2017-18 Dallas Mavericks: Bombing for Bamba

[Post Oak 20208]

More Mo stuff. Please be there at 5. Gonna be a star

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23746891/2018-nba-draft-mohamed-bamba-growing-case-best-player-draft

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

On 6/3/2018 at 12:56 AM, D_Goose said:

I've been out of the loop the last couple days and I think that Boston chatter has been dispelled, but regardless, no one should be excited about making a trade with Danny Ainge. Especially the Mavs. If hypothetically Ainge genuinely did want Bamba and you're Donnie/Cubes, you turn your phone off, sit your ass down, and mark every single other name off your draft board that's not Mo Motherfucking Bamba.

While I generally agree with this, Ainge is also the one that wanted to mortgage a lot of the picks from the Nets trade for Justice Winslow. 

[Ricky Butler 2683]

2 hours ago, GabrielsHorn said:

While I generally agree with this, Ainge is also the one that wanted to mortgage a lot of the picks from the Nets trade for Justice Winslow. 

Yeah, if anything I'd say Ainge is due for a shitty trade that backfires on him.

[USMC 7]

 

7 years ago tonight, boys........

 

Pretty good read, always great to hear these guys reflect on that magical run.

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2018/06/12/7th-anniversary-mavericks-nba-title-jason-kidd-recalls-halftime-pep-talk-1-12-dirk-nowitzki-hey-big-boy-can-just-breathe

[Post Oak 20208]

I loved that team so much.  A bunch of old guys who knew how to play basketball.  

[Get ln My Van 927]

Some talk that Memphis wants to part with Pick 4 and Chandler Parsons (salary dump). Fuck Parsons but I’d do that in a heartbeat. Offer Wes and Powell or a future protected 1st, then you have back to back picks at 4 & 5 to build around with DSJ. No brainer, imo, depending on what Memphis wants in return.

[Get ln My Van 927]

Potential lineup with DSJ, Doncic (or Porter) and Bamba would be fun.

[immortal13 4059]

How would the Mavs get Donic and Bamba?

[fellside 1113]

Said it in the other thread, but I don't think Memphis wants to simply lose the pick to dump Parsons. They want to use a trade down to dump Parsons.

Moving from 5 to 4 isn't worth taking on that amount of money.

Memphis was tanking harder than any other team and embarrassing themselves in the process. They didn't do that to just do a salary dump.

[Get ln My Van 927]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

How would the Mavs get Donic and Bamba?

You would have the 4 AND 5 Pick. Provided they’re both there.

[Get ln My Van 927]

32 minutes ago, fellside said:

Said it in the other thread, but I don't think Memphis wants to simply lose the pick to dump Parsons. They want to use a trade down to dump Parsons.

Moving from 5 to 4 isn't worth taking on that amount of money.

Memphis was tanking harder than any other team and embarrassing themselves in the process. They didn't do that to just do a salary dump.

I’d be pissed if I were a Memphis fan if they did trade it just to dump salary... but they are Memphis and are in the position that they’re in for a reason, ie stupid contract decisions.

[immortal13 4059]

6 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

You would have the 4 AND 5 Pick. Provided they’re both there.

How are the Mavs going to acquire the 4th and 5th pick?

[Get ln My Van 927]

1 hour ago, immortal13 said:

How are the Mavs going to acquire the 4th and 5th pick?

They already have the 5th pick. The Memphis talk is them giving up the 4th Pick mainly to get rid of the Parsons contract, which is awful. All you would need to give back is either a Wes or Dwight or maybe a future 1st

[Ricky Butler 2683]

1 hour ago, fellside said:

Said it in the other thread, but I don't think Memphis wants to simply lose the pick to dump Parsons. They want to use a trade down to dump Parsons.

Moving from 5 to 4 isn't worth taking on that amount of money.

Memphis was tanking harder than any other team and embarrassing themselves in the process. They didn't do that to just do a salary dump.

Yeah, I always thought this scenario would include a player of value going to Memphis. They want to get off wasted money, but they want to win now.

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

Perfect scenario would be Faried +14 for 2nd rounder. Flip 14 + Powell for 4 + Parsons. I’m assuming finances would get tight for us and guarantees a few more years of suckage.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

Even if finances are tough, we probably should pull a Nets and just absorb bad contracts for a bit for picks. The formation of yet another super team means we should be taking time to grow talent for after the Warriors break up.

[CBT 1282]

All this Donic falling talk is really going to get me excited to then just have it all yanked away.

[CBT 1282]

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

https://247sports.com/nba/mavericks/Article/Dallas-Mavs-Plans-June-Room-the-ticking-clock-and-Deadlines-Commitments-to-winning-the-NBA-Draft-119114291/

Interesting article on the Mavs cap space prior to the draft and how it could be used before the pick comes in. 

[Dr Fear 1268]

Jeff "Skin" Wade told an insane story yesterday about recently playing gold with Don Nelson in Hawaii.  Pt. 2 is coming today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/style/don-nelson-nba-weed.html

[CBT 1282]

The pictures are awesome too. Love Nellie.

[fellside 1113]

Evil plan.

Trade 5th pick to Boston for Brown, so Boston can take Bamba.

Trade Barnes and future pick to Memphis for Parsons and 4th pick. Draft Bamba. Drink Boston tears.

Build a core around DSJ, Brown and Bamba.

[immortal13 4059]

4 hours ago, fellside said:

Evil plan.

Trade 5th pick to Boston for Brown, so Boston can take Bamba.

Trade Barnes and future pick to Memphis for Parsons and 4th pick. Draft Bamba. Drink Boston tears.

Build a core around DSJ, Brown and Bamba.

