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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

You do know that this is the exact same argument that was used by segregationists, right?

It’s the exact same argument that’s been used hundreds of times, over hundreds of issues. 
 

Will consolidate next 10 posts into one because I’ve got some baby back bitches sending me 20+ negs without engagement. Appreciate those of you who can hold conversation with someone you disagree with, without negging every post in their history. 

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I’ve never been a member of any political party, but if I find the majority of my views aligned with a party that embraces fascists, I’m going to disassociate myself from that party, even if it means aligning with another party that I have significant disagreements with on big issues, until that party purges the fascists.

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32 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

This is Republicans in a nutshell.  I know my own experiences, I know what I like, what I don't like, what works for me will work for everyone else.  Everyone is the same, what I think works for everyone.  

 

they think that reality is simple and people don't see it because they are stupid and lazy. in fact reality is complex and they are exactly what they accuse everyone else of being

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So not engaging in all the fatty trolling nonsense.  But back on topic.

I know a guy whose always been a bit of a grifter.  He was in my VFD for about a month, until he realized we weren't going to change everything to meet his way of thinking.  He told me that his responsibility was to help repopulate the world with white people and he married his wife more for her child bearing hips and eagerness to have a large family than love of her.    He wasn't worried so much about within our borders, but more that christianity was falling behind globally to "mooslims."  He was very pro Catholic.  They home birthed most of their kids, and she miscarried twice I seem to remember.  

That was 16 years ago.  They had 6 kids as a couple, and are now divorced.  The kids for the most part are good kids, just kind of different.  They all lean heavily right and godfearing.    

So yeah, it's been a thing for a while.  It's probably been expanded from being a global problem to more domestic.  

He's now a realtor.  Big shock.

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49 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

It’s the exact same argument that’s been used hundreds of times, over hundreds of issues. 
 

Will consolidate next 10 posts into one because I’ve got some baby back bitches sending me 20+ negs without engagement. Appreciate those of you who can hold conversation with someone you disagree with, without negging every post in their history. 

You're putting it all out in the open, so what's there to discuss?

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21 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Free shit?  Same reason they’ve been getting voters forever. 

This is the thing. Apparently most or many on the right have never actually met and/or befriended a good sample size of immigrants. Most immigrants are more inclined to be conservative on issues that don't increases their likelihood of being murdered, assaulted, harassed, or discriminated against. The right has so thoroughly convinced themselves that actually working for the vote of these demographics is such a lost cause that they pursue policies that push these groups even further away. Shit, when it comes to Hispanics most of them identify as white anyway so this great replacement theory is about as fraudulent now as it was with its first 3 or so iterations in this country's history (Irish, Italians, Catholics Eastern Eurpeans, etc). 

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is exactly what Trump has brought us.  A lot of GOP policies have racist/xenophobic undertones, whether they arose from racism or not and whether their proponents were actively or consciously racist.

But Trumpism revealed that if you bring the racist undertones nearer or actually to the surface, it broadens their appeal.

I can't help but wonder what Steve King (former Iowa Congressman ) thinks about the fact that his party now whole heartedly endorses the exact same beliefs that got him stripped of his committee assignments and rebuked by his colleagues by a count of 416-1 only 3 years ago.

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7 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

So nobody has any doubt at this point that fatty would’ve enthusiastically volunteered to gas people in a nazi death camp, right?

 

6 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

No he’d have been the bakery owner who has no idea the death camp is right down the road from his village 

 

“Hey this guy says he's not a Nazi. All of Germany and I haven't met one Nazi yet.”

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3 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I’ve never been a member of any political party, but if I find the majority of my views aligned with a party that embraces fascists, I’m going to disassociate myself from that party, even if it means aligning with another party that I have significant disagreements with on big issues, until that party purges the fascists.

This.  If I were a true "conservative", I would think I would have ZERO issue voting with the Ds until the GOP is obliterated or purged of the complete shit show nazi clowns that have overtaken it.  Yes, I would probably disagree with most policies the Ds put forward, but at least none of those policies lead to an authoritarian destruction of our entire system of government and way of life.  I'm pretty sure many on this board are of this ilk. 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

This.  If I were a true "conservative", I would think I would have ZERO issue voting with the Ds until the GOP is obliterated or purged of the complete shit show nazi clowns that have overtaken it.  Yes, I would probably disagree with most policies the Ds put forward, but at least none of those policies lead to an authoritarian destruction of our entire system of government and way of life.  I'm pretty sure many on this board are of this ilk. 

