The Boat Fanatic Thread

[markstanco 12,505]

5 minutes ago, Loco said:

???  

https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/rinker-boats-2320631-attwood-5340-60-1-white-60-inch-anti-glare-all-round-light-folding-artic-pole

thats a 2 pin per the attwood website.   http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/product/5340

[Loco 3,752]

2 minutes ago, markstanco said:

thats a 2 pin per the attwood website.   http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/product/5340

Easy phone call to make... have the guys look at it.  I think you're getting hung up on the 2 pin thing.   That blank hole is not wired, it's just there for to take strain off the electrical connections.   You could literally take a drill bit to a "2 pin" and make it a 3 pin in about 5 seconds.   It's DC fixture right?   +/- and that's it.

[markstanco 12,505]

4 minutes ago, Loco said:

Easy phone call to make... have the guys look at it.  I think you're getting hung up on the 2 pin thing.   That blank hole is not wired, it's just there for to take strain off the electrical connections.   You could literally take a drill bit to a "2 pin" and make it a 3 pin in about 5 seconds.   It's DC fixture right?   +/- and that's it.

Bigshark is sending me one he has sitting around.  The three pin model is actually for 2 positives and one ground.  My pole red/green light on the front of my ski boat has a little courtesy light on the underside. 

[Loco 3,752]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Bigshark is sending me one he has sitting around.  The three pin model is actually for 2 positives and one ground.  My pole red/green light on the front of my ski boat has a little courtesy light on the underside. 

BTW, I don't see three terminals on the one Bigshark posted.  I'd bet that's a 3 pin (one is a fitment pin), 1 bulb.  I think you might be looking for a "Masthead" light.   Good luck and sorry for the derail.

Edited July 2, 2019 by Loco

[markstanco 12,505]

BTW, I don't see three terminals on the one Bigshark posted.  I'd bet that's a 3 pin (one is a fitment pin), 1 bulb.  I think you might be looking for a "Masthead" light.   Good luck and sorry for the derail.

It's just a legal pole light. Not sure why they put the 3 pin in the back. Masthead not required or even needed on this boat. Just a PITA.

[markstanco 12,505]

@bigshark88 ...stop. you went to the ups store and couldn't ship it on my ups account number. You went way out of your way and I truly appreciate it. Cut bait. I don't want to crush your time on this brother, I appreciate the effort.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

Last night solo. Wife and kids come tomorrow. It's been awesome, but I am ready for human interaction. I will need to throttle back on the cocktailing I think.

[Updawg 2,261]

Someone's in for a bad day.

Did they forget to put the plug in

[Sbbruin 21,723]

Might have some slight issues with their electronics after this.

 

[Sbbruin 21,723]

WTF is this?

 

[Kennythetiger 9,334]

Looks pretty awesome, if you ask me.

[Anastasis 23,394]

lol.  that's hilarious. 

[CoTex 1,160]

Sailors,

I was watching this video and saw something surprising.

 

At the 2:09 mark they're taking down the kite, and the bowman is at the end of the pole.  Watch what happens to the bowman when he spikes the shackle?  Looks like he takes it in the head or face, hard. 

Mind you this is a very high dollar operation - the sailors are paid professionals, the boat costs millions to sail annually. 

Question, there's got to be a better technique, right?  G650, I know, I know, use a sprit and you don't have these problems, but for these guys, wtf?  You can hurt someone like that.

[G650 14,104]

56 minutes ago, CoTex said:

Question, there's got to be a better technique, right?  G650, I know, I know, use a sprit and you don't have these problems, but for these guys, wtf?  You can hurt someone like that.

No, that's pretty standard. You just always have your face away from the direction the pole is going to jump. There are remote triggers but they are not used in most cases or very reliable. With a sprit you usually rig a martin breaker for offshore, but inshore would spike it from the sprit. The biggest risk is hardware failure while you are out there. That's what killed Jamie Boeckel on Blue Yankee about 20 years ago.

