Andor

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

Im wondering if we’re going to see that other shifts are disassembling whatever Andor’s shift is assembling. Basically that the purpose is to make complacent citizens that will eventually be returned to society. Stop questioning authority and do what you’re told.

that could lead to a complete mental breakdown of the prisoners to all learn their work is nothing.

[Captainant 27638]

36 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Im wondering if we’re going to see that other shifts are disassembling whatever Andor’s shift is assembling. Basically that the purpose is to make complacent citizens that will eventually be returned to society. Stop questioning authority and do what you’re told.

that could lead to a complete mental breakdown of the prisoners to all learn their work is nothing.

I doubt it, the imps use prison slave labor to build their military industrial complex and do menial labor. They wouldn't just waste that valuable labor and all the resources that went into the prisons

[Surly Bevo 24908]

C’mon guys they’re building parts for the Death Star.

Andor has a hand in building it. Andor has a hand in destroying it.

[Trey3216 15345]

Old dude that got euthanized in the prison was that creepy orc in LotR.  

[mdmost 43001]

It’s like poetry. It’s definitely parts for the Death Star or AT-STs or some imperial instrument of death. I’ve always wondered how the Empire had endless supplies of giant war machines. This show helps show the slave labor involved. Like the little bits Solo showed of the ship yards on Corellia.

Edited November 6, 2022 by mdmost

[Xminus6 790]

6 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

C’mon guys they’re building parts for the Death Star.

Andor has a hand in building it. Andor has a hand in destroying it.

Yep. I think you've nailed it.

[Buzzrock 14903]

Old dude that got euthanized in the prison was that creepy orc in LotR.  

Pretty sure he was a thug in the Michael Keaton Batman too.

[Buzzrock 14903]

So if they just send prisoners to another floor after they are told they are going home, how have they kept that a secret? The first time they did that the prisoner would tell all his new cell mates. Maybe I missed something.

[MissingInAction 25018]

3 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

So if they just send prisoners to another floor after they are told they are going home, how have they kept that a secret? The first time they did that the prisoner would tell all his new cell mates. Maybe I missed something.

I think it was a mistake and that's why they fried floor two. To keep that Intel from spreading.

[Captainant 27638]

3 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

So if they just send prisoners to another floor after they are told they are going home, how have they kept that a secret? The first time they did that the prisoner would tell all his new cell mates. Maybe I missed something.

It's a little reminiscent of the gulag work prison system, your freedom was just a new prison to keep working. The authoritarian parallel with history is pretty noticable, even if the fascist empire is borrowing from those dirty commies lol. 

I think the prisoner was supposed to be sent to at least a different building, if not a different planet all together where everyone else has also been "released". 

[Speedtrucker 2071]

It’s like poetry. It’s definitely parts for the Death Star or AT-STs or some imperial instrument of death. I’ve always wondered how the Empire had endless supplies of giant war machines. This show helps show the slave labor involved. Like the little bits Solo showed of the ship yards on Corellia.

The common thought amongst the breakdown and Star Wars gurus is that it kinda looks like they are building the leg hub of the viper imperial probe droid

[CooterBrown 18004]

12 minutes ago, Speedtrucker said:

The common thought amongst the breakdown and Star Wars gurus is that it kinda looks like they are building the leg hub of the viper imperial probe droid

That was my first thought. I had the Rebel cannon playset that came with the droid. 

https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0418/11/1979-kenner-star-wars-hoth-rebel_1_ed0cc6b8d2d468ea0765aa273575e303.jpg

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by CooterBrown

[The Dog 44019]

13 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

So if they just send prisoners to another floor after they are told they are going home, how have they kept that a secret? The first time they did that the prisoner would tell all his new cell mates. Maybe I missed something.

There seems to be some debate over whether they have been recycling prisoners the entire time or that they sent this guy to Level 2 by mistake and he was supposed to be released.

I think the prisoner was supposed to be released but was instead sent back to Level 2 by accident. Rather than own up to the mistake they fried the floor. 

That's why the doc said "nobody is getting out NOW" meaning nobody was going to be released since everyone will eventually find out what happened.

One of the Star Wars content creators on YouTube argued this - I'll post once I find it. 

