Dear Texas, we need to have a conversation about Louie Gohmert

[pyrohornIII 4844]

Sorry, HIPAA.   I knew that didn't look right, but was too lazy to double check.  

I still think the little garden gnome is faking though.

 

[Gatorubet 30631]

“How can I be dumber? Think Louis, THINK!!”

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20834]

 

[RPM 26560]

This asshat assembled his entire staff (without a mask) into a room and announced (without a mask) that he tested positive for COVID-19.

[UncleSonny 6790]

👀

[Bama Chick 28596]

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

On July 30, 2020 at 2:23 PM, RDCanecutter said:

Milariel is a hoax. They're counting everything as an elf whether it's an orc, a hobbit, or even an ent.

I think you're just trolling. 

[Gil Bang 26176]

 

[Foosters 18225]

[27-25 2082]

3 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Is that a side effect of Hydroxychloroquine use?

[Shaddie 1684]

2 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Is that a side effect of Hydroxychloroquine use?

Wife said she read that was a new side effect of COVID. Not joking.  

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13619]

GOH!

[Bookman 4754]

At least now he looks more like his constituency.

[Burt 4114]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

JFC, I can't even....

as bad as the kooky MTG Q Congresswoman is, can we get this old white man from East Texas to shut up?

 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

12 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

JFC, I can't even....

as bad as the kooky MTG Q Congresswoman is, can we get this old white man from East Texas to shut up?

 

Yeah, seems like he should be put out to pasture.

[pyrohornIII 4844]

On 7/31/2020 at 12:53 AM, Gatorubet said:

“How can I be dumber? Think Louis, THINK!!”

He got there.  Eventually.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pence-louis-gohmert-lawsuit-tossed-out_n_5feffffcc5b6fd33110e0652

Federal Judge Tosses Rep. Louie Gohmert’s Suit Against Pence To Overturn Election

The Texas lawmaker hinted that he now thinks the only recourse to Trump’s presidential loss is violence.

Gohmert said he is appealing to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, Politico reported.

The Justice Department had argued on Pence’s behalf to dismiss the suit, saying Gohmert should have sued the House or Senate if he had issues with how electoral votes are handled.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

What's absurd about this whole thing is that it was clearly cooked up by the Arizona GOP.  

Then some genius asked where they thought it could be venued with the highest chance of getting a favorable judge, and the answer became the Tyler Division of the Eastern District of Texas.  So they added Gomer on just to try to create some connection to the venue, despite the fact that he doesn't live in the Division.**

As stupid as the whole thing was, I don't think for a minute that it was "Louie's lawsuit."  I don't think he's directing any aspect of it.

**I thought Kernodle was in the Plano Division, since he was a Dallas lawyer before taking the bench.  The judges on the Eastern District move around a little, but the Tyler Division has two, both Trump appointees.

Edited January 2, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What's absurd about this whole thing is that it was clearly cooked up by the Arizona GOP.  

Then some genius asked where they thought it could be venued with the highest chance of getting a favorable judge, and the answer became the Plano Division of the Eastern District of Texas.  So they added Gomer on just to try to create some connection to the venue, despite the fact that he doesn't live in the Division.

As stupid as the whole thing was, I don't think for a minute that it was "Louie's lawsuit."  I don't think he's directing any aspect of it.

It may not be his 'lawsuit' but he's the one giving interviews suggesting people take to the streets four days before the Proud Boys are due in DC. I say he owns his sedition and should be removed from office for it.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

Just now, Mrs Whiggins said:

It may not be his 'lawsuit' but he's the one giving interviews suggesting people take to the streets four days before the Proud Boys are due in DC. I say he owns his sedition and should be removed from office for it.

No doubt.  He's a moron and an embarrassment.  The embodiment of aggy.

[Chad Fuck 18090]

He isn’t going away until he wants to though. Wins his district by 20-30 points. This isn’t a Gohmert problem, it’s an East Texas is full of idoits problem.

[pyrohornIII 4844]

3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

He isn’t going away until he wants to though. Wins his district by 20-30 points. This isn’t a Gohmert problem, it’s an East Texas is full of idoits problem.

Also a failure of Democratic messaging for rural counties, country wide.  They keep thinking they can win on urban vote alone.

[Biff Tannen 46061]

10 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

Also a failure of Democratic messaging for rural counties, country wide.  They keep thinking they can win on urban vote alone.

