Realignment talk not going away

['stache 21,801]

19 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

I would understand the ABOR refusing to let Arizona leave if ASU were going to be left with nowhere to go. I don't understand them making Arizona stay when ASU is free to come with them.

If ASU admin wants to stay, let them stay. The concern should be asu being “left behind,” but if it’s their choice, they’re not left behind, because they have an invite and choose to decline.

[Josef Pwag 1,738]

1 minute ago, Dutch said:

@Al_4_ISU?

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

 

[TrashMaster G 17,551]

48 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

As opposed to being figuratively an Iowa State alum?

[bullet 1,596]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Boom!

[Frank Drebin 5,662]

Rather them be Big 10 than Big 12.  So good.

USC probably not too happy with Oregon add.

If Big 10 was smart, it would process Maryland and Rutgers.

[bullet 1,596]

Figured the other 3 would go to the Big 12 before the Big 10 got around to getting their deal together.

[closetohumping 17,437]

2 minutes ago, bullet said:

Boom!

Welp

[Horn of Gabriel 1,614]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Rather them be Big 10 than Big 12.  So good.

USC probably not too happy with Oregon add.

If Big 10 was smart, it would process Maryland and Rutgers.

In the modern realignment era have schools been processed out?  Seems like the new way to do that is for the biggest fish to break away and leave the small fish in the carcass of the old conference.

[LTtxfan 49,150]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Rather them be Big 10 than Big 12.  So good. USC probably not too happy with Oregon add. If Big 10 was smart, it would process Maryland and Rutgers.

Nope...Can't make DC folks mad

[The Ace of Aces 5,175]

I live in Big 10 country. I’m stoked to watch Oregon come here and beat the hell out of Penn State. 

I forget: What happens to Stanford and Cal?

Edited August 4, 2023 by The Ace of Aces

['stache 21,801]

Could the ACC take just Stanford and Cal or would that reopen the contract and void the long term chain attached til 2036? Or, could they reach a ND type scheduling agreement so Stanford and Cal would be independent but fill part of its schedule with the ACC? Can the Cal board of Regents make UCLA play Cal every year for another spot?

Edited August 4, 2023 by 'stache

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Could the ACC take just Stanford and Cal or would that reopen the contract and void the long term chain attached til 2036? Or, could they reach a ND type scheduling agreement so Stanford and Cal would be independent but fill part of its schedule with the ACC? Can the Cal board of Regents make UCLA play Cal every year for another spot?

I don't think Stanford and Cal really bring anything to the ACC.

[Js1 85,300]

2 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

In the modern realignment era have schools been processed out?  Seems like the new way to do that is for the biggest fish to break away and leave the small fish in the carcass of the old conference.

Every conference needs shit like Rutgers, Maryland, Miss St, etc to pad win totals 

[Saint Austin 745]

2 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I live in Big 10 country. I’m stoked to watch Oregon come here and beat the hell out of Penn State. 

I forget: What happens to Stanford and Cal?

[Sandman 3,403]

Oregon, Washington to Join Big Ten, Leave Pac-12 (actionnetwork.com)

 

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Oregon and Washington will not immediately receive full shares in the Big Ten’s new media rights deal with FOX, CBS and NBC but will still make more than they would have by remaining in the Pac-12, sources said.

 

[Vertigo 20,276]

2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Rather them be Big 10 than Big 12.  So good.

USC probably not too happy with Oregon add.

If Big 10 was smart, it would process Maryland and Rutgers.

At some point, some culling will need to happen for the biggest conferences to continue to expand with top brands. If the critical mass number is 20, and a school like Florida State, Notre Dame, Stanford, UNC, etc want in, then I could see the B1G or SEC looking at it's membership and booting out some chaff. They could choose to not renew a GOR for a school during a negotiation window. A school like Vandy, or Rutgers could be put on the chopping block to make way for another strong brand. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,547]

Welp, that should do it for the Pac. We should take what's left in the wreath fund and pay their leftovers to start streaming their games on Surly. Servers can handle the 12 people who will actually tune in, right?

But man... that 18 team conference seems unwieldy. 16 seems about the biggest you could go and still seem like you were anything more than a group of schools just sharing a TV contract.

The USC folks have to be pissed about this. Not quite A&M-level pissed when Texas joined the SEC, but Oregon going B1G is going to raise the price of poker for recruiting in California. I don't like it for Texas, either, if we're going that route.

[Jasper_Jester 356]

If Stanford ends up out of a prestige conference does that help us win more Director's Cups?(!)

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

And so on brand

 

['stache 21,801]

I was hoping the XII could get UO and UW but if they really meet Big standards, it’s probably best they join now, get four corners to XII, WSU and ORST to MWC, and Stanford and Cal go independent.

[dogfarts 45]

In the modern realignment era have schools been processed out?  Seems like the new way to do that is for the biggest fish to break away and leave the small fish in the carcass of the old conference.

That’s the next round when the powers of these soon to be massive conferences start strategically splitting off leaving the dead weight behind.

[Jasper_Jester 356]

I still opine that the 4 corner schools lower the average value of the Big12, but it's your conference now guys, you do you. At least you don't have to worry about three of the four schools challenging for any championships for a while.

[bolverk 29,659]

"Who cares? We're rich now."

[gatormarc 911]

10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Could the ACC take just Stanford and Cal or would that reopen the contract and void the long term chain attached til 2036? Or, could they reach a ND type scheduling agreement so Stanford and Cal would be independent but fill part of its schedule with the ACC? Can the Cal board of Regents make UCLA play Cal every year for another spot?