[Surly Bevo 24908]

13 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

So if they just send prisoners to another floor after they are told they are going home, how have they kept that a secret? The first time they did that the prisoner would tell all his new cell mates. Maybe I missed something.

I think it could be a practice they just started, new tougher sentencing guidelines, blah blah blah.  

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

My take was that this had not been happening before. Now, under the new laws, instead of releasing that guy, the prison guards were planning on extending the sentence for him. They arrogantly didn’t think about morale. Everyone started to riot when he was sent back and then they all got fried

[aggie08 21492]

I'm guessing that the recycling prisoners thing is a new development from P.O.R.D. Double all sentences then relocate anyone whose time expires. Like others said, it was probably supposed to be to a new building or facility, where their pleas would fall on deaf ears.

[MissingInAction 25018]

Good metaphor for life as a US "citizen".

 

[Buzzrock 14903]

13 hours ago, The Dog said:

There seems to be some debate over whether they have been recycling prisoners the entire time or that they sent this guy to Level 2 by mistake and he was supposed to be released.

I think the prisoner was supposed to be released but was instead sent back to Level 2 by accident. Rather than own up to the mistake they fried the floor. 

That's why the doc said "nobody is getting out NOW" meaning nobody was going to be released since everyone will eventually find out what happened.

One of the Star Wars content creators on YouTube argued this - I'll post once I find it. 

That makes the most sense and could lead to a really good next episode. The whole prison riots and tries to escape. 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4975]

How many floors are there? If they barely had enough power to fry one floor, there is nothing they could do if all of them revolt at once.

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

How many floors are there? If they barely had enough power to fry one floor, there is nothing they could do if all of them revolt at once.

Only 12 guards max per floor…

[closetohumping 17435]

1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

How many floors are there? If they barely had enough power to fry one floor, there is nothing they could do if all of them revolt at once.

Maybe get them to fry one floor and then everyone escapes?

[Captainant 27638]

We saw Cassian and another prisoner thinking about going for it right then when a new guy was coming into their shift, and then they learned that the catwalks aren't electrified. I'd bet when Ulaf's replacement comes tomorrow, that's gonna be when shit pops off. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

We saw Cassian and another prisoner thinking about going for it right then when a new guy was coming into their shift, and then they learned that the catwalks aren't electrified. I'd bet when Ulaf's replacement comes tomorrow, that's gonna be when shit pops off. 

bart f'ing scott

[MissingInAction 25018]

4 hours ago, Captainant said:

We saw Cassian and another prisoner thinking about going for it right then when a new guy was coming into their shift, and then they learned that the catwalks aren't electrified. I'd bet when Ulaf's replacement comes tomorrow, that's gonna be when shit pops off. 

I'd put money on this happening.

[Speedtrucker 2071]

Right there conversation was they have to take the guards when that lift is halfway down and get it stuck there.

Since it isn’t electrified and allows them to use the lift without fear of shock.

I’m guessing Kino will be key in setting the action off since he’s an “indoctrinated” floor leader in the guards eyes

[closetohumping 17435]

Too lazy to look up but is Kino the one armed bad guy that was in wakanda?

[Speedtrucker 2071]

Too lazy to look up but is Kino the one armed bad guy that was in wakanda?

Yes, Ulysses Klaue in black panther.

He was also Gollum in lotr, Cesar in the planet of the apes series reboot, snoke in the sequel trilogy and he was Alfred in the new Batman movie.

[smoky 840]

I'm guessing the lifts hydraulics are what Cassian is sawing when he's at the toilet.

[Levi 2585]

3 hours ago, Speedtrucker said:

Yes, Ulysses Klaue in black panther.

He was also Gollum in lotr, Cesar in the planet of the apes series reboot, snoke in the sequel trilogy and he was Alfred in the new Batman movie.

Aka a badass 

[hornian 5210]

4 hours ago, Speedtrucker said:

Yes, Ulysses Klaue in black panther.

He was also Gollum in lotr, Cesar in the planet of the apes series reboot, snoke in the sequel trilogy and he was Alfred in the new Batman movie.

Can’t wait to see how he turns to the Dark Side in this series. 

[kingkoopa6 8347]

Let’s goooooooo

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

Soooo good. I hope this isn't the last of Kino. Skarsgard's character is great and that scene so well written. Can't believe this is Disney.

