Liverpool FC 2022-2023: And Now Jurgen Believe Us

[maninblack 7,974]

Last year was amazing but was long as fuck. The squad will get very little reprieve as the season starts at the beginning of August with a stupid World Cup parked in November/December. And just for added insanity there's another AFCON next summer.

The club have a ton of work to do in a short amount of time. It looks like a lot of players could go this summer and if we're planning on competing on 4 fronts again then we'll definitely need reinforcements. Below is the roster as of today. Let's get it started: 

“Jurgen said to me, you know. We'll win the Premier League, you know. He said so.

“I'm in love with him and I feel fine.

“I'm so glad that Jurgen is a Red.

“I'm so glad he delivered what he said."

Position	Main Position	Player	Age	Contract Summer
Attacker	CF	Sadio Mané	30	2023
Attacker	CF	Roberto Firmino	30	2023
Attacker	LW	Luis Diaz	25	2027
Attacker	LW	Diogo Jota	25	2025
Attacker	RW	Takumi Minamino	27	2024
Attacker	RW	Mohamed Salah	29	2023
Defender	CB	Virgil van Dijk	30	2025
Defender	CB	Ibrahima Konate	23	2026
Defender	CB	Joe Gomez	24	2024
Defender	CB	Joel Matip	30	2024
Defender	GK	Alisson Becker	29	2027
Defender	GK	Caoimhin Kelleher	23	2026
Defender	GK	Adrian	35	2022
Defender	LB	Andrew Robertson	28	2026
Defender	LB	Konstantinos Tsimikas	26	2025
Defender	RB	Trent Alexander-Arnold	23	2025
Midfielder	AM	Harvey Elliott	19	2023
Midfielder	AM	Ox	28	2023
Midfielder	CM	Naby Keïta	27	2023
Midfielder	CM	Thiago	31	2024
Midfielder	CM	Curtis Jones	21	2025
Midfielder	CM	Jordan Henderson	31	2025
Midfielder	CM	James Milner	36	2022
Midfielder	DM	Fabinho	28	2026

Edited June 2, 2022 by maninblack

[406W30th 1,111]

Outs

Origi is heading to Milan. Mané is almost certainly on his way to Munich. Taki? I think he sticks around and fights for more minutes but I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted a move abroad.

I also would not be terribly surprised to see us sell Gomez. Great player, when healthy, and he's filled in admirably for Trent, but I think a more like-for-like backup RB will be one of our moves this summer. Gomez deserves first team football and he's our fourth-choice CB at the moment, which has to be frustrating as hell. I don't know what kind of fee we'd ask but he's one of England's most promising young defenders and if Arsenal paid £50M for Ben White, Gomez has to be worth at least £60M. Obviously we won't get that kind of money for him but if the price is right I don't think we block a move.

Don't know what's going on with Adrian but I'm not terribly concerned with our third-string keeper. 

I thought I heard Milner was about to sign a one-year extension.

Ins   

Mané has to be replaced, and someone needs to soak up those Origi minutes. Carvalho is in and he looks the part, though it's a lot to ask of him to step up into our first team.

I would love Jarrod Bowen but he's going to cost like £75M due to the English/PL tax and I don't see us paying that. Lots of promising attackers in Portugal right now, a league that Julian Ward has led the scouting on for years, and Darwin Nunez is the dream. Could see us splashing the cash on him over Bowen but he's less versatile than our usual attacking profile.

Lots of chatter that we'll bring in Calvin Ramsay as Trent's back-up. Based solely on YouTube clips, he looks very much in the mold of an attacking full back. Pretty wicked left boot on him too.

Looks like we missed on Tchouameni but PSV sources are saying that we're going to sign Ibrahim Sangaré, who sounds somewhere between Yaya Toure and Fabinho, in terms of playing style. We desperately need cover for Fabinho so this would be fantastic.

Anything else I'm missing?  

[Firemans4Horn 18,034]

Fuck UEFA

Fuck the lying French Ministers

 

up the Reds. 

[mdmost 42,999]

Why not us?

Sad that Sadio is leaving but I always saw it as the most likely defection. Excited to see mor Diaz. I believe in Jurgen. I believe he’ll find a great replacement. 

[maninblack 7,974]

Sadio with a hat trick today

[mdmost 42,999]

We turned down Bayern’s first offer for Mane at 21M + add ons.