I like it

[Get ln My Van 927]

10 hours ago, Dr Fear said:

Jeff "Skin" Wade told an insane story yesterday about recently playing gold with Don Nelson in Hawaii.  Pt. 2 is coming today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/style/don-nelson-nba-weed.html

Was listening to this earlier. Don is living the dream these days.

[CBT 1282]

[D_Goose 489]

Previous Ringer mock had us taking JJJ, now they have us back with Bamba. You've got all the Woj, Luka trade talk from a couple days ago and then I just saw Russillo tweet he heard the Mavs are interested in MPJ. This all means we probably end up with Mikal Bridges right?

[Dar Adal 6]

Mavs have always been tight lipped about who they really want. 

The fact that it is so well know they want Doncic is starting to make me think they want to make sure he does no slide to 5 so the big they really want is there. 

 

 

[Dr Fear 1268]

Mavs have always been tight lipped about who they really want. 
The fact that it is so well know they want Doncic is starting to make me think they want to make sure he does no slide to 5 so the big they really want is there. 
 
 

This, just look to last year with the Frank smokescreen.

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[Dar Adal 6]

8 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

This, just look to last year with the Frank smokescreen.

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Yep - would like to Bamba go there, or JJJ

Carter would be good too, but not at 5 

[RexWilson 1346]

I think we trade up tonight. Trade with Hawks. Swap picks, we take on a salary dump maybe give up a future 2nd or heavily protected first. We get Luka, and Atlanta can still get Trae Young and dump salary.

If we stay put, I think other teams trade up to 3 and 4 and Luka and Bamba will be gone.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

11 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

I think we trade up tonight. Trade with Hawks. Swap picks, we take on a salary dump maybe give up a future 2nd or heavily protected first. We get Luka, and Atlanta can still get Trae Young and dump salary.

If we stay put, I think other teams trade up to 3 and 4 and Luka and Bamba will be gone.

Bazemore, perhaps?

[Ricky Butler 2683]

11 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Bazemore, perhaps?

I don't quite get the Hawks dumping salary. Aren't they a team like the Mavs that are more interested in taking on bad contracts for assets? I would think teams interested in dumping are those that plan to be active in free agency and those above the luxury tax.

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

21 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

I don't quite get the Hawks dumping salary. Aren't they a team like the Mavs that are more interested in taking on bad contracts for assets? I would think teams interested in dumping are those that plan to be active in free agency and those above the luxury tax.

I assume it’s geared more toward the bottom line and not the luxury tax. Mavs still sell tickets, Hawks do not.

[CBT 1282]

it's happening????

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

Allegedly-, the guy who is reporting the trade is saying Doncic+Bazemore for Young+Wes. I'd be amazed if that was it

Edited June 21, 2018 by GabrielsHorn
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[RexWilson 1346]

39 minutes ago, CBT said:

it's happening????

Luka and Bazemore for Young and Wes. I like it.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I don't quite get the Hawks dumping salary. Aren't they a team like the Mavs that are more interested in taking on bad contracts for assets? I would think teams interested in dumping are those that plan to be active in free agency and those above the luxury tax.

It's a shell game using a distressed assets portfolio.  Where can you find value with the players on the board.

[Ricky Butler 2683]

51 minutes ago, Sgt. Slaughter said:

I assume it’s geared more toward the bottom line and not the luxury tax. Mavs still sell tickets, Hawks do not.

Perhaps, but I had read that they were interested in taking on money. Maybe they want to create space to sign some veterans in free agency. They're going to need someone to mentor all these guys they are going to draft tonight.

[fellside 1113]

If we get the guy I wanted months before the draft 2 years in a row, I might have to stop complaining about sucking in the draft from now on.

[Ricky Butler 2683]

17 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Allegedly-, the guy who is reporting the trade is saying Doncic+Bazemore for Young+Wes. I'd be amazed if that was it

This would be amazing. The last thing I want any Mavs exec to talk about is "keeping powder dry." Get young players now!

I do think if ATL moves, it's going to be us or Orlando. They have to get one of their guys. Can't trade too far down.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

If Mavs do add Doncic, getting a good defensive C in free agency (Capella?) and re-signing Curry would make for a nice little team that could sneak into the playoffs.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Perhaps, but I had read that they were interested in taking on money. Maybe they want to create space to sign some veterans in free agency. They're going to need someone to mentor all these guys they are going to draft tonight.

It comes down to the Hawks like Young more than Doncic.  So, why not use their position to gather value.  Getting off the hook of 38 million for 2 years could be a good thing especially if they can use that slot or money and pick up another first rounder from other teams looking to dump salary.

[Ricky Butler 2683]

3 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

It comes down to the Hawks like Young more than Doncic. 

Totally agree if that's the case. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I love Doncic, so I'm running any proposed trades through the filter of "did a twitter Mavs fan just come up with this idea."

[immortal13 4059]

19 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

It comes down to the Hawks like Young more than Doncic

That's why they are the Hawks

[Drew 2404]

We probably won’t know until the Mavs pick. If they take Young then it’s a go I believe. 

[RexWilson 1346]

Now Mavs are getting cold feet. Feel they are paying 19 mil to move up 2 spots.

Bazemore is overpaid but not useless. Make him your first guy off the bench.

[Drew 2404]

7 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

Now Mavs are getting cold feet. Feel they are paying 19 mil to move up 2 spots.

Bazemore is overpaid but not useless. Make him your first guy off the bench.

No the issue is the Hawks want an unprotected 2019 first. To move up 2 spots? No thanks 

 

if 5/33 and taking on salary isn’t enough than stay at 5 and take Bamba. 

[mdmost 43000]

 

[Jive Turkey 12594]

I would be so stoked if we get Doncic.

Edited June 21, 2018 by Jive Turkey

[TheFlagship 432]

Fuck yes!!!