Andor

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15 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Holy crap Skarsgård has eight kids with two wives (6 & 2). And a vasectomy.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

3 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

So... maybe more dumb questions so forgive me. 

 

Did we already know that ginger was a double agent? 

 

And did Dedra make him when he made his suggestion? 

 

No

I noticed that too, though not sure. She didn't seem happy.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

14 hours ago, Lazarus Bocanegra said:

interview with Gilroy in Rolling Stone 

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/tony-gilroy-andor-season-two-michael-clayton-sequel-1234597770/

It had escaped my memory that Gilroy was also behind Michael Clayton. And I’ve long thought Michael Clayton would make an awesome series and this interview crushed that dream. Damn damn damn.

but back to Andor, how crazy is it that Andor was only brought to this prison in episode 8? The story and acting of Kino to go from dutiful shift lead who was going home soon (200 days?) to believably leading a revolt/escape all within 3 episodes. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8934]

4 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

No

I noticed that too, though not sure. She didn't seem happy.

I took that as more she was mad that an underling made a really good point in front of the big boss and she couldn't take credit for it.

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2732]

Great series and awesome finale.

[Js1 85425]

3 minutes ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Great series and awesome finale.

Aren’t there 2 more? 

[nineliveslost 2786]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Aren’t there 2 more? 

yep. 12 and 12 for season 2

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2732]

Aren’t there 2 more? 

Whoopsies. I thought that was it.

[Speedtrucker 2071]

So... maybe more dumb questions so forgive me. 
 
Did we already know that ginger was a double agent? 
 
And did Dedra make him when he made his suggestion? 

Yeah her reaction could be taken 2 ways.

Disgust that the ISB still overrides her plans the same old plans.

OR

She was skeptical of his inserting himself.

It can go either way especially after we see him starting to panic in his meeting with Luthen.

[Captainant 27680]

New Lego set dropped!

 

[kingkoopa6 8369]

God damn that haulcraft! Most bad ass thing I’ve ever seen in my life 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4976]

Yeah, why can't the rebels have more of those?

[Stringer 1439]

Something's up with his mother.  You don't cast Fiona Shaw and not have a death scene with her or at least more closure with her character before she dies.

Agreed on the haulcraft.  That was great.

[NorthLoop 14216]

52 minutes ago, Stringer said:

Something's up with his mother.  You don't cast Fiona Shaw and not have a death scene with her or at least more closure with her character before she dies.

Agreed on the haulcraft.  That was great.

That's 2 significant actors now that are presumed dead that we haven't seen die on screen. Hoping for GoT rules here. 

 

The haulcraft lasers were a nice touch. I was really hoping he'd go fuck up that cruiser before he took off. 

[crash_davis 23113]

Gilroy and the writing crew seem to be very purposeful in their writing. Re the mother, she's dead Jim. I think they are making the emphasis not on her death but on her life, what she meant to the planet, and what will happen at the funeral. 

Re Kino, he too is dead, Jim. It is confirmed at the end of this ep when Andor and the other fella discuss who else could've survived besides them with the answer being probably no one else. I think not showing his death is the writers and director's emphasizing let's remember how he lived, not how he died. The same will be conveyed at the Mom's funeral. Her death will be another spark to Andor becoming a full blown Rebel.

 

Also read the Rolling Stone article about Gilroy. I'm sure equal care and thought were taken in the other SW series, but it seems like they struck gold with the creative team that was assembled for this show. It's an amazing series which happens to occur in the SW universe. I think that's the difference between this and the other series. The other series think of themselves as SW show's first and then worry about the quality second.

[crash_davis 23113]

On 11/11/2022 at 11:23 PM, NorthLoop said:

So... maybe more dumb questions so forgive me. 

 

Did we already know that ginger was a double agent? 

 

And did Dedra make him when he made his suggestion? 

Did not know he was a double agent. But it played into how great of a a double secret spy he is and how invaluable he is to Luthen and the rebellion.

Dedra being a cunt when he made that suggestion was the writer director's way of showing how much of a self absorbed fuck everyone else cunt that she is. She's the poster child for how crazy the Imperial leadership is, how full of themselves they are, how ruthless they are... 

[Surly Bevo 25057]

The shot at the end was good. We see Cassian knowing the life he has known is now dead with his mother gone. It ends with him there on a beach a brilliant light shimmering over the water behind him…..just like his actual life will end 5 years later.

[kingkoopa6 8369]

also.. our girl bix... dang.. she been through it...

Spoiler

spoiler for better memories

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19 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

The shot at the end was good. We see Cassian knowing the life he has known is now dead with his mother gone. It ends with him there on a beach a brilliant light shimmering over the water behind him…..just like his actual life will end 5 years later.