Backing up a bit, the guys who run these boats are hyperspecialists. They are not just pros, but very specific ones. I know the name of the crew boss barking orders but it's escaping me now. It's a hell of a dance to coordinate the maneuvers on these things. Our main trimmer sailed on Endeavour once, and I know a a couple other guys who have done foredeck on Ranger and Haunuman.

[CoTex 1,160]

44 minutes ago, G650 said:

No, that's pretty standard. You just always have your face away from the direction the pole is going to jump. There are remote triggers but they are not used in most cases or very reliable. With a sprit you usually rig a martin breaker for offshore, but inshore would spike it from the sprit. The biggest risk is hardware failure while you are out there. That's what killed Jamie Boeckel on Blue Yankee about 20 years ago.

Backing up a bit, the guys who run these boats are hyperspecialists. They are not just pros, but very specific ones. I know the name of the crew boss barking orders but it's escaping me now. It's a hell of a dance to coordinate the maneuvers on these things. Our main trimmer sailed on Endeavour once, and I know a a couple other guys who have done foredeck on Ranger and Haunuman.

I don't know man, maybe that guy's technique was bad but it seems like they could unload it a little, somehow.  I think that dude took it in the chips.

Those things are freaking tankers.  I guess they "race" them for entertainment, but surely they're not trying too hard.

 

[G650 14,104]

2 minutes ago, CoTex said:

I guess they "race" them for entertainment, but surely they're not trying too hard.

Eh, they are going pretty damn hard. Big egos involved.

But spiking the kite off is only way to do it.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

Buddy of mine is taking off today for the 2019 TransPac.  Beneteau 47 "Macando" is anyone follows it.  They'll probably finish last.  He invited me to crew, but I ain't taking that much time off work for that.  But it would have been intriguing.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

2 hours ago, CoTex said:

Sailors,

I was watching this video and saw something surprising.

 

At the 2:09 mark they're taking down the kite, and the bowman is at the end of the pole.  Watch what happens to the bowman when he spikes the shackle?  Looks like he takes it in the head or face, hard. 

Mind you this is a very high dollar operation - the sailors are paid professionals, the boat costs millions to sail annually. 

Question, there's got to be a better technique, right?  G650, I know, I know, use a sprit and you don't have these problems, but for these guys, wtf?  You can hurt someone like that.

No lifelines.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to go ass over elbows into the drink.  At least for me.

[G650 14,104]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

No lifelines.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to go ass over elbows into the drink.  At least for me.

Yeah, they are day racers just like all the America's Cup boats.

[CoTex 1,160]

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

No lifelines.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to go ass over elbows into the drink.  At least for me.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but with the size and the weight of these boats, their movements are somewhat predictable.  When that guy brings all those wimmens and dudes wearing the brand new Musto gear up on the bow to pull in some spinnaker - those are VIP's that want to have a story for the bar later.  If there was substantial likelihood of ass over elbows, they wouldn't be there.

Try not to step on anything slippery and keep your weight low.

[CoTex 1,160]

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Buddy of mine is taking off today for the 2019 TransPac.  Beneteau 47 "Macando" is anyone follows it.  They'll probably finish last.  He invited me to crew, but I ain't taking that much time off work for that.  But it would have been intriguing.

Maybe you made the right decision.  It seems like you would want to go super fast, super competitive (one-design) or super comfortable, and I don't think this checks any of those boxes.

I think someone raced a Gunboat one year, that's probably the ride you angle for.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

27 minutes ago, CoTex said:

Maybe you made the right decision.  It seems like you would want to go super fast, super competitive (one-design) or super comfortable, and I don't think this checks any of those boxes.

I think someone raced a Gunboat one year, that's probably the ride you angle for.

Well, it would check the second box, the there weren't 11 crew members.  Way too many bodies for that long of a trip.

BTW, Patrick Disney is a tenant of mine.  He has taken line honors with Pyewacket a couple of times.

Edited July 10, 2019 by Sbbruin

[CoTex 1,160]

Gonna take some Wahine's out for a little sailin', a little adventure.

