2017-18 Dallas Mavericks: Bombing for Bamba

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

2 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Was listening to Skin and he was saying Donnie does not believe next year is a good draft class. They are not going to tank this year, that's for sure. 

Nobody believes next year's draft is any good. During the Mickey Ds workouts the scouts were complaining about how garbage next year's class was. 

[Get ln My Van 927]

Can’t ask for a much better draft. Brunson looks like great value and a possible Yogi replacement. Greek Freak’s bro is all potential and may help with an older bro’s Free Agency pitch down the line. Exciting shit, boys.

[Get ln My Van 927]

2 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Nobody believes next year's draft is any good. During the Mickey Ds workouts the scouts were complaining about how garbage next year's class was. 

Be interesting to see how Zion Williamson progresses.

[Post Oak 20246]

I still hope we pick in the top 5.  Give me the canadian or the unbroken porter

[WJC88 97]

8 hours ago, RexWilson said:

I think we trade up tonight. Trade with Hawks. Swap picks, we take on a salary dump maybe give up a future 2nd or heavily protected first. We get Luka, and Atlanta can still get Trae Young and dump salary.

If we stay put, I think other teams trade up to 3 and 4 and Luka and Bamba will be gone.

 

1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

i'd like to pick your brain about about horse racing...

Yes. He nailed it.

[RexWilson 1348]

 

[Drew 2494]

1 hour ago, CBT said:

 

 

 

 

Yeah bro...

1 hour ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I don't. Why not shoot for the stars with a Mitchell Robinson? Brunson  more than likely won't play for the Mavs 2 years down the road. 

What makes you think that?  Some are actually seeing him as Yogis replacement eventually. That’s a quality backup. 

[CBT 1282]

8 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I don't. Why not shoot for the stars with a Mitchell Robinson? Brunson  more than likely won't play for the Mavs 2 years down the road. 

I think you are underrating Brunson. But we shall see. 

[GRHorn 105]

What a draft.  Doncic and Brunson with DSJ could turn into a lethal 3 guard rotation. 

[Post Oak 20246]

I like the brunson pick.  

Donnie made the comment that just get talented players here and figure out where they fit.  Seems like a carlisle pick to me.  

[Dbeasy 15068]

Espn comments on Doncic were weird. Highly complimentary about him and the pick. Then goes on to say he’s slow, unathletic and can’t free up to the basket. What the heck?

[CBT 1282]

It's all relative. He's slow and unathletic compared to Kevin Knox and Zhaire Smith. But watch his tape in the euroleague and tell me he can't get it done.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18550]

Congrats on Doncic. He's going to be great. Not looking forward to the Spurs having to face him for the next decade. 

[immortal13 4059]

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Espn comments on Doncic were weird. Highly complimentary about him and the pick. Then goes on to say he’s slow, unathletic and can’t free up to the basket. What the heck?

Can't "free up to the basket"? What does that mean?

[idigTexas 2289]

4 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Can't "free up to the basket"? What does that mean?

It means he is going to have to pay up to the basket.

[gsoda3 3263]

27 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Can't "free up to the basket"? What does that mean?

can't beat his guy 1 on 1 to the hole.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

27 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Can't "free up to the basket"? What does that mean?

It means he won't be able to turn the corner on a guy and get to the rim uncontested..... defenders will be able to stick with him b/c of his lateral quickness... or lack thereof.  

Not saying I agree, simply defining for you.  

[immortal13 4059]

Yeah I'm not buying that. His film says otherwise

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

46 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Yeah I'm not buying that. His film says otherwise

Agreed, he'll be fine hes got good enough handles where he'll catch some people reaching and that'll open the door for him to get by plus he's not always gonna have other guards guarding him. 

[Gene Parmesan 4008]

5 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Espn comments on Doncic were weird. Highly complimentary about him and the pick. Then goes on to say he’s slow, unathletic and can’t free up to the basket. What the heck?

He's white

[aggie08 21505]

26 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Agreed, he'll be fine hes got good enough handles where he'll catch some people reaching and that'll open the door for him to get by plus he's not always gonna have other guards guarding him. 

Zach Lowe always talks about this: skills don't exist independently. Lateral quickness isn't just how fast you can run a shuttle drill. Having a high basketball IQ (being two steps ahead, always moving, not having to pause to assess), having the ball on the string, pinpoint passing if a defender cheats over, the threat of your own shot that keeps your man close and susceptible to fakes...all allow plenty of opportunities to create separation.

Harden and Curry are both probably below average NBA athletes in a vacuum, but can blow by just about anyone or create panic because of their combination of other skills. Doncic seems cut from that ilk.