But he didn't give homie any credits, just a blaster.  He's still not 100% rebel yet, he is still somewhat in a self preservation mode.  I suspect next week shows the full monty.

 

 

[Levi 2586]

That battle sequence with Luthen was so damn good. Quick, direct and no wasted shots. I usually don’t speak out loud but I let out a “holy shit” as they panned back to the captain of the ship. The mothers droid got me a bit sad. 

[Levi 2586]

2 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

The shot at the end was good. We see Cassian knowing the life he has known is now dead with his mother gone. It ends with him there on a beach a brilliant light shimmering over the water behind him…..just like his actual life will end 5 years later.

Damn, getting me in my feels. Good stuff @Surly Bevo . This story and writing hasn’t missed a beat! 

[billfromlaketravis 11519]

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[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

They have Luthens voice on tape now, I bet they get Karn or Bix to confirm. Great episodes in 10 and 11, they've hit like Breaking Bad.

[mdmost 43004]

The damn robot being sad and wanting to stay at the home to make sure Marva wasn't coming back. Like a dog waiting on his master to return. The writing is so good. I wonder what happened along the way to make him such a scared robot. When they did the flashback to when Marva and Klem found Andor, the robot was brave and taking a protective role. Now, he's almost like Andor's little kid brother. I have the feeling that changes next week during her funeral and he somehow sacrifices himself to save Andor. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

man alive.  this show is something else. 

[Radical Larry 28645]

Luthen using their tractor beam against them was

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10 hours ago, Levi said:

That battle sequence with Luthen was so damn good. Quick, direct and no wasted shots. I usually don’t speak out loud but I let out a “holy shit” as they panned back to the captain of the ship. The mothers droid got me a bit sad. 

When they cast him, I really wondered how big of a role he would have.  Never imagined he’d be so well-written.

[crash_davis 23113]

13 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

The shot at the end was good. We see Cassian knowing the life he has known is now dead with his mother gone. It ends with him there on a beach a brilliant light shimmering over the water behind him…..just like his actual life will end 5 years later.

Also ties into Luthen's speech about the sunrise that he'll never see. I love how the writers and directors have taken the ending of R1, a movie made 6 years ago, and made it a theme throughout this series about the metaphorical new dawn of a world without the Empire.

[Speedtrucker 2071]

Great episode.

The tractor beam scene was amazing.

Agreed on the comments about Andor’s sunset scene as well. I commented to my wife, in 4 years he’s gonna see a similar sunset…

Looks like everyone is headed to Ferrix.

And again a great scene between Luthen and Saw. Damn those dudes shine together

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[NorthLoop 14216]

Real curious what role Bix is gonna play next week. I doubt they'll just leave her character lingering on as a vegetable for the rest of her life. Maybe she comes to and sacrifices herself to save Andor at the last second, like Kyra in Chronicles of Riddick. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

34 minutes ago, Speedtrucker said:

Looks like everyone is headed to Ferrix.
 

Yep. Back where we started.

It's like poetry... it rhymes...

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

Not my favorite episode but assume it was more of a setup for the finale.

Luthen will eventually have to stop thinking about the revolt at some point in the future and play the game today. btw, was that a light saber that Luthen had when he was frisked by Saw's guys?

Also thumbs down on the cleaning crew at the Empire Hotel for not discovering that a fortune was stored above the shower. For a technically advanced society, there doesn't seem to be many banking options. Unless you're borrowing to fund a revolution. 

[Js1 85425]

3 hours ago, mdmost said:

The damn robot being sad and wanting to stay at the home to make sure Marva wasn't coming back. Like a dog waiting on his master to return. The writing is so good. I wonder what happened along the way to make him such a scared robot. When they did the flashback to when Marva and Klem found Andor, the robot was brave and taking a protective role. Now, he's almost like Andor's little kid brother. I have the feeling that changes next week during her funeral and he somehow sacrifices himself to save Andor. 

That would break me 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not my favorite episode but assume it was more of a setup for the finale.

Luthen will eventually have to stop thinking about the revolt at some point in the future and play the game today. btw, was that a light saber that Luthen had when he was frisked by Saw's guys?

Also thumbs down on the cleaning crew at the Empire Hotel for not discovering that a fortune was stored above the shower. For a technically advanced society, there doesn't seem to be many banking options. Unless you're borrowing to fund a revolution. 

Either that or a fancy pepper grinder?

LOL honestly I don't know what it was, but don't think it was a lightsaber since Gilroy has said multiple times in interviews that there would be "no Jedi / no lightsabers" in Andor.

Assume it was some sort of fancy club-like weapon maybe?

[crash_davis 23113]

1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

Real curious what role Bix is gonna play next week. I doubt they'll just leave her character lingering on as a vegetable for the rest of her life. Maybe she comes to and sacrifices herself to save Andor at the last second, like Kyra in Chronicles of Riddick. 