There's a clause in the GoR that states that new members must sign on to the existing GoR.

[LTtxfan 49,150]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

get four corners to XII, WSU and ORST to MWC, and Stanford and Cal go independent.

HaHaHaHa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Al_4_ISU 12,454]

[mention=1238]Al_4_ISU[/mention]?

I thought there was a possibility my old man and him were there at the same time, but it looks like Crow graduated a few months before the old man got on campus.

[closetohumping 17,437]

Maybe the big 12 turned oregon and Washington down?

[Dutch 4,465]

23 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

 

[LTtxfan 49,150]

Hello Beavers and Wazzu...

The Mountain West currently has a linear television deal with FOX and CBS Sports Network with additional games on CBS through the 2025 season. Another possibility for the Mountain West, depending on how many schools are remaining in the Pac-12, could be a merger of some type between the two leagues, a source said.

[Al_4_ISU 12,454]

As opposed to being figuratively an Iowa State alum?

My cousin, a Canadian national who got his undegrad up there, but is a huge Cyclone fan, has spent countless game weekends in Ames and even attended classes with me while visiting, has joked that he’s a figurative/honorary alum

[bolverk 29,659]

nm

Edited August 4, 2023 by bolverk

[Jasper_Jester 356]

I think Stanford could make a go as a football independent. I don't see how Cal could. 

Cal should consider cutting spending, joining the Mountain West and using the UCLA payments to pay down their stadium debt.

[Magus Ossis 2,797]

20 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Rather them be Big 10 than Big 12.  So good.

USC probably not too happy with Oregon add.

If Big 10 was smart, it would process Maryland and Rutgers.

I'm sure USC is going to feel like the aliens in ID4 when Russell Casse (Oregon) shows up saying "I'm back!" I for one am glad that the Ducks won't have regular conference games in Texas to help their Nike player shopping in our neighborhood.

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

[BachelorTrek 2,967]

5 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

My cousin, a Canadian national who got his undegrad up there, but is a huge Cyclone fan, has spent countless game weekends in Ames and even attended classes with me while visiting, has joked that he’s a figurative/honorary alum

That's called a "T-shirt fan."

[89Horn 1,514]

1 minute ago, Jasper_Jester said:

I think Stanford could make a go as a football independent. I don't see how Cal could. 

Cal should consider cutting spending, joining the Mountain West and using the UCLA payments to pay down their stadium debt.

So Cal and Stanford went from turning their noses up at Big 12 schools joining the PAC to now joining the Mountain West as an option?  

[chase25 2,048]

I think it would be funny if the Big 12 went and got Washington State, Oregon State, and Arizona while ASU and Utah got hung out to dry. 

Probably won’t happen but boy if it did it would be hilarious

[LTtxfan 49,150]

Just now, Jasper_Jester said:

I think Stanford could make a go as a football independent. I don't see how Cal could.  Cal should consider cutting spending, joining the Mountain West and using the UCLA payments to pay down their stadium debt.

Agree... Stanford and Cal don't belong in the B10 for football.  Stanford going independent can still focus their efforts on Olympic sports along with basketball & baseball. 

 

[John80 157]

I cant see how any Big Ten fan could be excited about adding schools that aren't Notre Dame and aren't in a good recruiting area.

[Al_4_ISU 12,454]

I’m definitely concerned the SEC will feel the need to add a couple Big 12 schools that don’t really make financial sense just to keep up appearances

[Deej 76,757]

6 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Hello Beavers and Wazzu...

The Mountain West currently has a linear television deal with FOX and CBS Sports Network with additional games on CBS through the 2025 season. Another possibility for the Mountain West, depending on how many schools are remaining in the Pac-12, could be a merger of some type between the two leagues, a source said.

Mountain West: "You Pac 12 guys aren't getting full shares."

[BachelorTrek 2,967]

1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

So Cal and Stanford went from turning their noses up at Big 12 schools joining the PAC to now joining the Mountain West as an option?  

OR they could join the WAC.  Lulz.

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’m definitely concerned the SEC will feel the need to add a couple Big 12 schools that don’t really make financial sense just to keep up appearances

IMO this puts the SEC in better contention for a school like ND.  

[NCMountaineer 100]

17 hours ago, Jasper_Jester said:

West Virginia is going to pick their own rival, thank you very much. 

You will find out who that is when they start screaming at them.

hey, I apologized for all that a while back... the moonshine just hits different sometimes

[Vertigo 20,276]

2 minutes ago, chase25 said:

I think it would be funny if the Big 12 went and got Washington State, Oregon State, and Arizona while ASU and Utah got hung out to dry. 

Probably won’t happen but boy if it did it would be hilarious

If Yormark was smart, he would take Arizona now, and then bide his time for the ACC implosion and leave 4 spots open there. 

['stache 21,801]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’m definitely concerned the SEC will feel the need to add a couple Big 12 schools that don’t really make financial sense just to keep up appearances

Nah, they’ll wait out the ACC. I think we’ll be at a solid 16 without much worry finally.

[Jasper_Jester 356]

2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’m definitely concerned the SEC will feel the need to add a couple Big 12 schools that don’t really make financial sense just to keep up appearances

Sort of an "everyone else is eating tide pods" situation? 

[LTtxfan 49,150]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I’m definitely concerned the SEC will feel the need to add a couple Big 12 schools that don’t really make financial sense just to keep up appearances

HaHaHaHa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Deej 76,757]

20 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Welp, that should do it for the Pac. We should take what's left in the wreath fund and pay their leftovers to start streaming their games on Surly. Servers can handle the 12 people who will actually tune in, right?