Realignment talk not going away

[camel at sea 589]

17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Why wouldn’t they have Oregon in the bag with the others?

I agree it makes sense for them to want Oregon, but if that were the case it just doesn’t make sense that this wasn’t all arranged simultaneously.

Washington is tethered to Wazzu (at least that was true the last I read about it.)  Oregon will want UDub in tow and UDub needs the PAC to be wounded before they can get the state legislature to let them split from little brother.  

[VABuckeye 2472]

4 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

So you actually believe this move happens if TX/ou stay in the Big 12?

Not sure but I think it's driven more by the sinking PAC12 much like the sinking Big12 was for Texas and OU.  Face it.  The Big12 and PAC12 media deals suck and the Longhorn Network is an abomination.  If the LHN had been a huge success and money boon then do you think Texas would have bolted?

[RoyalBevo21 719]

1 minute ago, VABuckeye said:

Not sure but I think it's driven more by the sinking PAC12 much like the sinking Big12 was for Texas and OU.  Face it.  The Big12 and PAC12 media deals suck and the Longhorn Network is an abomination.  If the LHN had been a huge success and money boon then do you think Texas would have bolted?

It made the university of Texas hundreds of millions and ultimately into the sec. Was is wildly successful, no. But to call it an animation is also largely false. 

[maninblack 7974]

 

[camel at sea 589]

7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Lol, some people need their internets taken away. This makes absolutely zero sense. The new Big 12 is still a good basketball conference. KU is on deck for a landing spot if this continues. A combination of the PAC and XII would still be a good basketball conference. 

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of KU BMDs driving their bus into a ditch.  But yeah, I agree, that move makes zero sense.  

KU, KSU, ISU, OSU, Cincy, Baylor, Houston... that's a *really* good basketball conference.  It's arguably the best in the country.  Factor in the chance to add Arizona to that mix... KU leaving for the Big East would be extraordinarily dumb.   

[David Dennison 18700]

3 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

It made the university of Texas hundreds of millions and ultimately into the sec. Was is wildly successful, no. But to call it an animation is also largely false. 

The LHN made Texas lots and lots of money.

[Sandbagging Steve 982]

2 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Not sure but I think it's driven more by the sinking PAC12 much like the sinking Big12 was for Texas and OU.  Face it.  The Big12 and PAC12 media deals suck and the Longhorn Network is an abomination.  If the LHN had been a huge success and money boon then do you think Texas would have bolted?

This move is 100% a reaction to UT and OU. All the sources are even telling you that. USC and Texas were considering a PAC/Big12 merger at some point.

Money definitely played a role, but there was still more than half a decade left on the LHN deal. Texas left the Big 12 now because they were getting killed in recruiting... "SEC! SEC! SEC!" 

 

[maninblack 7974]

USC flying all the way to New Jersey to get upset by Rutgers on a random Saturday in 2 years will be hilarious though.

[RoyalBevo21 719]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

The LHN made Texas lots and lots of money.

Not to mention gave espn a platform to use as a pilot for the SEC & ACC network. Kaylee Hartung and I'm sure plenty of behind the camera people started at the LHN.

[WhatTheBuck 28721]

7 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

So you actually believe this move happens if TX/ou stay in the Big 12?

Would Texas and OU have left the Big 12 if the Big Ten hadn’t added Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers? Scoff at Maryland and Rutgers all you want but that was a lucrative move that greatly expanded their media footprint. Adding the L.A. market is going to be a pretty big deal.

I don’t know if ND is in the works but, if they did join, that would be the addition of another major brand. It would preserve their rivalry with USC. They always play some Big Ten schools. Throw in a couple service academies and BC in the non-conference schedule and their traditional scheduling remains intact. Personally, I’d.be fine without them but I’m just spitballing here.

[RoyalBevo21 719]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Would Texas and OU have left the Big 12 if the Big Ten hadn’t added Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers? Scoff at Maryland and Rutgers all you want but that was a lucrative move that greatly expanded their media footprint. Adding the L.A. market is going to be a pretty big deal.

I don’t know if ND is in the works but, if they did join, that would be the addition of another major brand. It would preserve their rivalry with USC. They always play some Big Ten schools. Throw in a couple service academies and BC in the non-conference schedule and their traditional scheduling remains intact. Personally, I’d.be fine without them but I’m just spitballing here.