[G650 14,104]

1 hour ago, CoTex said:

I'm not saying it's impossible, but with the size and the weight of these boats, their movements are somewhat predictable.  When that guy brings all those wimmens and dudes wearing the brand new Musto gear up on the bow to pull in some spinnaker - those are VIP's that want to have a story for the bar later.  If there was substantial likelihood of ass over elbows, they wouldn't be there.

Try not to step on anything slippery and keep your weight low.

As I mentioned, no inshore match racers have lifelines. Not Js, not 12 meters, IACCs, etc..

[Sbbruin 21,723]

3 minutes ago, G650 said:

As I mentioned, no inshore match racers have lifelines. Not Js, not 12 meters, IACCs, etc..

too much wind resistance I suppose.

😁

[CoTex 1,160]

25 minutes ago, G650 said:

As I mentioned, no inshore match racers have lifelines. Not Js, not 12 meters, IACCs, etc..

Surly.

[G650 14,104]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

too much wind resistance I suppose.

😁

Indeed. And weight, and disrupting sail trim.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

Bummer, apparently they had rudder problems and had to retire from the TransPac

[G650 14,104]

45 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Bummer, apparently they had rudder problems and had to retire from the TransPac

That was the boat you were asked to go on? Saw that retirement on the Insta

[troph 24,562]

Interrupt this sailing deep dive for an ordinary pic of lake Travis last night.

 

 

Compare to puerto Vallarta ...

 

 

I’d like to live a lot of places like Southern Europe on the coast and certain parts south of Texas like PV - some of the most picturesque places in the world - but I tell ya, Lake Travis is a helluva special place too. Not sure I’ll ever want to move permanently. This really is one of my most happiest of places.

 

[Anastasis 23,394]

29 minutes ago, troph said:

Interrupt this sailing deep dive for an ordinary pic of lake Travis last night.

 

 

 

 

Fuck yes.  That sunset last night was ridiculous.  Watched it on the patio with a glass of wine.

 

Midweek afternoons on Lake Travis are my standing wellness activity.  This week was great. 

 

 

[troph 24,562]

I love the sunsets and early night boating best, but a late afternoon on a weekday is pretty damn choice.

 

About to take the kids out for some tube flipping and body toss action too.

 

[CoTex 1,160]

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Bummer, apparently they had rudder problems and had to retire from the TransPac

That’s code for “Our beer isnt going to hold out all the way to Hawaii.”

[CoTex 1,160]

I raced from Port Aransas to Port Isabel once on a j/24.  We were a pretty decent windward leeward squad with 0 experience offshore/overnight but, “how hard can it be?”

All electronics quit (vhf, gps, cabin lights) at about midnight except for duct taped on nav lights, but whatever - just go south. we realized we had a problem at about 7am when the wind died about 30 miles from the finish and the only supplies we had left were 3 18 packs of red dog beer, a bottle of vodka, 2 packs of smokes and some fireworks.  

That was a long hot morning.  I drank cooler water that day.

[Sbbruin 21,723]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

That was the boat you were asked to go on? Saw that retirement on the Insta

Yes, rudder bearing failure with water intrusion.  Got the leak stopped. Bearing was apparently replaced recently but still failed.  

[G650 14,104]

3 hours ago, CoTex said:

I raced from Port Aransas to Port Isabel once on a j/24.  We were a pretty decent windward leeward squad with 0 experience offshore/overnight but, “how hard can it be?”

All electronics quit (vhf, gps, cabin lights) at about midnight except for duct taped on nav lights, but whatever - just go south. we realized we had a problem at about 7am when the wind died about 30 miles from the finish and the only supplies we had left were 3 18 packs of red dog beer, a bottle of vodka, 2 packs of smokes and some fireworks.  

That was a long hot morning.  I drank cooler water that day.

+rep for the fireworks 

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Yes, rudder bearing failure with water intrusion.  Got the leak stopped. Bearing was apparently replaced recently but still failed.  

A failing rudder bearing is some scary shit.

[davidg 4,027]

Non-tinned wire has no place on a boat.

[markstanco 12,505]

Looking at new (to me) Malibu 247. 2008 model with the 383 hammerhead motor. New interior (seats and flooring) last year. Has 290 hours, owned by a 70 year old dragging kids on a tube mainly.