What these stupid fucks don’t understand is they are next on the chopping block. The true believers only have a use for them until they are in control. Then it’s purity tests and ole Johnny and fatty ain’t passing. They don’t have the money or political clout to be players and they are not dumb enough to be of use (I know hard to believe)

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5 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I’ve never been a member of any political party, but if I find the majority of my views aligned with a party that embraces fascists, I’m going to disassociate myself from that party, even if it means aligning with another party that I have significant disagreements with on big issues, until that party purges the fascists.

I don’t understand why anyone would consider themselves a member of a political party unless they were a politician running for office.

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2 hours ago, Poe It Up said:

Not familiar with Brisket’s recent nervous breakdown, are we? 

Wishing harm on you or your family is crass but in no way changes the probability of harm occurring. Elected officials in your party are amplifying a narrative that directly led to the shooting deaths of 33 and injury of 26 more

Be better

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Wishing harm on you or your family is crass but in no way changes the probability of harm occurring. Elected officials in your party are amplifying a narrative that directly led to the shooting deaths of 33 and injury of 26 more
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The harm will continue to come. There’s a mathematical chance that his family gets caught in the crossfire - someone will be, and for the universe to have any justice, it might as well be someone with a complete lack of empathy, so THEN they might actually understand. It’s going to happen. Wishing it would happen to assholes instead of innocents isn’t crass, it’s the only sane approach.
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20 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Wishing harm on you or your family is crass but in no way changes the probability of harm occurring. Elected officials in your party are amplifying a narrative that directly led to the shooting deaths of 33 and injury of 26 more

Be better

I’m more worried about getting struck by lightning. 

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This.  If I were a true "conservative", I would think I would have ZERO issue voting with the Ds until the GOP is obliterated or purged of the complete shit show nazi clowns that have overtaken it.  Yes, I would probably disagree with most policies the Ds put forward, but at least none of those policies lead to an authoritarian destruction of our entire system of government and way of life.  I'm pretty sure many on this board are of this ilk. 

The Republican Party is horribly broken and you can’t fix them by voting for them. Also, there hasn’t been a decent Republican President in this century. Bush and Trump were disasters. I could write a long list of complaints about Obama but he crushed them both. And he had to deal with all the shit he inherited from Dubya. Then Trump came along and took credit for the Obama economy (while ignoring the fact that illegal immigration was at its lowest point in half a century under Obama’s rein...it skyrocketed under Trump...almost like he wanted that to happen so he could express outrage over it).

Ugh. I’ve probably already said more than I needed to. I could go on a longer rant but I’ll just leave it at that. Except to say fuck Nixon and fuck Reagan and fuck any Republican who dares call themselves the party of Lincoln. 

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4 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

Those that are saying they haven’t heard the replacement theory stuff - if you’ve ever heard anyone say we can’t let in more immigrants because it will change the US - this is related.

Even "family values" has a tinge of it.  Everything related to the culture wars stems from replacement theory.

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17 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I actually don't.  I watched a documentary recently that caused me to get involved.  Ghana.  Poor people that work hard, and will never have a chance to get out.  While they'd probably still be annoyed with working in Austin and having to live in P'ville, they would be grateful to be here.  I'd give to them 100x before someone who was born healthy in the US and somehow fucked that up.   

Yeah but she's a bleeding heart.  Then again she likes money and works hard for it.  Guess we'll never know what happens in the booth.    I would bet you dollars to donuts I grew up in as poor of an area as you claim to, but good burn.  And I have several daughters; I appreciate your interest in their well-being. 

Poverty in the US.   This is designed for Europeans, but it demonstrates how little safety net we have here.  One fellow, who lives out of his car, takes the display case pizza and shares it with his fellow homeless.   He used to be a programmer but had some health issue that caused him to be unable to work and unemployment didn't help enough and he burned through his savings thinking he could get back on track.   He didn't and is living out of his car.   One lady works as a caregiver and has a gym membership so she can take a daily shower and keep her job.   

Poor people can be given tickets to games.   If you are poor and someone hands you 5 tickets to a game, something you will likely not be able to afford and might not get that opportunity to do again?  You take your kids and go or you sell them if you can.  That doesn't mean you'll get $300 for each ticket.  