B1G fans keep bringing up NYC and LA as if it's some mythical giant. Adding Rutgers and Maryland were essentially unnoticed to the rest of us. A lot of the games since they've been there haven't been competitive. 

 

Think about this, USC & UCLA just left their west coast base behind because their base doesn't care and nobody watched. I'm pretty sure UCLA puts up tarps at the Rose Bowl during their games. 

[The Tower 362]

 

[The Tower 362]

 

 

[maninblack 7974]

 

[Woodrow Call 494]

I went to UCLA, and I'm disgusted. 

[Deej 76600]

SEC needs to take advantage of the chaos and jettison aggy. 

[Valmy77 13125]

27 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

OG Big East imploding out front shoulda told ya.

serious question though, how many eyeballs does Kansas bring?

Back before the LHN their basketball network meant they had the most TV revenue in the Big 12. As for now I don't know.

['stache 21778]

1 minute ago, Deej said:

SEC needs to take advantage of the chaos and jettison aggy. 

Nope. They're yours, all yours, forever and ever and ever and ever...

[Rickylovesweed 14163]

Notice how the Big 10 was able to get this completely done behind the scenes and the SEC couldn't before the vote because aggy was too big of bitch to keep it quiet. 

[Steelers Roll Left 1142]

As this develops, I’ve always wondered if some conferences might consider “shedding” dead weight to add better programs, increase their prestige and thus broadcast revenue, while not continuing to add more schools than they can schedule for?

[Deej 76600]

23 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

If Texas had a halfway competent football program then the LHN would have been a huge success and money boon

fify

[WhatTheBuck 28721]

6 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

B1G fans keep bringing up NYC and LA as if it's some mythical giant. Adding Rutgers and Maryland were essentially unnoticed to the rest of us. A lot of the games since they've been there haven't been competitive. 

It doesn’t matter if you noticed. It made B1G schools a lot more money. MD and Rutgers aren’t full partners yet but the rest of the schools are getting $51 Million each from the current tv deals. That will go up in the future with the addition of the L.A. market. Not sure how that’s lost on you.

Meanwhile there was no Big 12 network, the conference is collapsing, LHN will die, and Texas is chasing A&M to the SEC. 

[Deej 76600]

1 hour ago, FartingDreamer said:

Auburn coeds are fucking smoke.  They dress slutty too.  

Their dads say they dress slutty the best. 

 

[Deej 76600]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Texas is chasing A&M to the SEC. 

[David Dennison 18700]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It doesn’t matter if you noticed. It made B1G schools a lot more money. MD and Rutgers aren’t full partners yet but the rest of the schools are getting $51 Million each from the current tv deals. That will go up in the future with the addition of the L.A. market. Not sure how that’s lost on you.

Meanwhile there was no Big 12 network, the conference is collapsing, LHN will die, and Texas is chasing A&M to the SEC. 

And making lots and lots of money.

[Left Coast 863]

43 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

So UCLA cut ties trying to get out from under the flagship just like aggy...smart move.

Except unlike aggy, UCLA is better than the “flagship” across virtually every sport.

[Fastbreak 3959]

College sports are getting less appealing to me every day.

When everything is driven by money it ruins the product, no matter what the product is.

[Sbbruin 21782]

I went to UCLA, and I'm disgusted. 

So am I, but it was either do this or whither and die.

[BigEhorn 9]

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Edited July 1, 2022 by BigEhorn
screw up

[4th&Five 41463]

Just now, Fastbreak said:

College sports are getting less appealing to me every day.

When everything is driven by money it ruins the product, no matter what the product is.

NFL 2.0 very soon. We already have free agency. 

[dcar00 14044]

3 minutes ago, Left Coast said:

Except unlike aggy, UCLA is better than the “flagship” across virtually every sport.

they are still running away from big brother...

[Horn80 6081]

54 minutes ago, nunna yo bizness said:

Damn, Salma Hayek is looking rough these days.

Not “in my dreams” dude……

[closetohumping 17409]

36 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Not sure but I think it's driven more by the sinking PAC12 much like the sinking Big12 was for Texas and OU.  Face it.  The Big12 and PAC12 media deals suck and the Longhorn Network is an abomination.  If the LHN had been a huge success and money boon then do you think Texas would have bolted?