Actually, if the maintenance records look good (all done at waterski america) i am buying.

[Brew 3,045]

Love me some inboards. There just isn’t anything better for the lake especially when it’s one big ass wakeboard boat like that. Even as big as they are, they throw a clean wake. It’s wide though, so you’ll probably want to ride it shorter than a lot of boats. 

[markstanco 12,505]

Got distracted from my question.

2008 model, 290 hours. 'Bu 247 with a 383 engine. 41K with a triple axle trailer. Good deal?

What I see says hell yea. Family friend, and that was his offer on trade in from waterski america. They said they would do an in/out. He is buying the 25 VLX

[EE2B 1,561]

Got distracted from my question.

2008 model, 290 hours. 'Bu 247 with a 383 engine. 41K with a triple axle trailer. Good deal?

What I see says hell yea. Family friend, and that was his offer on trade in from waterski america. They said they would do an in/out. He is buying the 25 VLX

Go ahead and buy it. I’ll take good care of it while you’re at Disney.

[Horns99 155]

Got distracted from my question.

2008 model, 290 hours. 'Bu 247 with a 383 engine. 41K with a triple axle trailer. Good deal?

What I see says hell yea. Family friend, and that was his offer on trade in from waterski america. They said they would do an in/out. He is buying the 25 VLX

Sounds like a decent deal. Check only inboards.com to make sure. Might also check the Malibu crew.com if have any questions regarding the model. Should be great for lake Travis

[Horns99 155]

Got distracted from my question.

2008 model, 290 hours. 'Bu 247 with a 383 engine. 41K with a triple axle trailer. Good deal?

What I see says hell yea. Family friend, and that was his offer on trade in from waterski america. They said they would do an in/out. He is buying the 25 VLX

Sounds like a decent deal. Check only inboards.com to make sure. Might also check the Malibu crew.com if have any questions regarding the model. Should be great for lake Travis

[Horns99 155]

Fuck yes.  That sunset last night was ridiculous.  Watched it on the patio with a glass of wine.
 
Midweek afternoons on Lake Travis are my standing wellness activity.  This week was great. 
 

 

Hanging in Bee-Creek, huh

[Horns99 155]

Fuck yes.  That sunset last night was ridiculous.  Watched it on the patio with a glass of wine.

 

Midweek afternoons on Lake Travis are my standing wellness activity.  This week was great. 

 

 

 

[Brew 3,045]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Got distracted from my question.

2008 model, 290 hours. 'Bu 247 with a 383 engine. 41K with a triple axle trailer. Good deal?

What I see says hell yea. Family friend, and that was his offer on trade in from waterski america. They said they would do an in/out. He is buying the 25 VLX

That’s probably a good buy all things considered if it’s in good shape and has the service records. Wakeboard boat’s end up all over the pricing spectrum depending on area of the country and timing of selling them, but if that’s what they were going to give him as a trade then they were looking to sell it for $50k+. It’s going to cost him some sales tax.

[RMac5 1,550]

^^^ Boat store might let Stanco buy directly from them at agreed on price and still show it as a trade-in. Car dealers do this type of trans pretty often, or they used to.

Good looking boat.

[markstanco 12,505]

10 minutes ago, RMac5 said:

^^^ Boat store might let Stanco buy directly from them at agreed on price and still show it as a trade-in. Car dealers do this type of trans pretty often, or they used to.

 

Correct.  WaSA is going to do an in/out. 

[Sbbruin 21,723]

Just saw this:

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OEX, a Santa Cruz 70, retired last night and the crew abandoned ship. Rudder failure and water coming in per Transpac's website. Picked up by Pyewacket who also retired to bring the crew back to LA. That's a big sacrifice, but shows how sailors take care of each other at sea.

Macondo is about 200 nm out from MDR. I estimate they will be back some time Wednesday, maybe sooner depending on weather

Rudder issues seem to be all the rage.

[G650 14,104]

Just now, Sbbruin said:

Just saw this:

Rudder issues seem to be all the rage.

 

Christ, wild to lose a SC70 after all these years.