Kinda hard to penetrate a cult.

[956 Worldwide 35516]

1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

Also a failure of Democratic messaging for rural counties, country wide.  They keep thinking they can win on urban vote alone.

There’s rural voters, and there are Pine Curtain rural voters.  Louie Gomer is an East Texas moderate in comparison with his constituents. 

[elfenix 34658]

hey louie:

 

[henrygandorf 29219]

6 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

JFC, I can't even....

as bad as the kooky MTG Q Congresswoman is, can we get this old white man from East Texas to shut up?

 

can't wait until the inevitable comparisons from the right.

because taking to the streets to protest mistreatment of minorities by the police is the same thing as having the sads because my guy didn't win the election.

=/=

[elfenix 34658]

4 minutes ago, elfenix said:

hey louie:

 

doing a little googling it was 10 senators in 1861 and 4 more in 1862

[tchookem 3965]

can't wait until the inevitable comparisons from the right.
because taking to the streets to protest mistreatment of minorities by the police is the same thing as having the sads because my guy didn't win the election.
=/=

I'm anticipating the same thing. I'm going to label it state-sanctioned murder, "mistreatment of minorities" is being too kind and gives too much wiggle room.

[Biff Tannen 46061]

9 minutes ago, elfenix said:

hey louie:

 

Do I think we have the stones to do this now?  No I do not. 

[Chad Fuck 18090]

4 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Also a failure of Democratic messaging for rural counties, country wide.  They keep thinking they can win on urban vote alone.

^Maybe, but a lot more of this:

3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Kinda hard to penetrate a cult.

I grew up out there.  People's identities are all wrapped up in being "conservative."  "We ain't like you librul city folks."  And they'd cut their nose off their faces a thousand times and hand it to you to show you their commitment.  

It'll take more than "messaging." It'll take a full brainwash deprogramming, but the Democratic party is not up to that and you can't expect people to give up what everyone they've ever been close to confirms for them - that they're in the right.  

Last four years shoulda toldja.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

That's a shame.  Who has the current lawsuit record count?

[Disco Strangler 1911]

2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

^Maybe, but a lot more of this:

I grew up out there.  People's identities are all wrapped up in being "conservative."  "We ain't like you librul city folks."  And they'd cut their nose off their faces a thousand times and hand it to you to show you their commitment.  

It'll take more than "messaging." It'll take a full brainwash deprogramming, but the Democratic party is not up to that and you can't expect people to give up what everyone they've ever been close to confirms for them - that they're in the right.  

Last four years shoulda toldja.

Rurals - “Conservatives” who can’t make capitalism work without sucking massive milk out of the federal government’s teat.  Every boogie man is “socialism,” just don’t ask them the define what “socialism” is.  They don’t know what I really means despite the fact that it is exactly what is keeping their lights on.  

[JimmyJames 12271]

7 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Also a failure of Democratic messaging for rural counties, country wide.  They keep thinking they can win on urban vote alone.

Bullshit. Walmart, Wall Street, corporate America and dollar general fucked over the rurals. Fox News lied to them and said it was the libs fault. An obvious lie but they don’t teach critical thinking skills in burnet county. More like Jesus said this or that.

Now they are all fucked over brainwashed idiots seeking to overthrow American democracy.
 

Not our fault.

[pyrohornIII 4844]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Bullshit. Walmart, Wall Street, corporate America and dollar general fucked over the rurals. Fox News lied to them and said it was the libs fault. An obvious lie but they don’t teach critical thinking skills in burnet county. More like Jesus said this or that.

Now they are all fucked over brainwashed idiots seeking to overthrow American democracy.
 

Not our fault.

So where were the Dems while all that was going on?  Why weren't they talking to people about what was happening in the rural areas?  All that you said and the hospitals closing and health care being greatly diminished?   Or talking about and leading fights against unfair agriculture programs that consistently reduced the farmer/rancher's take on each dollar of commodity, which led to even more failure at the local level of the small to mid size operations being rolled up into big corporate corporations?  

I'm not saying it was there job to safeguard the rural communities, but they sure as hell fell asleep at the switch.  

They put all their money and efforts into the urban areas and paid lip service to the rural communities.   All photo ops and no answers.  Nationwide.   

Own that you made mistakes, try to identify the problems and solutions and put them forward in a succinct plan. 