Yes.  I think Texas would’ve left when the time was right

['stache 21778]

2 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

College sports are getting less appealing to me every day.

When everything is driven by money it ruins the product, no matter what the product is.

What sports do you still enjoy? The highest levels have been money driven for a while. I’m a big fan of our local amateur NPSL soccer team. Cheap beer, seats right by the action, I thoroughly enjoy it, but I admit I don’t get super emotionally tied to it like OSU or my NFL team games in tv.

[Francisco 2.0 32347]

30 minutes ago, maninblack said:

USC flying all the way to New Jersey to get upset by Rutgers on a random Saturday in 2 years will be hilarious though.

 

Or a ranked USC traveling to Hoth to face the Badgers in a late November blizzard.

[dcar00 14044]

30 minutes ago, maninblack said:

USC flying all the way to New Jersey to get upset by Rutgers on a random Saturday in 2 years will be hilarious though.

my guess is the Big 10 schedule with 24 teams means USC will play at Rutgers in 2046

[MAUFRAIS 6586]

I was going to say that Indiana finally gets to go to the Rose Bowl but fact checked myself and see they played in it in 1968. Will be good to go back, though, I’m sure.

[Horn80 6081]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

What sports do you still enjoy? The highest levels have been money driven for a while. I’m a big fan of our local amateur NPSL soccer team. Cheap beer, seats right by the action, I thoroughly enjoy it, but I admit I don’t get super emotionally tied to it like OSU or my NFL team games in tv.

Something tells me your best restaurant in town is loaded with flies.

[LTbear 4161]

No idea if credible, but probably anyone could say it and be assured its true:

 

[Tex-19 2869]

23 minutes ago, Woodrow Call said:

I went to UCLA, and I'm disgusted. 

Yeah this is objectively way worse that TX/OU going to the sec. Culturally, geographically, everything. 

[Deej 76600]

Nebraska:

[Auto Driller 2504]

If conferences reach 20 teams then what does it even mean to be a “member” of that conference? You play 5-6 opponents yearly, and then rotate 3 opponents? So you end up playing your “conference mates” every 4-5 years? Kinda sounds like the out of conference scheduling agreements we have now. 
 

I get that it’s ultimately about TV contracts and money but the whole thing seems dumb.

[Tex-19 2869]

3 minutes ago, LTbear said:

No idea if credible, but probably anyone could say it and be assured its true:

 

It’s Twitter silly season again. Be careful out there. 

[dcar00 14044]

this just in Gonzaga, Boise State, Wyoming, Utah State, and Grand Canyon have applied to the Big 10.  Good extracurriculars but may not have the SAT score to make the cut.

[dcar00 14044]

2 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

If conferences reach 20 teams then what does it even mean to be a “member” of that conference? You play 5-6 opponents yearly, and then rotate 3 opponents? So you end up playing your “conference mates” every 4-5 years? Kinda sounds like the out of conference scheduling agreements we have now. 
 

I get that it’s ultimately about TV contracts and money but the whole thing seems dumb.

the SEC will have the SWC division, Florida Division, Dixie Division and Others

[Steelers Roll Left 1142]

1 minute ago, Auto Driller said:

If conferences reach 20 teams then what does it even mean to be a “member” of that conference? You play 5-6 opponents yearly, and then rotate 3 opponents? So you end up playing your “conference mates” every 4-5 years? Kinda sounds like the out of conference scheduling agreements we have now. 
 

I get that it’s ultimately about TV contracts and money but the whole thing seems dumb.

The obvious answer would be more teams per conference…..more games on the schedule.  Has always been a lot of resistance increasing # of games, but perhaps NIL puts that on the table now

[gmr548 16535]

4 hours ago, mdmost said:

I'm chuckling at the thought of USC fans having to watch those Fox Big 9 AM games when USC travels to Michigan. 

I can't imagine either alumni/fan base being super thrilled, to be honest.

[dcar00 14044]

Just now, Steelers Roll Left said:

The obvious answer would be more teams per conference…..more games on the schedule.  Has always been a lot of resistance increasing # of games, but perhaps NIL puts that on the table now

and then the Nucular Bomb.....Players Union.

[BigEhorn 9]

 

[Deej 76600]

Of the SEC goes to 20 or more teams, aggy will be lobbying to play Texas every 16 years.