Better Call Saul- returns August 6th

[Lurch 5931]

Shootout briefly reminded me of this great scene from Fargo (TV)

[Goo Punch 4275]

1 hour ago, KaiserSoze said:

I realize you presented it that way in your earlier post, but I don't believe it for a second... you were just covering your shallow ass in finding a way to state you liked it for once.

 

 

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because i'm always so concerned about having an unpopular opinion, right? idiot.

Edited August 30, 2018 by Goo Punch

[SpiralOut 1818]

On 8/28/2018 at 5:14 PM, RPM said:

You forgot about Skyler. She knew a lot about Saul and presumably turned State's witness to stay out of jail. 

When did she meet Jimmy in his Saul persona?  Maybe when Walt was buying the car wash and Jimmy wanted him to take the laser tag place? 

Might be time for a BB rewatch.

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1 minute ago, SpiralOut said:

When did she meet Jimmy in his Saul persona?  Maybe when Walt was buying the car wash and Jimmy wanted him to take the laser tag place? 

Yup. She was all about the money laundering and Saul was their lawyer.

[Landomatic 3813]

3 hours ago, RPM said:

Yup. She was all about the money laundering and Saul was their lawyer.

Setting up kind of nice for a sequel if you think about it.  Skyler and Kim do Nebraska.

[Smax 3800]

my dvr cut out the last 10-15 seconds of mikes and gus conversation, the last part I saw mike telling gus he was wondering how long it would take till he found out about nacho

[gsoda3 3274]

Yeah same.

All that happened was Mike goes "i was wondering when you'd ask. you found out, so kill me." But then they don't and Mike says "I knew you wouldn't, you're posturing because you want me to do a job, so what's the job?" And then roll credits.

my dvr cut out the last 10-15 seconds of mikes and gus conversation, the last part I saw mike telling gus he was wondering how long it would take till he found out about nacho

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

5 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

Yeah same.

All that happened was Mike goes "i was wondering when you'd ask. you found out, so kill me." But then they don't and Mike says "I knew you wouldn't, you're posturing because you want me to do a job, so what's the job?" And then roll credits.

Correct, he's says lets get on with it and stop fucking around basically. Mike is so great. 

[henrygandorf 29194]

i don't know much about the relationship between attorneys and judges, but it seemed a little excessive (and unrealistic) to me that this judge, who presumably had no previous issue with this particular lawyer, would make time during his lunch to call in and berate someone like that. (especially a woman, and wearing an arm sling).

i get that they're cutting to the chase, and setting up where the story is gonna go, but there are a bunch of reasons she could be in the courtroom, and she's not obligated to disclose any of them to this shitbag judge.

[Lurch 5931]

i don't know much about the relationship between attorneys and judges, but it seemed a little excessive (and unrealistic) to me that this judge, who presumably had no previous issue with this particular lawyer, would make time during his lunch to call in and berate someone like that. (especially a woman, and wearing an arm sling).
i get that they're cutting to the chase, and setting up where the story is gonna go, but there are a bunch of reasons she could be in the courtroom, and she's not obligated to disclose any of them to this shitbag judge.

I took from it that he was trying to steer her back on the right path. They knew each other and he was teaching her a lesson.

[PilotsError 2312]

He wasn't berating her.

[Goo Punch 4275]

1 hour ago, PilotsError said:

He wasn't berating her.

that's what it seemed like to me. like she got called into the principal's office for showing up to his court room. 

[PilotsError 2312]

He knew exactly what she was doing, and he was trying to give her some friendly advice.  She wasn't going to find her purpose in his court room.

[henrygandorf 29194]

yes, i get the point of it.  it was not subtle.  i thought the way it was carried out was excessive and unrealistic, but hey, it's a tv show.

his attitude was basically like, "don't let me catch you hanging out in my courtroom again, missy" and i didn't think a judge would act like that in real life (or even give a shit).  so i said so.

also he thought she still worked for hhm, so they're obviously not super close.  if she did still work for hhm, i can see a number of reasons she could've been hanging out in there during a random weekday.

[pearlandhorn 3274]

On 8/28/2018 at 5:14 PM, RPM said:

You forgot about Skyler. She knew a lot about Saul and presumably turned State's witness to stay out of jail. 

Fuck that cunt.

Great episode tonight. Jimmy slowly going along with the transformation.

Edited September 4, 2018 by pearlandhorn

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

It would seem we are maybe 2 years out from the point in Breaking Bad where Gale is set up with his underground lab. I would assume all of next season is full on Saul, or at least the majority of it. Still loving the show.

[LonghornGoodfella 114]

57 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

It would seem we are maybe 2 years out from the point in Breaking Bad where Gale is set up with his underground lab. I would assume all of next season is full on Saul, or at least the majority of it. Still loving the show.

I believe this is correct because BCS started 6 years before BB and we're now on season 4. 

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The backstory is moving faster than I had hoped. I'd love a few seasons of Saul Goodman doing his thing getting Nacho, Badger and associates out of jail before merging into BB. The intro flashback was enjoyable. Still wondering/hoping if there will be a Kim spinoff. That's fertile ground begging to be plowed.