The Dem tent is full of many factions, sometimes at polar opposites on certain issues.   It is hard to appease and maintain harmony.  But there is a feeling afoot that the rural vote was sacrificed for the greater good of the urban.  We can't do that. All votes are important.  

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Though Democrats’ rural woes aren’t new, they now heap pressure on Biden to begin reversing the trend. Failure to do so endangers goals such as curbing climate change and winning a Senate majority, especially with GOP Senate seats in Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin up in 2022.

“The pressure for Democrats has to be on conveying an economic message for rural America,” said Iowa Democrat John Norris, a former candidate for governor. “We have a great one to convey, but we haven’t put enough emphasis on it.”

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-tom-bakk-iowa-minnesota-01881b095d7a8b0d7b61923c4a93627d

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Why Democrats Keep Losing Rural Counties Like Mine

I’m the chair of the local Democratic Party in a Wisconsin county that Donald Trump won. It wasn’t for a lack of progressive organizing. It was because national Democrats have failed communities like mine.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/01/democrats-rural-vote-wisconsin-441458

And while I might well be fucked over, I am not brainwashed.  But I live amongst a lot of them.  90% of my county voted Trump.  I was heavily involved, and these two articles are right.  And there are more.  

[pyrohornIII 4844]

But I will tell you something else about the rural folks and their votes.  More and more money is coming into the rural area from the urban, mostly in weekend warrior tax write off.  Lots of local people make money off those outsiders,  be they the guy who sells them feed or tractors, the person who mends their fences, or oversees their operations.  Or people who made their livelihoods in the city and then retire in the country, who employ the locals to cut their trees or fix their flats.   Same fuckers will drive right past the local grocery, lumber yard or pharmacy to Walmart 40 miles away to save a dime. 

Those locals know which side their bread is buttered on, and won't go against the generally Red property owners by putting a Biden sign in their yard.  

It's pretty amazing that the money these urban people make off of manipulating laws, rules and regulations comes back into the rural area and influences enough people to vote against their own interest.   

[pyrohornIII 4844]

5 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

^Maybe, but a lot more of this:

I grew up out there.  People's identities are all wrapped up in being "conservative."  "We ain't like you librul city folks."  And they'd cut their nose off their faces a thousand times and hand it to you to show you their commitment.  

It'll take more than "messaging." It'll take a full brainwash deprogramming, but the Democratic party is not up to that and you can't expect people to give up what everyone they've ever been close to confirms for them - that they're in the right.  

Last four years shoulda toldja.

You are right.  They resent being talked down to, and made promises no one keeps.  Beto tapped into this, and really exposed how left out the rural area has been.  The local papers are filled with State and US level Republican columns.  That's where a lot of them get their news.  They read the Concho Star to see if there's a picture of there boy and his prize heifer, or running a football.   There is no other significant news feed other than local and FOX.   

Covid made most of those counties Zoom into counties for candidates, instead of simply drive through.  But cell phones don't work in many rural parts, much less Zoom.  That is also a weakness for distance learning.

Pushing for high speed broadband would be a good start.

[Hornius Emeritus 12780]

Gohmert advocating violence is really funny for this reason: my girlfriend could beat him up. I'm serious. She's a 60 year old kickboxer and I have no doubt that she could beat the crap out of Louie. She kinds of wants to, too. 

[aggie08 21733]

28 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Gohmert advocating violence is really funny for this reason: my girlfriend could beat him up. I'm serious. She's a 60 year old kickboxer and I have no doubt that she could beat the crap out of Louie. She kinds of wants to, too. 

Dude, we live in a world where the most huntiest, gun-toting, chew spitting rednecks think that Donald Trump is the ultimate alpha male. Nothing makes sense anymore.

[TexPx 2330]

Regarding the girls in that picture, they are Kilgore Rangerettes and the girls in the Rangerettes come from all over Texas as well as from other states.

Yup. Tyler has The Apache Belles.


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[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

 An obvious lie but they don’t teach critical thinking skills in burnet county. More like Jesus said this or that.

Now they are all fucked over brainwashed idiots seeking to overthrow American democracy.
 

Friend of mine hails from a small town in East Texas. Her mother isn't speaking to her and hasn't for about the last year or so because my friend has "lost her values" with which she was raised. Apparently this arose from my friend correcting/objecting to a falsehood on a social media page regarding something the President said. The mom now does this weird talking around to other relatives who then somehow get word back to my friend. Watching my friend struggle with guilt over something that seems like a parental passive aggressive power play is tough, so I don't mind being a person who just listens, but trying to figure out the soap opera of the East Texas subtleties is how I came to the conclusion that southern writers will always have plenty of material for their next great piece of work.

