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Just had a non-thunderstorm wind gust of 92 mph roll through NE Montana about 45 minutes ago. Wind is still howling 60-70 mph. 

This is becoming more and more common. Not sure if my wooden fence is gonna survive this time. I won't know until sunrise, though, because the power is out.

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36 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Winter has been gray and brown and damp and “bleh.”  If you wanted to film a post apocalyptic movie, just come to eastern South Dakota.

Nah, if wanted to live in that again I would go back to Kabul. At least you can see the women's ankles.

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10 hours ago, Parliament said:

Winter has been gray and brown and damp and “bleh.”  If you wanted to film a post apocalyptic movie, just come to eastern South Dakota.

This has been northeast Iowa, minus the "damp" part.  It's going to be 40 on Friday, and -4 (for the high) a week from today.  Fun, fun stuff.

And of course, there isn't any fucking snow so all this is doing is driving the frost line deeper and deeper so all the roads are going to be a god damn disaster come March.

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17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It’s fucking cold

And the dog decides to have 6am diarrhea and force a trip outside while it’s -6, then cries bc it’s too cold for him to walk back inside 

Snow/extreme cold or thunderstorms/rain - the ideal time for a dog to get diarrhea, apparently  

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1 minute ago, Shoxthemonkey said:

And I've never needed one and could have used it 3 times already.

I don't know that I've ever really "needed" one.  I shoveled my last driveway by hand for years, but my mom gave me one for Xmas 5-6 years ago after a snowier than normal winter, and 3 out of the last 4 winters I've hardly touched it.

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So Northeast Kingdom Vermont, at least my neck of the woods was spared much of anything. At best, we got an inch of snow, really more of a dusting. All of the footprints and tire tracks are smoothed out, but very much still there.

Back home in Boston - we did get a good amount, easily 4". Kind of a PITA as I am going to have to wait until tonight to dig my place out. Hopefully won't be there much later than 6 tonight.

 

On the snowblower chat ...

9 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've run the snow blower once this season and I probably didn't need to.  It would have melted a week later.  Such a weird winter.

 

5 minutes ago, Shoxthemonkey said:

And I've never needed one and could have used it 3 times already.

 

IMHO it really depends on what you have to shovel. When it was just a few walk ways and sidewalks I dealt with just shoveling. But now that I have this driveway that has a 7' wall on one side, I appreciate the blower to toss everything out of the driveway. Granted, I do only use it when we have a lot of snow, like 4" or more.

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I will say this - if you didn't have a snowblower before and decide to go that route - DO NOT CHEAP OUT. I got a cheap shitty Chinese made Craftsman, I've blown the transfer case on that thing twice. The transfer case was poorly machined and let the innards bounce, it caused one of the worm gear to shred itself twice and one of bushings to wear unevenly. I will be replacing it soon and I will be spending a little more this year.

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37 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've run the snow blower once this season and I probably didn't need to.  It would have melted a week later.  Such a weird winter.

I haven't used mine at all, just shoveled once.  Last year I didn't use it until March.  2022/2023 was record snow though.  You never know.

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17 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I haven't used mine at all, just shoveled once.  Last year I didn't use it until March.  2022/2023 was record snow though.  You never know.

It was for you.  We didn't get shit.

My brother lives in the Highland Park area of St Paul and he was XC skiing at that golf course they groom every day, and I think I went out twice that year.  Crazy how different weather patterns can be 150 miles apart.

12 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

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I sweater god they go slower once the temperature drops below freezing.

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46 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

So Northeast Kingdom Vermont, at least my neck of the woods was spared much of anything. At best, we got an inch of snow, really more of a dusting. All of the footprints and tire tracks are smoothed out, but very much still there.

Back home in Boston - we did get a good amount, easily 4". Kind of a PITA as I am going to have to wait until tonight to dig my place out. Hopefully won't be there much later than 6 tonight.

 

On the snowblower chat ...

 

 

IMHO it really depends on what you have to shovel. When it was just a few walk ways and sidewalks I dealt with just shoveling. But now that I have this driveway that has a 7' wall on one side, I appreciate the blower to toss everything out of the driveway. Granted, I do only use it when we have a lot of snow, like 4" or more.

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I will say this - if you didn't have a snowblower before and decide to go that route - DO NOT CHEAP OUT. I got a cheap shitty Chinese made Craftsman, I've blown the transfer case on that thing twice. The transfer case was poorly machined and let the innards bounce, it caused one of the worm gear to shred itself twice and one of bushings to wear unevenly. I will be replacing it soon and I will be spending a little more this year.

I think the kind of snow and typical amounts matters a lot too.  I know in the NE you guys get really wet heavy snow, and those noreasters can dump a metric fuck ton of it.  As far inland as I am, we get pretty dry in the winter and 4-6" is a big snow any more.  A lot of times that falls as a cold front is blowing in, so that snow is lighter and fluffier.

We get the wet heavy shit in high amounts when the temperature crashes from 65 to 25 in a few hours during March and April.  The good part there is that often times there will be above freezing temps in the next few days that take some of the pressure off of home snow removal.

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7 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

As far inland as I am, we get pretty dry in the winter and 4-6" is a big snow any more.

Let me know if anyone ever accuses you of being a bot, so I can have your back. Your use of "anymore" instead of "nowadays" is a giveaway that you're a real, live Midwesterner.

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Just now, bolverk said:

Let me know if anyone ever accuses you of being a bot, so I can have your back. Your use of "anymore" instead of "nowadays" is a giveaway that you're a real, live Midwesterner.

I didn't even know that was a thing.

Ope!

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7 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I didn't even know that was a thing.

