by 2pm, passed out by 3, and hungover with a massive headache by 6pm on a saturday night! 

one of the Maryland games...my niece decided to 'drop in' unexpectedly at about 2:30pm...and found me naked in the pool unable to talk without slurring and i couldnt even explain why 😄

 

Bunny!!! What's up . . . 

;)

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1 hour ago, RollLeft said:

Fk you Jay, you magnificent nerd bastard!  CDC is a salesman and every sales guy knows that the best time to make a sale is when you just made a sale.  Ride that wave CDC!  Get back to work!!!

Knowing Hartzell, this tweet actually translates to “get back to work, bitch.”

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6 minutes ago, utee94 said:

But you're kind of making the point for DCLonghorn.

Hey sooners, don't like that 11 AM national broadcast that's available to every television set in the country on ABC?

We hear you!  You're now the proud owner of the 1:30 timeslot on a streaming service that you have to pay extra for and only 14 million subscribers have it...

No, my point is the SEC2 Network and ESPN+ are going to take most of the undesirable matchups and I bet a lot of ACC content goes over to there, freeing up ESPN to have more SEC content on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, and ABC, all at the same time. OU vs. Vandy is probably an SEC Network game but OU vs. any of the helmet teams would be a featured matchup. OU will get a lot of SEC Game of the Week spots when they play other traditional helmet teams like LSU, Bama, Florida, Georgia, etc. That's not an 11am matchup. That's either 2:30 or 6pm. 

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27 minutes ago, Okie State said:

11AM kickoffs suck balls for anyone going to the actual game. Completely ruins all the pregame festivities.

So say the amateurs.
My OU pregame used to start at 7pm  Friday night on Commerce Street and usually ended around 2am Sunday morning in the Adolphus.

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8 minutes ago, bullet said:

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/  This website includes everyone, not just the public schools like USA Today.  From a poster named entersandman on another board-top 75 for 2018-19.  This was a flukishly high year for FSU.  Normally they are way down the list.

001.) The University of Texas at Austin - $215,829,101
002.) Ohio State University-Main Campus - $209,102,666
003.) Florida State University - $198,407,201
004.) University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - $175,006,632
005.) University of Georgia - $174,042,482
006.) University of Notre Dame - $169,547,625
007.) The University of Alabama - $166,812,799
008.) Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus - $164,529,325
009.) Texas A & M University-College Station - $160,101,611
010.) University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus - $159,286,136

011.) Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College - $157,787,780
012.) Auburn University - $152,455,418
013.) University of Wisconsin-Madison - $151,369,153
014.) University of Louisville - $148,667,940
015.) University of Iowa - $144,070,825
016.) University of Florida - $143,627,997
017.) University of Kentucky - $143,481,480
018.) University of South Carolina-Columbia - $140,295,659
019.) University of Arkansas - $139,504,649
020.) Stanford University - $139,390,932

021.) The University of Tennessee-Knoxville - $135,818,717
022.) University of Nebraska-Lincoln - $130,313,578
023.) University of California-Los Angeles - $127,339,042
024.) University of Miami - $127,170,251
025.) Indiana University-Bloomington - $126,358,047
026.) Clemson University - $124,601,614
027.) University of Minnesota-Twin Cities - $122,667,963
028.) University of Kansas - $119,768,008
029.) University of Southern California - $118,687,120
030.) Texas Christian University - $118,496,653

031.) Michigan State University - $116,186,933
032.) University of Washington-Seattle Campus - $116,048,869
033.) Duke University - $116,021,513
034.) Northwestern University - $111,421,226
035.) Purdue University-Main Campus - $110,844,907
036.) University of Virginia-Main Campus - $108,854,006
037.) University of Maryland-College Park - $108,796,303
038.) University of Oregon - $108,500,370
039.) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - $105,407,867
040.) University of Arizona - $102,275,918