 

I do find it hypocritical how many of you America First types like to point out the poverty of Burundi and then assume that because we are not all delivering crops on bicycles for 14 hours a day our poor have it easy.   As if that job could exist here.  Also the suffering/challenges of one does not minimize the suffering/challenges of another. If your kid came home and said the teacher tried to touch him would you respond  "Well son, in Ukraine you could be raped in front of your mother, so stop your bitching?"

The bold is a bullshit line so overused as to be meaningless.  It is like saying one is honest.  Liars say that too.  

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4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I had forgotten about "Replacement Theory" until a bunch of people with Slavic and Italian names started going on about it.

My favorites are the ones with obviously shortened/anglicized names.

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3 hours ago, Nivek said:

Poverty in the US.   This is designed for Europeans, but it demonstrates how little safety net we have here.  One fellow, who lives out of his car, takes the display case pizza and shares it with his fellow homeless.   He used to be a programmer but had some health issue that caused him to be unable to work and unemployment didn't help enough and he burned through his savings thinking he could get back on track.   He didn't and is living out of his car.   One lady works as a caregiver and has a gym membership so she can take a daily shower and keep her job.   

Poor people can be given tickets to games.   If you are poor and someone hands you 5 tickets to a game, something you will likely not be able to afford and might not get that opportunity to do again?  You take your kids and go or you sell them if you can.  That doesn't mean you'll get $300 for each ticket.  

 

I do find it hypocritical how many of you America First types like to point out the poverty of Burundi and then assume that because we are not all delivering crops on bicycles for 14 hours a day our poor have it easy.   As if that job could exist here.  Also the suffering/challenges of one does not minimize the suffering/challenges of another. If your kid came home and said the teacher tried to touch him would you respond  "Well son, in Ukraine you could be raped in front of your mother, so stop your bitching?"

The bold is a bullshit line so overused as to be meaningless.  It is like saying one is honest.  Liars say that too.  

A family member that works for the DOD uses this argument ALL THE TIME.  "Be glad you aren't in Afghanistan" etc.  (He never served in Afghanistan, yet uses this all the time).  The point is, no shit.  Using one of the worst situations in the word doesn't mean that everything here is amazing.  This is yet another version of "American Exceptionalism", which I think is the great downfall of us all.  This same person puts forward the idea that animals are below us and have no souls and are not worthy of many rights humans have.  The very idea that "we", as Americans, are so far above other people and animals is what serial killers think.  Oh, I just figured out the current Republican party.

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7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

A family member that works for the DOD uses this argument ALL THE TIME.  "Be glad you aren't in Afghanistan" etc.  (He never served in Afghanistan, yet uses this all the time).  The point is, no shit.  Using one of the worst situations in the word doesn't mean that everything here is amazing.  This is yet another version of "American Exceptionalism", which I think is the great downfall of us all. 

This is right on.

 

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This same person puts forward the idea that animals are below us and have no souls and are not worthy of many rights humans have.  The very idea that "we", as Americans, are so far above other people and animals is what serial killers think.  Oh, I just figured out the current Republican party.

You lost me here. 

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3 hours ago, Poe It Up said:

I’m more worried about getting struck by lightning. 

I know you’re fucking with everyone, and it’s somewhat entertaining, but usually disappointing. Granted, there’s alot of hypobele in some posts you’re fucking with, but you come across as too intelligently humorous to ignore the macro movement of the Republican Party. You’re micro examples make you seem obtuse to a bigger picture that is obvious to anyone with a reasonably discerning brain.

People are worried about a macro shift in this country toward something that is undemocratic and unconstitutional. Because that doesn’t resonate in your small profile of American life doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

But hey, you do you. 

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But you see, the GOP hasn't shifted, it's that liberals are all far left socialists now.

See Greg Abbott regarding illegal immigration:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/texas-schools-undocumented-immigrants-supreme-court.html

 

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Texas Governor Ready to Challenge Schooling of Migrant Children

Gov. Greg Abbott may target a 1982 Supreme Court ruling that requires schools to educate undocumented children. Some conservatives see an opening for a fresh look at old precedents.

 

 

Now let's see what these liberal cucks have to say on the matter:
 

What nerve Reagan has saying we shouldn't be putting up fences on the border. He even said open the border! We need a spiked border fence with an alligator filled moat and armed sentry guns to protect those poor ultra wealthly city dwelling land owners from getting illegals trekking across their ranches where they go to play cowboy on the weekends. Oh, the humanity! 