[Goo Punch 4275]

2 hours ago, RPM said:

Still wondering/hoping if there will be a Kim spinoff. That's fertile ground begging to be plowed.

yeah it is.

[PilotsError 2312]

11 hours ago, RPM said:

The backstory is moving faster than I had hoped. I'd love a few seasons of Saul Goodman doing his thing getting Nacho, Badger and associates out of jail before merging into BB. The intro flashback was enjoyable. Still wondering/hoping if there will be a Kim spinoff. That's fertile ground begging to be plowed.

I'm not sure how interesting watching Saul Goodman operate would be.  A few episodes, sure.

[PilotsError 2312]

I wonder if we're going to get a big time jump next episode.  Jimmy specifically mentioned 9 months and the lab is going to take roughly the same to build.  Jimmy seems like he's just going to put his head down and keep to the grind for the remainder of his probation.  

[PilotsError 2312]

And also, when Kim woke up and went into the bathroom...damn she was fucking hot.

[PilotsError 2312]

19 minutes ago, PilotsError said:

I wonder if we're going to get a big time jump next episode.  Jimmy specifically mentioned 9 months and the lab is going to take roughly the same to build.  Jimmy seems like he's just going to put his head down and keep to the grind for the remainder of his probation.  

I guess people think the construction will take years, not months.

[KaiserSoze 998]

1 hour ago, PilotsError said:

I guess people think the construction will take years, not months.

The first guy told them 7 months. They thought he was full of shit and sent him packing (although that may have been because he spoke about a previous engagement and they didn't want a 'talker').

I don't recall the 2nd guy mentioning a timeline but it certainly didn't sound like a moderately quick one.

[Bobby Light 76]

I wish the show would move slower but I fear that it would get cancelled.

 

I mean, I could watch a whole episode of just Jimmy selling cell phones

[HouTex 1887]

Is Jimmy going to let those three young thugs go?  It shouldn't be too hard to find them.  By now, Jimmy knows a guy who could get the money back.

[retread 2951]

18 minutes ago, Bobby Light said:

I wish the show would move slower but I fear that it would get cancelled.

I mean, I could watch a whole episode of just Jimmy selling cell phones

The music and cinematography were great.

[Red Five 40877]

I feel like the show is moving too slow, but on the other hand I think it’s moving too fast.

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

55 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

The first guy told them 7 months. They thought he was full of shit and sent him packing (although that may have been because he spoke about a previous engagement and they didn't want a 'talker').

I don't recall the 2nd guy mentioning a timeline but it certainly didn't sound like a moderately quick one.

That's probably it, but last night I wondered if they sent him packing because he used a computer to record the details of what was needed, and Mike doesn't want any possible data trail to get out.  The look on Mike's face when he opened the laptop is what did it for me.

[Moby Ric 2058]

Missed last week furk.  I think I am caught up after yesterdays show.   But Kim all the sudden has defendants in court.  Whatever happened about her breaking down after the Chuck letter?

[gsoda3 3274]

i thought the first (french) engineer was obviously full of it on top of not being thorough.  gus fring thrives on detail.  the french guy took two laser measurements, pronounced it a done deal with an overly optimistic time frame, and didn't use enough discretion in his conversation regarding prior clients.

[Quagmire 2147]

I feel like the show is moving too slow, but on the other hand I think it’s moving too fast.

Your mom is slow

[Chet Steadman 940]

7 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

That's probably it, but last night I wondered if they sent him packing because he used a computer to record the details of what was needed, and Mike doesn't want any possible data trail to get out.  The look on Mike's face when he opened the laptop is what did it for me.

That’s how I read the scene too.  Mike also gave the “Mike look” at the German’s notebook.  

Last night was a Top 5 episode for me.  Any guesses on the what’s happening with Howard?

[LonghornGoodfella 114]

14 minutes ago, Chet Steadman said:

That’s how I read the scene too.  Mike also gave the “Mike look” at the German’s notebook.  

Last night was a Top 5 episode for me.  Any guesses on the what’s happening with Howard?

He feels partially responsible for Chuck’s death. Also the firm has taken a big hit in reputation since Chuck got exposed. 

[Guest Lobo]

Howard’s father and chuck were the mechanism of HHM.  They attracted new business, through reputation.  They intimated other firms and they got results.  Howard is a  BizDev Douche rolling around town with his visor and sticks in the boot of his jaguar trying to preserve the firm’s prestige in a very difficult wake.  Jimmy will use that to his advantage one more time before totally turning Saul.  

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10 hours ago, HouTex said:

Is Jimmy going to let those three young thugs go?  It shouldn't be too hard to find them.  By now, Jimmy knows a guy who could get the money back.

Time for a Bill Burr return?

[Goo Punch 4275]

36 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Everything about the French guy was the antithesis of what Gus and Mike want.  He looked around for 5 seconds and said, “Sure, no problem.  Piece of cake.”  He talked about other jobs (and the example he used was some halfass tunnel across the border, at that; they want a pristine underground laboratory).   He gave unrealistic timelines and didn’t even ask about any of the myriad of things he would need to know to evaluate the job.