Edited June 22, 2018 by aggie08

[CBT 1282]

So, will he win the MVP next year? or start the run the year after?

[Machinator 32099]

1 hour ago, CBT said:

So, will he win the MVP next year? or start the run the year after?

I don't know, but it seems that you Mavs fans need a new offseason thread with a more appropriate title.

[Dutchrudder 11141]

Lusting for Luka... 's mom?

[CBT 1282]

lawl

[immortal13 4059]

Everytime I hear his name I think about that horrible 80's song 'Luka'

[LurkingHorn 1066]

Heard Carlisle in an interview talk about Doncic's lower 3 pt % and how it wasn't a major concern for them. He said the shorter line in the Euroleauge actually hurts 3 pt % because it's easier to defend which leads to more contested shots. Never really thought about that when trying to project shooting to the NBA game. 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

SIAP..... Figured some of you may appreciate this.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/06/20/luka-doncic-nba-draft-rumors-winner-larkin-dorell-jackson-upside/

[CBT 1282]

Nice article, thanks.

[Pato del Muerto 52526]

Sounds like Larry bird. That’ll work. 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

 

[lonestarguido 21]

Tendered Yogi, Dougie McBuckets, and Salah today

Not sure on Yogi since that will be 4 PG’s on the roster with a desire to also bring back Devin


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[Skipper 6136]

Man, all this Deandre smoke.....  He's certainly a fit but would be hard to get over the BS he pulled.  I don't think a player has ever been boo'd as much in the AAC as he was his first game back.  It was deafening.

[RexWilson 1348]

If DAJ opts in, you can do a Wes for DAJ straight up. Gives Clippers a chance to flip Wes for something at the trade deadline (maybe a third team gets involved and we send them Wes). Dallas gets the chance to work out a longer term deal with DAJ.

Considering the qualifying offers we offered to Yogi, Dougie, and Salah combined with the draft holds, I assume we dont have enough cap space now to make a legit offer if DAJ opts out. Reports seem he is not opting out. The trade works better for us anyways because we would still have cap to sign solid bench players.

I have not seen anything on Seth Curry's status. Wonder what's going to happen with him 

 

 

Edited June 27, 2018 by RexWilson

[conVINCEd 21469]

The Clips traded Austin Rivers for Gortat.  Interesting on a few levels.

[CBT 1282]

Really hope Seth comes back on the cheap. 

[Post Oak 20246]

Im really interested in A Gordon.  I wonder how the Mavs and Magic view him

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

26 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Im really interested in A Gordon.  I wonder how the Mavs and Magic view him

I read this yesterday.... Maybe if you went to Orlando and said you'd take on one of their bad contracts.

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2018/06/27/orlando-magics-eyes-on-aaron-gordon-and-they-intend-to-keep-him/

[Bozo_Casanova 26488]

On 6/22/2018 at 8:14 AM, CBT said:

It's all relative. He's slow and unathletic compared to Kevin Knox and Zhaire Smith. But watch his tape in the euroleague and tell me he can't get it done.

He reminds me a bit of a Jeff Hornacek.

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

 

[CBT 1282]

Need that room to fit Lebron in under the cap. Pretty standard. 

[Post Oak 20246]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

I wonder if this means S/T with LAC and then a move on someone like Gordon.

 

I hope Doug comes back

 

[Patrick Bateman 3917]

 

[Post Oak 20246]

mike fisher ✭

 

@fishsports

 

1 #Mavs work w #Clippers to do 'opt-in-and-trade' for #DeAndreJordan 2 trade before July 1, w Matthews to LAC. (Which gets $7M TE, a pairing better than letting DAJ walk July 1.) 3 DAJ gets his $24M ... 4 AND Dallas can be left w $20M of shopping room to bid on, say Jabari

[LurkingHorn 1066]

I don't know how I feel about trying to throw $20 mil at Jabari. He's had some major injuries. If you could get him closer to $15 mil, I'd be down for that. 

[Post Oak 20246]

13 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I don't know how I feel about trying to throw $20 mil at Jabari. He's had some major injuries. If you could get him closer to $15 mil, I'd be down for that. 

Im out on Jabari.  Itll be interesting to see if they go big like jabari or my preference Gordon or spread it around a little more 

 

[CBT 1282]

Jabari interests me more than Randle. But, yea, price/years is what's key.

[CBT 1282]

[Post Oak 20246]

Kevin Arnovitz said he thinks they should use their cap space to absorb contracts to get assets.  

I think thats what i would prefer.  Keep your powder dry.  Obviously thats not going to happen but i think it would be the prudent thing

[CBT 1282]

That makes DAJ's one year opt-in more reasonable.