[Discussion] Mass Shooting at Uvalde Elementary School

[Guest]

I don’t have a CHL and am about to get one because of the apparent increase in these incidents particularly since quarantining has ceased. 

I can’t believe this continues to happen at schools. 

[Hermanator 6916]

National Media:

"Check Google maps... Uvalde... oh rural South Texas. Mexicans and poor white trash. Not a ratings driver"

[Hermanator 6916]

Just now, Porterhouse said:

I don’t have a CHL and am about to get one because of the apparent increase in these incidents particularly since quarantining has ceased. 

I can’t believe this continues to happen at schools. 

You don't even need a CHL anymore in Texas, right? 

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

1 minute ago, Porterhouse said:

I don’t have a CHL and am about to get one because of the apparent increase in these incidents particularly since quarantining has ceased. 

I can’t believe this continues to happen at schools. 

I don’t  think you need one any longer in Texas. 

[Guest]

Just now, Hermanator said:

National Media:

"Check Google maps... Uvalde... oh rural South Texas. Mexicans and poor white trash. Not a ratings driver"

Poor white trash?  Lulz. You’re a true moron. Please don’t crack fucking jokes - even if you can manage to be funny - in this thread. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

You don't even need a CHL anymore in Texas, right? 

 

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

I don’t  think you need one any longer in Texas. 

THAT is fucking ridiculous. 

[Hermanator 6916]

Just now, Porterhouse said:

Poor white trash?  Lulz. You’re a true moron. Please don’t crack fucking jokes - even if you can manage to be funny - in this thread. 

National media wasn't covering it so thats what i was commenting on. Just now saw it picked up on ABC

[SydneyCarton 47809]

I’m sure the massive influx of Thoughts and Prayers we are about to receive from politicians will do the trick this time. 
 

Children. Babies. I have a 4 year old and my wife works in a school. I can’t handle this shit anymore. 

[mchookem 16095]

9 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

 

THAT is fucking ridiculous. 

 

[South Austin 52037]

Not a lick of change will follow this.

[chainsaw 9831]

Just now, South Austin said:

Not a lick of change will follow this.

Not with that attitude anyway.

[Js1 85056]

1 minute ago, South Austin said:

Not a lick of change will follow this.

Not after Sandy Hook. Not after this. 

[Starfleet Command 441]

Just now, South Austin said:

Not a lick of change will follow this.

It might as well be the case that groups of random people in public places spontaneously combust for no discoverable reason.  Our reaction would be the same.

[Captainant 27311]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a lick of change will follow this.

Just now, chainsaw said:

Not with that attitude anyway.

[Fondren & Main 6658]

15 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

I don’t have a CHL and am about to get one because of the apparent increase in these incidents particularly since quarantining has ceased. 

I can’t believe this continues to happen at schools. 

Schools are a no go zone for guns, so that's not really a solution for you.

[Wally Pryor 5240]

If things didn't change after Sandy Hook they were never going to change. 

[Quagmire 2146]

What kind of pussy shoots up an elementary school .

[ABSR 5289]

14 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

National media wasn't covering it so thats what i was commenting on. Just now saw it picked up on ABC

Not sure where you are saying that was it was not showing up.  I saw it as top story on CNN and then went to Fox to see if more info and it was lead there too.  BBC has it at the top as well.

 

[OU Sucks 8744]

I fully expect the anti-abortion crowd to be outraged over this.  Oh wait.

[naija 2851]

6 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

If things didn't change after Sandy Hook they were never going to change. 

yup. 

[Bernard 879]

8 minutes ago, ABSR said:

Not sure where you are saying that was it was not showing up.  I saw it as top story on CNN and then went to Fox to see if more info and it was lead there too.  BBC has it at the top as well.

 

They broke away from regular markets talk on CNBC for several minutes of “breaking news” about this story; and that was when there only two reported dead, and 14 “injured”. It’s getting massive coverage.

Bernard

Edited May 24, 2022 by Bernard

[mchookem 16095]

7 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

If things didn't change after Sandy Hook they were never going to change. 

yep. 

[Foosters 17691]

Here's something I remember from my elementary school: Actions speak louder than words.

All talk, no action. Ad infinitum.

As far as I can tell, kids being shot at school doesn't bother people. Despite the prayers that follow.

 

[Bernard 879]

Cops pursue murder suspect. 
Suspect crashes truck in culvert. 
Suspect exits wrecked vehicle with two guns in hand and travels over 400 feet on foot, passes through school’s fence and into school’s entry before cops in working cop car(s) can stop him?????