Edited November 9, 2022 by MagicSoccerSpray

[kingkoopa6 8347]

So so good. Fuck!. This acting kicks ass.

better learn to float foo. Only one way out.  

[rantanamo 143]

[CooterBrown 18004]

Goddamn. I don’t know if we deserve Star Wars being this good.


Serkis gives his Emmy monologue and then 10 minutes later Skarsgard just puts on a masterclass.

[CptnJiggleBits 915]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Goddamn. I don’t know if we deserve Star Wars being this good.


Serkis gives his Emmy monologue and then 10 minutes later Skarsgard just puts on a masterclass.

Hell yeah! The rebellion story has always been the best and most emotional draw of Star Wars. It is what made "Rogue 1" so good and effective in tugging on the heart strings. "Rebellions are built on hope", the monologues, heart, guts, sacrafice. So many good moments in "Rogue 1" that show the heart, hardships, grit and guts of the rebellion. I didnt know if we'd see that again but Andor is not disappointing. Hope it stays on this trajectory and finishes strong.

 Diego is such a good fit for his character, hell the entire casting is damn solid.  Serkis/Kino and Skarsgard/Rael's monologues were the tits. Gotta rewatch the Skarsgard's one again. Such good detail and delivery. That's the primo stuff of Star Wars that makes jiggle bits tingle. Now if they just put Bix in a Leia bikini this series will be the best ever.

[kingkoopa6 8347]

24 minutes ago, CptnJiggleBits said:

Now if they just put Bix in a Leia bikini this series will be the best ever.

 

I got you fam

[Murfdogg21 4412]

Poor Smeagol can never catch a break. 

[Js1 85293]

The tension was palpable all episode. Fucking amazing 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

The tension was palpable all episode. Fucking amazing 

Agreed. Best episode so far.

[Scary Stranger 1714]

Pretty pretty good.

[Levi 2585]

 

Every damn episode gets better and better. I’m finding the nearest brick wall to run through after that epic ending from Skarsgard. 

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

Spoiler

Skars should whacked Lonnie. That one is going to come back and bite him. 

 

[Levi 2585]

Copy pasta from Reddit of THE speech: 

"...and what do you sacrifice?"

"Calm. Kindness, kinship, love. I've given up all chance at inner peace, I've made my mind a sunless place. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote fifteen years ago from which there's only one conclusion: I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my—my eagerness to fight, has set me on a path from which there's no escape. I yearned to be a savior for injustice without contemplating the cost, and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet.

"What is my—what is my sacrifice? I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burned my decency for someone else's future! I burned my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see! Now, the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude... so, what do I sacrifice? Everything!

"Just stay with me, Lonnie. I need all the heroes I can get."

[Buzzrock 14903]

I did not expect Skarsgård to have a more epic role as a previously-unknown character in Star Wars than as the Baron in Dune but here we are. Damn he’s great. I’ve loved him since Ronin.

The only missed beat IMO was Andor letting the two guards in the control room live. That was risky for no reason. But wow what an episode. Mon Mothma’s negotiation scene was great too.

Disney has a tough row to hoe. The original Star Wars movies were for kids, but now they have to satisfy those kids who are now in middle age, but also attract new fans. This show is on the right track: my 13 year old and I both love it.

[Guadaloopy 10960]

This show is incredible.  In just 10 episodes, we have had three different and complete action-adventure arcs, all tied together with exposition of how the rebellion got its legs and how brutal the Empire is.   It’s a masterwork.  

[McCroskey 1504]

As I'm watching Mon with Davo Sculdun I kept thinking "Jesus this guy sounds and really reminds me of Stephen Dillane."

 

Turns out it's Stephen's brother, Richard Dillane.  

[CooterBrown 18004]

I wonder if Skarsgard could pull off looking 15 years younger for a a Luthen prequel detailing how he decided to rebel. Just take my fucking money if that’s announced.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Like how Kino's fate (did he ultimately jump or not) seems to be left up in the air.  And yea Luthen should have shot that dude, he is going to get caught, killed (Syril step on up bro) but sell out Luthen before he does. 

[closetohumping 17435]

That’s just superb storytelling.  Ducking great!