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mojames dumpster diving inspired me to go back through the early days of the thread. @Firemans4Horn, if Arsenal achieve another point in its last three games, it is mathematically impossible for

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6 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

No one does. When you can sit KDB and pull Gundogan into your squad you have crazy depth. He starts at almost every other club in every league.

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Neither do any of the other clubs really. 

 

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I am not sure it's a given that no one can compete with City. They are the Yankee's of the last 20th Century that spends everyone into oblivion. But they are ripe to be beaten with teams that are able to utilized EPL Moneyball to assemble teams. I think Arsenal has done it best of anyone, putting together the exact team they have wanted, across many seasons with the goal of a complete team that plays the style they want 1-11. Though clearly not the depth, yet. Throw more UCL money at them, lets see what they do.

 

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For the relegation fight remaining...

Nottingham Forest: Arsenal and Palace.

Everton: Wolves and Bournemouth.

Leeds: West Ham and Spurs.

Leicester: Newcastle and West Ham.

as much as i hate to root for rupert and nate, hammers kind of hold everton's fortunes in their hands.

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1 hour ago, MoJames said:

Man so are we going for the trifecta of Everton Leicester and Southampton to go down?

haven't done the research, but i can't imagine there would have ever been a relegated group of 3 with so much PL tenure

Everton - 31 years

Leicester - 9 years 

Southampton - 11 years

 

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11 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

I am not sure it's a given that no one can compete with City. They are the Yankee's of the last 20th Century that spends everyone into oblivion. But they are ripe to be beaten with teams that are able to utilized EPL Moneyball to assemble teams. I think Arsenal has done it best of anyone, putting together the exact team they have wanted, across many seasons with the goal of a complete team that plays the style they want 1-11. Though clearly not the depth, yet. Throw more UCL money at them, lets see what they do.

 

It's absolutely not a given. It's just battered fan syndrome. Competent squad building can take down City, it's already happened once. 

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18 hours ago, yoladu said:

haven't done the research, but i can't imagine there would have ever been a relegated group of 3 with so much PL tenure

Everton - 31 years

Leicester - 9 years 

Southampton - 11 years

 

everton hasn't been relegated from the top flight since the 1950-1951 season.

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17 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

It's absolutely not a given. It's just battered fan syndrome. Competent squad building can take down City, it's already happened once. 

i mean it *can* happen, but you're going to have to accrue 90+ points most years to make it happen. how many clubs in any given year can even dream of that? 1-2 is probably the answer. and again, whenever those 1-2 clubs have injuries or players having a down season it impacts them twice as much as it would City. City is damn near UCONN women, UCLA, Boston Celtics type of "just pencil them in" dominance. 

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21 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

It's absolutely not a given. It's just battered fan syndrome. Competent squad building can take down City, it's already happened once. 

I mean it literally took the greatest premier league season in history but sure it just takes competent squad building 

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5 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

i mean it *can* happen, but you're going to have to accrue 90+ points most years to make it happen. how many clubs in any given year can even dream of that? 1-2 is probably the answer. and again, whenever those 1-2 clubs have injuries or players having a down season it impacts them twice as much as it would City. City is damn near UCONN women, UCLA, Boston Celtics type of "just pencil them in" dominance. 

 

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

I mean it literally took the greatest premier league season in history but sure it just takes competent squad building 

Great with a deep squad isn’t enough. You have to be damn near perfect. 

Arsenal would have needed 95 points (or 94 with a cyborg scoring 55 goals) to win this year. In other words: 

1. The fifth best point total in PL history.

2. More than every ManUre title winner.

3. More than every Arsenal title winner. 

4. More than every Chelsea title winner except 2004-5, who also finished on 95.

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So stupid to have so many shirt sponsors for betting books and then half the video boards are betting sites and then get all crazy or surprised when a guy gets in trouble for something related to betting. A generation ago there was a sportsbook in like very third building of a shopping street in every neighborhood in London, its nothing new over there.

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15 hours ago, Dutch said:

 

Great with a deep squad isn’t enough. You have to be damn near perfect. 

Arsenal would have needed 95 points (or 94 with a cyborg scoring 55 goals) to win this year. In other words: 

1. The fifth best point total in PL history.

2. More than every ManUre title winner.

3. More than every Arsenal title winner. 

4. More than every Chelsea title winner except 2004-5, who also finished on 95.

Anyone that believes in themselves and shows up to work with a positive attitude can finish on 95 points. I guess Arsenal just wasn't doing those things. 

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So stupid to have so many shirt sponsors for betting books and then half the video boards are betting sites and then get all crazy or surprised when a guy gets in trouble for something related to betting. A generation ago there was a sportsbook in like very third building of a shopping street in every neighborhood in London, its nothing new over there.

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22 minutes ago, sidis said:

God damn, Tottenham seriously sucks right now. They’re probably going to help Leeds avoid relegation next week. 

Tottenham haven't been able to handle a high press since Bentacur got injured. Thomas Frank apparently finally got around to watching the Villa game at halftime.

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Mbuemo and Wissa played like they had a lot at stake, like a loss would be financially devastating for them and for Brentford. Tottenham probably took the first half options and reached their goal of being the first team to score and having the lead at the half.

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12 minutes ago, trza-hawk said:

Mbuemo and Wissa played like they had a lot at stake, like a loss would be financially devastating for them and for Brentford. Tottenham probably took the first half options and reached their goal of being the first team to score and having the lead at the half.

Brentford made adjustments at halftime. They pressed high up the field and played wider. They dared Tottenham's midfield to progress the ball. That was basically the Aston Villa game. 

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On 5/11/2023 at 10:03 AM, idigTexas said:

Don't spike the ball on the one yard line.  If Arsenal fail to earn another point this season, I know who to blame. 

You may have been on to something here. Jesus fucking Christ Arsenal. 

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3 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

anthony taylor just made the worst call i've seen the season. un fucking believable. jesus was stone cold fouled in the box and he booked jesus for diving. taylor was 15 feet away with a clear view. fucking bullshit.

I think the card was for dissent but yeah it was a terrible no-call

And even if he completely missed seeing it, it should have been buzzed for VAR

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42 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Leeds is going to have to win at least one of their last two. Unless they can catch Everton on GD.

Two Leeds draws and a one goal Everton loss would put them even on points and GD, with Leeds currently 13 ahead in goals scored.

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31 minutes ago, WBT said:

Two Leeds draws and a one goal Everton loss would put them even on points and GD, with Leeds currently 13 ahead in goals scored.

If you add Leceister winning one and losing one in their last two to this scenario, all 3 would finish with 33 points and Leceister would likely stay up on GD.

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3 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

anthony taylor just made the worst call i've seen the season. un fucking believable. jesus was stone cold fouled in the box and he booked jesus for diving. taylor was 15 feet away with a clear view. fucking bullshit.

Worst officials in any sport on the planet and that included college basketball 

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