Can’t wait to hear how the worthless, pussy-ass cops spin this story.

Bernard

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

It's sad but my kids school is set up to protect against this. You can't get in except through the front office and the office has bulletproof glass. How fucked up is it that we need that.

 

All the classes have a shared restroom that are active shooter shelters as well. Makes me so sad this is actually needed in schools

[Bateshorn 9882]

[Degenerate Gardner 4081]

28 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a lick of change will follow this.

Verdad. If Sandy Hook didn’t move the needle, neither will this.  Lots of meaninglessness teeth gnashing will have to suffice instead. We all know the drill.

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

NRA show at George R Brown in Houston this weekend should be interesting

Edited May 24, 2022 by blacklab
user taking vacation for cr shit

[Hank_Hill 18457]

1 minute ago, blacklab said:

if you'd like to discuss gun control, your team, the other team, voting and associated shit there's a board for that that has a thread for that.

This thread is for news about this incident. 

You’re about to be busy

[Gengs1 2583]

Too soon

[Enchubben 5509]

Lots of breaks need to be given out in this thread. Not surprising due to the emotional nature of this though.

Surprised he was able to get in so quickly and easily, but most schools seem to have some portable buildings at this point which wouldn’t have the same security as main buildings.

Probably need to have a talk with my kid about what to do in this scenario; do they teach that at all in school like fire drills and whatnot?

[Bernard 879]

9 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

• And perhaps most perplexing to me - if the shooter was a murder suspect being chased by the cops and then crashed his truck into a ditch, how in the world was he able to make it to a school without the cops intervening?

I suspect the dash cam footage from the chase is being deleted as we speak.

Do you recall the armed police officer who was ON DUTY at the Parkland school shooting; the one who exited the school and hid in the parking lot while the shooter murdered innocent victims inside???

Bernard

[Bernard 879]

1. It doesn’t seem like a guy who’s planning a school shooting would just drive into a culvert 100+ yards from the school. 

2. How does the driver of this truck get out of the truck and into the school with cops allegedly in pursuit?

Bernard

 

[Homercles 10205]

16 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Lots of breaks need to be given out in this thread. Not surprising due to the emotional nature of this though.

Surprised he was able to get in so quickly and easily, but most schools seem to have some portable buildings at this point which wouldn’t have the same security as main buildings.

Probably need to have a talk with my kid about what to do in this scenario; do they teach that at all in school like fire drills and whatnot?

Breaks…for what?

[SydneyCarton 47809]

4 minutes ago, Bernard said:

1. It doesn’t seem like a guy who’s planning a school shooting would just drive into a culvert 100+ yards from the school. 

2. How does the driver of this truck get out of the truck and into the school with cops allegedly in pursuit?

Bernard

 

Everyone knows your views about cops, and you’ve made it clear again on, oh, about 10 posts so far in this thread. So why don’t you shut the fuck up now, because it’s pretty apparent that in a thread where 14 elementary aged kids died you only give a fuck about being able to shit-talk cops. You’ve made your point 10 times. We get it. Stop clogging the thread. 
 

or even better, why dont you join the force and make a difference yourself since clearly you think LE needs better applicants. 

Edited May 24, 2022 by SydneyCarton

[Captainant 27311]

1 minute ago, Bernard said:

1. It doesn’t seem like a guy who’s planning a school shooting would just drive into a culvert 100+ yards from the school. 

2. How does the driver of this truck get out of the truck and into the school with cops allegedly in pursuit?

Bernard

 

For real, cross a huge open space and the cops don't have ANYTHING they can deploy or use to cut him off or stop him? Multiple failures led to these dead children today. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

Why was he being chased by the cops? 

[Bernard 879]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

why dont you join the force and make a difference yourself since clearly you think LE needs better applicants. 

I retired from real work at 39. HPD max age for a cadet is 44. At 43 I considered doing exactly what you suggested, just to serve in internal affairs. Alas, that was a decade ago. Too late to get hired now.

Also, 15 people are dead in what appears to me to be an easily preventable crime. Seems like the police failing to do their job is a valid point of discussion  

Bernard

Edited May 24, 2022 by Bernard

[SydneyCarton 47809]

9 minutes ago, Bernard said:

I retired from real work at 39. HPD max age for a cadet is 44. At 43 I considered doing exactly what you suggested, just to serve in internal affairs. Alas, that was a decade ago. Too late to get hired now.