The German guy was precise, thorough, direct and cautious, just like Gus and Mike. They want the job done right, not fast and cheap.

^^^^ this is correct.

[bamachine 1231]

On 9/4/2018 at 12:14 AM, RPM said:

The backstory is moving faster than I had hoped. I'd love a few seasons of Saul Goodman doing his thing getting Nacho, Badger and associates out of jail before merging into BB. The intro flashback was enjoyable. Still wondering/hoping if there will be a Kim spinoff. That's fertile ground begging to be plowed.

Flash forward.

 

I expect the final episode will be entirely set in the present(Jimmy's present). Maybe even somehow with Kim. I expect her stroy to kind of veer away from the show by the end of this season or early next, which is what send him on his final delve into the Saul personality.

[Landomatic 3813]

5 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Everything about the French guy was the antithesis of what Gus and Mike want.  He looked around for 5 seconds and said, “Sure, no problem.  Piece of cake.”  He talked about other jobs (and the example he used was some halfass tunnel across the border, at that; they want a pristine underground laboratory).   He gave unrealistic timelines and didn’t even ask about any of the myriad of things he would need to know to evaluate the job.

The German guy was precise, thorough, direct and cautious, just like Gus and Mike. They want the job done right, not fast and cheap.

Well...that and the French are assholes.

[Landomatic 3813]

Inside Episode 5

https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/video-extras/season-04/episode-05/inside-better-call-saul-season-4-episode-5

Easter Eggs Episode 5

https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/video-extras/season-04/episode-05/better-call-saul-easter-egg-season-4-episode-5

[HouTex 1887]

56 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Well...that and the French are assholes.

That, and the German is . . . German.

[pearlandhorn 3274]

8 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Everything about the French guy was the antithesis of what Gus and Mike want.  He looked around for 5 seconds and said, “Sure, no problem.  Piece of cake.”  He talked about other jobs (and the example he used was some halfass tunnel across the border, at that; they want a pristine underground laboratory).   He gave unrealistic timelines and didn’t even ask about any of the myriad of things he would need to know to evaluate the job.

The German guy was precise, thorough, direct and cautious, just like Gus and Mike. They want the job done right, not fast and cheap.

Completely agree. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

11 hours ago, Chet Steadman said:

That’s how I read the scene too.  Mike also gave the “Mike look” at the German’s notebook.  

Last night was a Top 5 episode for me.  Any guesses on the what’s happening with Howard?

 

I thought they sent the guy packing because of the combination of all the things mentioned.  He was too "slick" and arrogant ("I can do it in 7 months!"); and mentioning details of a previous job was certainly the dealbreaker.

Gus wants careful, methodical and understated people working for him... not braggy/flashy, flamboyant talkers.

EDIT - Longhornmatt actually provided a much better reply than I did.  Spot on.

Edited September 5, 2018 by oSuJeff97

[chainsaw 9872]

No half measures.

[pepper brooks 580]

Last nights episode was probably my favorite of the series so far.  it had the most overlap, and run into BB.  Amazing how much that episode moved things along yet had very limited exposure on the Gus side of the equation.  The engineering/lab feasibility scenes were fantastic.  JImmy is almost there to Saul.  I was hoping that at the end of this episode we'd get a 9 months of saul in the cell phone store montage, and next episode he'd be back in the law game full speed to Saul.

I kept thinking he was going to sell Jessie or Wendy a phone at the dog stand. 

[UTCzech III 2907]

There was one guy in that "phone selling" montage that looked a lot like Skinny Pete.  And I was surprised Jimmy got rolled so easily by those kids, I kept expecting the bikers to circle back and whip their asses.

[chainsaw 9872]

Jimmy is smart.  He is going to build a loyal client base during his probation and hit the ground running like a motherfucker.

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Trump speaking in front of a group of police riffing about his successes. Rousing applause.

[Guest Lobo]

He's bored.  Even if he gets another gig besides the cell phone store.  The only people he's going to meet are the kind that would hire Saul Goodman, not James McGill, Esq.  

Kim's last two forays into the court house were to help the under-represented in criminal defense.  She finds a quiet dignity in it and kind of enjoys throwing her intellectual muscle around.  JImmy will see that and justify his newfound New Mexico networking with her as, "Hey, I'm just like you...trying to help the little guy getting pushed around by a broken system."  At first it works for them both as Jimmy ramps up a client base to envy (as poster above points out).  But by the time the probation is up, he's too deep into it already and Kim notes he has lost sight or what they were both in criminal defense for in the first place.  It's worth noting---Kim's not going back to the courtroom for family law, or litigation (though that would make Mesa Verde nervous), or even elder care law where her work with Jimmy & HHM would carry much weight.  Nope, she chooses Criminal Defense---particularly for those who cannot afford decent counsel (and she's under no pro bono requirement as a solo practice).  Can't be a coincidence she's drawn to what Saul eventually glamorizes.  

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shit. mods please delete/ban user. wasn't paying attention which forum I had open. edit timer.