Ope!

I first noticed it when I met my birthmother from Ohio several years ago when I was in my early 30s. It sounded so odd to my ear that I actually looked it up, and it turned out to be mostly a quirky Midwestern usage. That's not a criticism either because I like variety in accents and dialects. It makes language fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore

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43 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I first noticed it when I met my birthmother from Ohio several years ago when I was in my early 30s. It sounded so odd to my ear that I actually looked it up, and it turned out to be mostly a quirky Midwestern usage. That's not a criticism either because I like variety in accents and dialects. It makes language fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore

Oh, I agree completely.  I actively avoid shedding my accent and linguistic quirks.  The world's boring when everything is the same.

But alas, I'm not sure I would consider your birthmother a fellow Midwesterner.  One of my personal hills to die on is "Ohio isn't in the Midwest", although I realize I'm not exactly in the majority on that one.

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21 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Oh, I agree completely.  I actively avoid shedding my accent and linguistic quirks.  The world's boring when everything is the same.

But alas, I'm not sure I would consider your birthmother a fellow Midwesterner.  One of my personal hills to die on is "Ohio isn't in the Midwest", although I realize I'm not exactly in the majority on that one.

I could see how some would leave them out, especially NE Ohio around Cleveland or SE Ohio next to (or part of) Appalachia. Except she's in Dayton, about a half-hour east of the Indiana state line. Plus, she was telling me recently about how she and her neighbors had a "Mexican" potluck dinner where she served a "Mexican" corn casserole of some sort involving mayo.

She's very Midwestern.

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5 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I could see how some would leave them out, especially NE Ohio around Cleveland or SE Ohio next to (or part of) Appalachia. Except she's in Dayton, about a half-hour east of the Indiana state line. Plus, she was telling me recently about how she and her neighbors had a "Mexican" potluck dinner where she served a "Mexican" corn casserole of some sort involving mayo.

She's very Midwestern.

Yeah, that's Midwestern as fuck.

I think the western parts fits culturally for sure.  Plus, the Midwest is a massive place and it isn't monolithic.  You've got the Rust Belt, Northwoods/Great Lakes, and Plains that are all pretty distinct from each other.  Even most Okies think of themselves as Midwestern per a recent study of self-identification (which I agree with RE certain parts of the state).  The Midwest is a big, weird place.

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9 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Yeah, that's Midwestern as fuck.

I think the western parts fits culturally for sure.  Plus, the Midwest is a massive place and it isn't monolithic.  You've got the Rust Belt, Northwoods/Great Lakes, and Plains that are all pretty distinct from each other.  Even most Okies think of themselves as Midwestern per a recent study of self-identification (which I agree with RE certain parts of the state).  The Midwest is a big, weird place.

Oh, I agree, absolutely. I've done projects up in both OKC and Tulsa and was surprised when people mentioned a self-identification with the Midwest (Big 8, yo), as opposed to the Southwest, the Sun Belt, or the South. Hell, when visiting my sister (who now says "pop") in Denver, I've also heard people say they thought of themselves as Midwesterners. It's a vast expanse that, of course, needs to be broken up into regions to pick up all the various flavors... (edit) or lack thereof, if we're being honest.

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3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Oh, I agree, absolutely. I've done projects up in both OKC and Tulsa and was surprised when people mentioned a self-identification with the Midwest (Big 8, yo), as opposed to the Southwest, the Sun Belt, or the South. Hell, when visiting my sister (who now says "pop") in Denver, I've also heard people say they thought of themselves as Midwesterners. It's a vast expanse that, of course, needs to be broken up into regions to pick up all the various flavors... (edit) or lack thereof, if we're being honest.

I have family in Tulsa, and they're very quick to ID with the Midwest over the South or Southwest.  But I totally see it.  Tulsa is a lot more like KC, Omaha, Wichita, Des Moines than it is Memphis, Little Rock, NOLA, Birmingham or Tucson and Albuquerque.  Go about 30 miles south of there en route to Dallas?  That's the fuckin' South.

In the study I was referencing, there was a surprising amount of Coloradans that ID'd as Midwestern (although the far eastern part is indistinguishable from western NE or KS).  Over half of Wyomingites too.

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3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I have family in Tulsa, and they're very quick to ID with the Midwest over the South or Southwest.  But I totally see it.  Tulsa is a lot more like KC, Omaha, Wichita, Des Moines than it is Memphis, Little Rock, NOLA, Birmingham or Tucson and Albuquerque.  Go about 30 miles south of there en route to Dallas?  That's the fuckin' South.

In the study I was referencing, there was a surprising amount of Coloradans that ID'd as Midwestern (although the far eastern part is indistinguishable from western NE or KS).  Over half of Wyomingites too.

This came out several years ago and might be the study you're referencing:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

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3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

This came out several years ago and might be the study you're referencing:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

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This is the one, but it lines up similarly.

https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/ope-didnt-count-you-new-study-asks-who-exactly-lives-in-the-midwest/

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My initial take away from this was "who are the 3.3% of Iowans who don't think they live in the Midwest?"

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11 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I thought the same thing about Minnesotans, but concluded that the 3% probably differentiate themselves as "Upper-Midwest" with the remaining .5% distinguishing themselves as "Great lakes" or "Great Plains".

I figured it was just "northern".  I've seen an increase in "north" branded stuff in Minnesota and northern Wisconsin recently.  Really leaning into the lake/northwoods culture.

I was surprised that Missouri was ahead of Illinois and Wisconsin.  A lot of people in non-Missouri Midwestern states try to pass them as the South.  Obviously they don't see themselves that way.

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