Also, 15 people are dead in what appears to me to be an easily preventable crime. Seems like the police failing to do their job is a valid point of discussion  

Bernard

You’re not having a discussion with anyone. You’re just posting the same shit over and over again and getting almost no engagement, so you do it again. It was a valid point once, maybe twice. Look at the likes on my post and take a fucking hint. 

[mycox 582]

33 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

• And perhaps most perplexing to me - if the shooter was a murder suspect being chased by the cops and then crashed his truck into a ditch, how in the world was he able to make it to a school without the cops intervening?

because he wasn't black?

[Gatorubet 30064]

1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

God damn.  So IF this is true, this fucker ditched his truck as a murder suspect (killed his own g-mother), then fled to the school and decided to go out in a blaze of glory?  WTF...

 

 

If the police allowed the murder suspect to enter a school, then I have to give them less than an “A” on the pursuit. 

And yeah, no facts to support wtf happened yet.  Just sayin…

Edited May 24, 2022 by Gatorubet

[Bernard 879]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

I would say let's find out the precise facts concerning law enforcement conduct and activity in connection with this incident before either condemning or exonerating them.  We don't know at this point whether the police "fail[ed] to do their job" in this particular instance.

True. We are very early in learning the facts of the case. I’ll stand corrected if new facts dispute my current jump-to-conclusions. Obviously, I’m biased. Of course we all know that cops are compulsive liars, so there’s always those pesky facts that get buried. Time will tell.

It’s all tragic regardless. My mom was an elementary school teacher. So this hits close to home.

Bernard

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Just now, Bernard said:

True. We are very early in learning the facts of the case. I’ll stand corrected if new facts dispute my current jump-to-conclusions. Obviously, I’m biased. Of course we all know that cops are compulsive liars, so there’s always those pesky facts that get buried. Time will tell.

It’s all tragic regardless. My mom was an elementary school teacher. So this hits close to home.

Bernard

Dude stfu

[Bernard 879]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dude stfu

OK. Done. It’s good to know I’ve made my point. Now we can carry on with the standard broken record of comments that follow every one of these tragic mass shootings.

Bernard

[ohchaucer 1443]

Fucking hell. It’s so heartbreaking and infuriating. My youngest has been talking non stop for a week because he gets to go visit his new school elementary school tomorrow (going to kindergarten next year) where his sister is in second grade. They’re both so exited for the summer but all he can do is talk about riding the bus with his sister, asking if she’ll hold his hand for the first day (three months from now), asking if we will pack carrots or if “do they have them there?”, and it’s been so fun to watch him be so innocent and excited. They’re just little kids.

Just fuck.

And all those NRA fuckheads just a few miles away. Actually deserving targets.

(And BL if that comment earns me a break, cool. I’ve been here and tos for years but I’m not as big a voice as the regular crew … so figured I might as well say what I feel on this topic)

[InkaUtexas 25426]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Over there.

Funny.

Please go be funny over there. Clear enough? 

[deadshank 24651]

3 minutes ago, Bernard said:

OK. Done. It’s good to know I’ve made my point. Now we can carry on with the standard broken record of comments that follow every one of these tragic mass shootings.

Bernard

Put the shovel down.  Stop digging. 

[ABSR 5289]

1 hour ago, Bernard said:

I suspect the dash cam footage from the chase is being deleted as we speak.

Do you recall the armed police officer who was ON DUTY at the Parkland school shooting; the one who exited the school and hid in the parking lot while the shooter murdered innocent victims inside???

Bernard

He was a security officer, not a police officer.  So private security.  His actions are infuriating, but unlike Texas, Florida does not allow (or did not at that time..may have changed) actual police to be assigned as security.

I am curious what Uvalde had for security….but that is better for later discussion/review.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

2 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Look closely at the tree in the foreground in this screengrab of the video on Twitter showing the gunman across the street entering the school.  I'm pretty sure that an LEO with a rifle posting up under it looking right at the dude stumbling into the school...

Link?

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

53 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I would say let's find out the precise facts concerning law enforcement conduct and activity in connection with this incident before either condemning or exonerating them.  We don't know at this point whether the police "fail[ed] to do their job" in this particular instance.

I’ll say this one thing in response to that and stfu or get shutted up- right now the cops are busy deciding what the facts of their conduct are and I won’t trust what they say, no matter what they say.