Bix and Andor were imprisoned. Andor helped himself and the prisoners escape. I imagine he'll help Bix escape or she'll die during the escape.

[mdmost 43004]

31 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Either that or a fancy pepper grinder?

LOL honestly I don't know what it was, but don't think it was a lightsaber since Gilroy has said multiple times in interviews that there would be "no Jedi / no lightsabers" in Andor.

Assume it was some sort of fancy club-like weapon maybe?

It was the walking stick/club that he used in episode where he came to Ferrix. It collapses. 

[Pig Bellmont 8719]

2 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Real curious what role Bix is gonna play next week. I doubt they'll just leave her character lingering on as a vegetable for the rest of her life. Maybe she comes to and sacrifices herself to save Andor at the last second, like Kyra in Chronicles of Riddick. 

Setting aside that torture largely only brings false confessions, what intelligence value can she really provide- she already gave them info, right? She can’t even be bait with her brain broken

Edited November 17, 2022 by Pig Bellmont

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

6 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Real curious what role Bix is gonna play next week. I doubt they'll just leave her character lingering on as a vegetable for the rest of her life. Maybe she comes to and sacrifices herself to save Andor at the last second, like Kyra in Chronicles of Riddick. 

 

Pretty sure she's in a trailer having a conversation about the rebels with Cassian that we haven't seen.

[closetohumping 17452]

That haulceaft with the laser beams. Omgg 

[McCroskey 1504]

Holy shit, I’ve watched this twice but I forget to post in the moment, so now I’m fuzzy on details again.

Supposedly Marva is already turned to bricks (or a brick) but they won’t let her pet droid inspect it yet? I think something is up with that, as has been suspected here. As said they never showed her death, just something wrapped in a sheet and everyone believed it.

Everything with Luthen is just so good. Skarsgard is just perfect for that role.

Is Mon about to get a 400k credit infusion from the Aldhani raid stash?

That haulceaft with the laser beams. Omgg 

Avatar checks out.

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13 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Holy shit, I’ve watched this twice but I forget to post in the moment, so now I’m fuzzy on details again.

Supposedly Marva is already turned to bricks (or a brick) but they won’t let her pet droid inspect it yet? I think something is up with that, as has been suspected here. As said they never showed her death, just something wrapped in a sheet and everyone believed it.

Everything with Luthen is just so good. Skarsgard is just perfect for that role.

Is Mon about to get a 400k credit infusion from the Aldhani raid stash?

Avatar checks out.

Not sure that tracks.  B was given a chance to go into her death room and alone with Marva and passed on the opportunity.  Then cut to the body being wheeled out. 

[Speedtrucker 2071]

Yeah I think she’s dead, it was an episode or 2 ago when they were talking about her not taking meds and not eating anymore after she hurt herself trying to test the secret passages that were sealed up.

I half expected her to be a martyr ala Obi Wan in front of Luke to seal Cass’ switch from surviving thief to rebel with a cause.

[Levi 2586]

I’m in the camp she’s dead. With Kino I think there’s a chance he may still be alone. That’s probably due to the fact that I love his character and I want to see more of him. It’s Serkis, who wouldn’t? 

[Hank_Hill 18885]

Caught up in 3 days without checking this thread, is there any question this is the best collective acting in anything Star Wars related ever?

16 minutes ago, Levi said:

I’m in the camp she’s dead. With Kino I think there’s a chance he may still be alone. That’s probably due to the fact that I love his character and I want to see more of him. It’s Serkis, who wouldn’t? 

There were guards hiding out, right? Don’t think he was solo there

Edited November 18, 2022 by Hank_Hill

[Levi 2586]

11 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Caught up in 3 days without checking this thread, is there any question this is the best collective acting in anything Star Wars related ever?

There were guards hiding out, right? Don’t think he was solo there

Sorry, I meant to say “alive” not alone.
 

I agree with your first post, I think it’s easily the best acting we’ve seen in Star Wars. 

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12 hours ago, mdmost said:

The damn robot being sad and wanting to stay at the home to make sure Marva wasn't coming back. Like a dog waiting on his master to return. The writing is so good. I wonder what happened along the way to make him such a scared robot. When they did the flashback to when Marva and Klem found Andor, the robot was brave and taking a protective role. Now, he's almost like Andor's little kid brother. I have the feeling that changes next week during her funeral and he somehow sacrifices himself to save Andor. 

 

9 hours ago, Js1 said:

That would break me 

Yeah, can’t help but feel sad for the droid. Although, I had to laugh when I realized his name is literally “be too emo” - B2EMO. The poor little guy can’t help it.

[The Dog 44066]

It’s a droid. Tell it to turn off its emotions processor.

[Pig Bellmont 8719]

29 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It’s a droid. Tell it to turn off its emotions processor.