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

A family member that works for the DOD uses this argument ALL THE TIME.  "Be glad you aren't in Afghanistan" etc.  (He never served in Afghanistan, yet uses this all the time).  The point is, no shit.  Using one of the worst situations in the word doesn't mean that everything here is amazing.  This is yet another version of "American Exceptionalism", which I think is the great downfall of us all.  This same person puts forward the idea that animals are below us and have no souls and are not worthy of many rights humans have.  The very idea that "we", as Americans, are so far above other people and animals is what serial killers think.  Oh, I just figured out the current Republican party.

Likely the same kind of person that said Stella Liebeck shouldn’t have sued McDonald’s because “of course the coffee was boiling hot. What did you want it to be? Ice cold?!!!” It’s a stupid person’s idea of a smart thing to say.

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4 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

 

Just fringe stuff, nothing to worry about.

Right now there are about 500 Roma sleeping in Prague’s main train station.  Many of them say they are Ukrainian and they present an issue for rehousing for the local authorities because Roma travel in large extended family groups (think 15 plus people) and local Czech emergency housing isn’t designed for big groups and the Roma families will not split up. 

Whats really interesting is that many if not most of them hold Hungarian passports. A chunk of them are Hungarian speaking Podcarpathian Ukrainian Roma.  Orban handed out a bunch of Hungarian passports to “Hungarians abroad” and then paid them to vote Fidesz.  A bunch more are just Hungarian Roma who got sent West and told they’d qualify for refugee benefits.  The Czechs have tried to send Hungarian citizens to Budapest— as EU citizens of one nation, they are not eligible for welfare benefits in a different country— but the Hungarians won’t even let them off the trains.

These are the people that American conservatives are in bed with. 

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18 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Growing up “surrounded “ by it is definitely not the same as growing up in it.

 

My youngest daughter just reminded me that one of her her best friend’s dad is a Republican elected official in North Texas. they have 7 kid  and they are all what you would describe as leftists. Actually, they’re pretty middle of the road centrist but then you guys would call a Nixon a commie if he were in politics today .
 

Anyway I don’t know how his wife is going to vote or does vote, but I do know that she got all the under 18 kids Covid vaccinated without his knowledge and definitely against his wishes. All of his kids give him shit constantly about his views. So he’s raising seven kids to cancel out his one (OK maybe two if his wife actually votes Republican). So hey maybe this replacement theory thing is really gonna happen

To be fair,  women's suffrage isn't a long,  deeply rooted right,  according to Alito,  so hopefully he doesn't have to ever wonder how that dumb bitch would vote here pretty soon. 

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people like the former president, his chief of staff, the governor of the largest republican state, and the biggest mouthpieces for the party in the media are not representative of mainstream views within the party. as republicans we can report with every fiber of our integrity that not only do we not vote for these people but in our own circles we talk about nothing but small government and following the teachings of our lord and savior Jesus Christ.

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15 hours ago, Mach 1 said:

I know you’re fucking with everyone, and it’s somewhat entertaining, but usually disappointing. Granted, there’s alot of hypobele in some posts you’re fucking with, but you come across as too intelligently humorous to ignore the macro movement of the Republican Party. You’re micro examples make you seem obtuse to a bigger picture that is obvious to anyone with a reasonably discerning brain.

People are worried about a macro shift in this country toward something that is undemocratic and unconstitutional. Because that doesn’t resonate in your small profile of American life doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

But hey, you do you. 

I like you. I’m only human and sure at times I’m amused by the flurry of angry responses, but that wasn’t my primary reason for posting. This place would be healthier with views that represent the other half of this country also, at least in my humble opinion. 
 

I understand their concern and I think it’s one we share. My original point, and it seems to have been lost in the wash, is that these conversations aren’t happening to the degree that is believed. 

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19 hours ago, Nivek said:

Poverty in the US.   This is designed for Europeans, but it demonstrates how little safety net we have here.  One fellow, who lives out of his car, takes the display case pizza and shares it with his fellow homeless.   He used to be a programmer but had some health issue that caused him to be unable to work and unemployment didn't help enough and he burned through his savings thinking he could get back on track.   He didn't and is living out of his car.   One lady works as a caregiver and has a gym membership so she can take a daily shower and keep her job

I actually watched this the other night.  Lady who’s husband left and she didn’t pursue her split of the assets? San Diego, iirc.  San Diego. Best weather in the entire country. Known far and wide for its affordable living. 
 

Computer programmer guy “burned out” iirc.   As in, got tired of working. 

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