 

The urban/rural conundrum above as it relates to political parties has been a good discussion; thanks for the various perspectives!

[Chad Fuck 18090]

Rurals - “Conservatives” who can’t make capitalism work without sucking massive milk out of the federal government’s teat.  Every boogie man is “socialism,” just don’t ask them the define what “socialism” is.  They don’t know what I really means despite the fact that it is exactly what is keeping their lights on.  

I literally had this argument with a West Texas cousin of mine. He responded with “do your own research!” and a gif from The Mask. True story. Not exactly a great moment in political discourse among the engaged citizenry of the nation.

[Chad Fuck 18090]

You are right.  They resent being talked down to, and made promises no one keeps.  Beto tapped into this, and really exposed how left out the rural area has been.  The local papers are filled with State and US level Republican columns.  That's where a lot of them get their news.  They read the Concho Star to see if there's a picture of there boy and his prize heifer, or running a football.   There is no other significant news feed other than local and FOX.   
Covid made most of those counties Zoom into counties for candidates, instead of simply drive through.  But cell phones don't work in many rural parts, much less Zoom.  That is also a weakness for distance learning.
Pushing for high speed broadband would be a good start.

Lots of truth here. A TVAesque project for rural broadband would be huge.

Fairness Act return would as well.

But pounding a “this is what we’ve done for you lately” message might go a long way. But they’d have to have done something lately first.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

15 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

^Maybe, but a lot more of this:

I grew up out there.  People's identities are all wrapped up in being "conservative."  "We ain't like you librul city folks."  And they'd cut their nose off their faces a thousand times and hand it to you to show you their commitment.  

It'll take more than "messaging." It'll take a full brainwash deprogramming, but the Democratic party is not up to that and you can't expect people to give up what everyone they've ever been close to confirms for them - that they're in the right.  

Last four years shoulda toldja.

We've had an unhealthy obsession in this country with the rural and agricultural for more than a century.  A good bit of that obsession ascribes a nobility and importance to "farm life" that it doesn't deserve.

Hell, a goodly number of us elite intelligentsia still aspire to a place in the country.  Until we start considering meth and abjectly stupid people.

[Biff Tannen 46061]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

I literally had this argument with a West Texas cousin of mine. He responded with “do your own research!” and a gif from The Mask. True story. Not exactly a great moment in political discourse among the engaged citizenry of the nation.

Your West Texas cousin is a Qanon freak.  Congrats.

[JimmyJames 12271]

12 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

So where were the Dems while all that was going on?  Why weren't they talking to people about what was happening in the rural areas?  All that you said and the hospitals closing and health care being greatly diminished?   Or talking about and leading fights against unfair agriculture programs that consistently reduced the farmer/rancher's take on each dollar of commodity, which led to even more failure at the local level of the small to mid size operations being rolled up into big corporate corporations?  

I'm not saying it was there job to safeguard the rural communities, but they sure as hell fell asleep at the switch.  

They put all their money and efforts into the urban areas and paid lip service to the rural communities.   All photo ops and no answers.  Nationwide.   

Own that you made mistakes, try to identify the problems and solutions and put them forward in a succinct plan. 

The Dem tent is full of many factions, sometimes at polar opposites on certain issues.   It is hard to appease and maintain harmony.  But there is a feeling afoot that the rural vote was sacrificed for the greater good of the urban.  We can't do that. All votes are important.  

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-tom-bakk-iowa-minnesota-01881b095d7a8b0d7b61923c4a93627d

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/01/democrats-rural-vote-wisconsin-441458

And while I might well be fucked over, I am not brainwashed.  But I live amongst a lot of them.  90% of my county voted Trump.  I was heavily involved, and these two articles are right.  And there are more.  

The dems were asleep at the switch and allowed the republicans to completely fuck over rural America and the entire country for that matter while the Republican proudly proclaimed God, guns and freedom. The truth is the republicans don’t believe in anything at all except lining their own pocket with money from all the Republican voting suckers who don’t know any better. 