041.) Arizona State University-Tempe - $101,836,361
042.) Mississippi State University - $101,454,439
043.) Baylor University - $101,243,920
044.) West Virginia University - $101,095,223
045.) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - $100,156,079
046.) Syracuse University - $99,815,688
047.) University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus - $98,866,362
048.) University of Colorado Boulder - $98,413,285
049.) University of Mississippi - $96,790,426
050.) University of California-Berkeley - $94,646,123

051.) University of Missouri-Columbia - $94,612,498
052.) University of Utah - $94,177,912
053.) North Carolina State University at Raleigh - $92,724,547
054.) Oklahoma State University-Main Campus - $91,066,952
055.) Kansas State University - $89,919,819
056.) Texas Tech University - $86,442,709
057.) Vanderbilt University - $86,186,155
058.) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University - $83,767,722
059.) Rutgers University-New Brunswick - $83,053,040
060.) Boston College - $82,680,712

061.) Oregon State University - $82,364,021
062.) Iowa State University - $79,860,045
063.) Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus - $79,491,714
064.) University of Connecticut - $79,100,614
065.) Wake Forest University - $76,520,111
066.) Washington State University - $75,957,792
067.) Brigham Young University-Provo - $72,622,845
068.) Southern Methodist University - $70,501,474
069.) University of Central Florida - $68,359,639
070.) University of Houston - $68,285,574

071.) Temple University - $60,004,621
072.) Colorado State University-Fort Collins - $56,081,379
073.) University of Memphis - $55,494,325
074.) University of South Florida-Main Campus - $55,103,914
075.) San Diego State University - $54,402,858

 

UConn sneaking in at #64 over Wake Forest, Wazzu, UCF, SMU and window cougar(s).

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18 minutes ago, mchookem said:

my beef with 11am games, at least the past decade, is that i drown my football sorrows, so i'm drunk as shit by 2pm, passed out by 3, and hungover with a massive headache by 6pm on a saturday night! 

one of the Maryland games...my niece decided to 'drop in' unexpectedly at about 2:30pm...and found me naked in the pool unable to talk without slurring and i couldnt even explain why 😄

not my finest moment as her stalwart role model aunt 😳😜

Pics or it didn't happen

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7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

No, my point is the SEC2 Network and ESPN+ are going to take most of the undesirable matchups and I bet a lot of ACC content goes over to there, freeing up ESPN to have more SEC content on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, and ABC, all at the same time. OU vs. Vandy is probably an SEC Network game but OU vs. any of the helmet teams would be a featured matchup. OU will get a lot of a SEC Game of the Week spots when they play other helmet teams. That's not an 11am matchup. That's either 2:30 or 6pm. 

No, it IS an 11 AM matchup, on ABC.

CBS is going away.  Disney is going to own the SEC rights.

And unless they change their policy, on ABC, the national timeslot is 11 AM.  Then they also, sometimes, have a national primetime game, but not every week.

Which is the point I continue making-- OU has only been getting the 11 AM games on ABC and Fox (national), because those are their marquee national time slots, and OU has been the best team in the B12 for the past decade.  It wasn't some conspiracy to screw the sooners.  They were being given the GOOD timeslots, as determined by the network broadcasters.

Obviously some fans don't like it, but that's why it was, the way it was.

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1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Someone should ask Kirk if he'll take less money than the other marquee game announcers the next time the next time his contract is up.  Cause he just loves the game so much.  It would be for the good of the sport.

Tech vs. aggy  better

baylor vs. pig better

TCU vs. LSU better

WVU vs. SEC east opponent usually better but neither is a rivalry

KU/KSU/ISU vs. MU/UM/MSU who cares

Okie St., well not that big a loss.

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Just now, hook me said:

So can we go back to hating OUsux now or do we still have to act like we like them until the buyout is figured out or, worse, until we actually join the SEC?


we’re gonna smile, put our arms around each other’s neck and make nice while people are watching because that’s how it works. 
Then we’re going to try and fuck OUs girlfriend.

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