[pyrohornIII 4844]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

We've had an unhealthy obsession in this country with the rural and agricultural for more than a century.  A good bit of that obsession ascribes a nobility and importance to "farm life" that it doesn't deserve.

Hell, a goodly number of us elite intelligentsia still aspire to a place in the country.  Until we start considering meth and abjectly stupid people.

A lot of our rural areas have become deserts. Economic deserts, dotted here and there with Buccee's oases living off those who travel through.  It's like a slow burn into  Mad Max.  Maybe the apocalypse has already happened, no one said it had to be nuclear and instantaneous.   Could be like what we are doing to our climate, a slow death, like that pot of boiling frogs.  

You are right, there are less opportunities, less hope, more meth and booze.  The smart ones do get out, leaving two types, those who live on inherited acreage, or those too dumb or afraid to leave.   

The American Gothic and Norman Rockwell are losing their sheen.  

Can we change that?  I think we can.  How, I am not certain, but I do know it will not be an overnight thing.  But it needs to start somewhere.  

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Just now, pyrohornIII said:

A lot of our rural areas have become deserts. Economic deserts, dotted here and there with Buccee's oases living off those who travel through.  It's like a slow burn into  Mad Max.  Maybe the apocalypse has already happened, no one said it had to be nuclear and instantaneous.   Could be like what we are doing to our climate, a slow death, like that pot of boiling frogs.  

You are right, there are less opportunities, less hope, more meth and booze.  The smart ones do get out, leaving two types, those who live on inherited acreage, or those too dumb or afraid to leave.   

The American Gothic and Norman Rockwell are losing their sheen.  

Can we change that?  I think we can.  How, I am not certain, but I do know it will not be an overnight thing.  But it needs to start somewhere.  

The burbian creep is a thing too. Not quite country not quite urban but sometimes it creates a mindset that  identifies with the myth of the self-sufficient agrarian while simultaneously exploiting both urban and rural low income workers. The police who live in the burbs but work in the cities. the acreage dwellers who complain that the chain they wanted has poor service but refuse to see the lack of transportation accessibility, daycare, and low wages for the workers leaves fewer resources for staff. The odd gentrification that drives the poor into areas that are further from the oases of which you speak. The drain on the coffers of cities and small towns by people who lament the taxes that pay for the infrastructure and growth that the tax cuts can't support. It isn't a feudal system per se, but it's not capitalism at its best because it is systematically driving that wedge deeper.

[pyrohornIII 4844]

8 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The burbian creep is a thing too. Not quite country not quite urban but sometimes it creates a mindset that  identifies with the myth of the self-sufficient agrarian while simultaneously exploiting both urban and rural low income workers. The police who live in the burbs but work in the cities. the acreage dwellers who complain that the chain they wanted has poor service but refuse to see the lack of transportation accessibility, daycare, and low wages for the workers leaves fewer resources for staff. The odd gentrification that drives the poor into areas that are further from the oases of which you speak. The drain on the coffers of cities and small towns by people who lament the taxes that pay for the infrastructure and growth that the tax cuts can't support. It isn't a feudal system per se, but it's not capitalism at its best because it is systematically driving that wedge deeper.

That thing about chains.  I grew up in a town that had a great mom and pop burger place.   Then whataburger came in and for a while everybody went there,  even though (sacrilege, i know) the burgers at WB weren't near as good.  Power of advertising, I guess.  Look!  We made the big time, we have a WB!  Now it's a Dollar General.

Additional drains on those small town coffers by tax abatements granted to Walmart, which means that loss in revenue must be made up by the small business owners Walmart is competing with.  Small business owner has to raise prices to stay afloat.  Walmart wins, little guys shut down, town loses.

Also counties are overpowered legally by large corps (mining, power generation, etc) who keep challenging their property tax valuations.  Huge scam.  The state should have a commission on evaluating and setting said values statewide.

Who am I kidding?  Right?

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by pyrohornIII

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

2 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

And drains on those small town coffers by tax abatements granted to Walmart, which means that loss in revenue must be made up by the small business owners Walmart is competing with.  Small business owner has to raise prices to stay afloat.  Walmart wins, little guys shut down, town loses.

Also counties are overpowered legally by large corps (mining, power generation, etc) who keep challenging their property tax valuations.  Huge scam.  The state should have a commission on evaluating and setting said values statewide.

Who am I kidding?  Right?

 

You can see that, but seems like a large number of folks can't or won't or think it works just fine...