Millie is getting a new one year deal

Edited June 5, 2022 by mdmost

[pied06 228]

Something to the Nunez rumors. 
 

 

 

[mdmost 42,999]

Need Bayern to up their bid for Sadio if we want him. That would break the transfer fee record for the club. 

Edit: the club rejected Bayern's 2nd offer. I know Sadio's getting up there in age but that's a laughable number for a guy who's going to score you a lot of goals. 

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by mdmost

[406W30th 1,111]

Just the hat trick of Ballon d'Ors and CL titles in the next three years then? Seems reasonable.

[pied06 228]

So potentially go from:

 

Mane/Firmino/Salah/Jota

to

Nunez/Salah/Diaz/Jota/Firmino

 

You NEVER know how things work, but the process of getting younger seems ok in my book.

[mdmost 42,999]

Horny. Let's go. Must mean Bayern got Mane for the price we wanted.

 

[pied06 228]

Interesting thoughts from Gutmann. 
 

 

[pied06 228]

Some video

 

 

 

[mdmost 42,999]

3 minutes ago, pied06 said:

Interesting thoughts from Gutmann. 
 

 

I hope he's right on the upgrade part because without Mane, a lot of the 2nd half would've been pretty awful given Mo's goal drought. 

[Firemans4Horn 18,034]

Mane’s 30 years old (as is Salah and Firmino). Nunez is younger than Trent. Like Darwin taught us we have to evolve. 

[mdmost 42,999]

Right. I'm not arguing we should've kept Mane given his age. I'm just hoping Nunez can fill the scoring void not having Mane will leave. I'm hopeful year 2 of Diaz under Klopp will be even better. Mo I still want to keep but that's more because he's my favorite player and I'm stupidly selfish. 

[pied06 228]

7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I hope he's right on the upgrade part because without Mane, a lot of the 2nd half would've been pretty awful given Mo's goal drought. 

 

 

Don't disagree or necessarily agree with him.  

 

I remember when Mane was going through a dry spell.  Previous season I think.  It happens.

[mdmost 42,999]

Just now, pied06 said:

 

 

Don't disagree or necessarily agree with him.  

 

I remember when Mane was going through a dry spell.  Previous season I think.  It happens.

Oh definitely. Post AFCON Mane was about the best he's ever been. Pre AFCON was not doing well. It's like he and Mo traded places at AFCON. 

[pied06 228]

Dominoes falling into place?

 

 

 

 

 

[mdmost 42,999]

Sell him to Fulham since they sold us Carvalho. 

[406W30th 1,111]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Sell him to Fulham since they sold us Carvalho. 

Not a bad shout. Would probably do really well there, though I'd kinda be surprised if we got that kinda fee from Fulham.

[mdmost 42,999]

 

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

 

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

Holy shit. This would be awesome. 

 

[hobbes2702 13,029]

Man the club really looking strong in the market again. Think we have to get a midfielder that can play Hendo’s role with more athleticism but I don’t see many other holes that need to be plugged.

[406W30th 1,111]

13 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Man the club really looking strong in the market again. Think we have to get a midfielder that can play Hendo’s role with more athleticism but I don’t see many other holes that need to be plugged.

We need someone to spell Fabinho and Trent, though Ramsay looks to be almost done and that will take care of the latter. The fact that we were in for Tchouameni means we're almost certainly signing a #8 and there were a few rumors last week about Ibrahim Sangaré being that guy. PSV fans rave about him and said he's been their most important player.

 

[hobbes2702 13,029]

35 minutes ago, 406W30th said:

We need someone to spell Fabinho and Trent, though Ramsay looks to be almost done and that will take care of the latter. The fact that we were in for Tchouameni means we're almost certainly signing a #8 and there were a few rumors last week about Ibrahim Sangaré being that guy. PSV fans rave about him and said he's been their most important player.

 

Sangare would be perfect as he can play both the Fabs and Hendo roles

[maninblack 7,974]

On 6/8/2022 at 7:45 AM, 406W30th said:

Just the hat trick of Ballon d'Ors and CL titles in the next three years then? Seems reasonable.

 

[mdmost 42,999]

Horny. When Fabrizio does the here we go for your club, it's pretty nice.

 

[mdmost 42,999]

Hitting the home stretch. Pearce said earlier that we were about 8 million apart on the deal. 

 

[hobbes2702 13,029]

What do we think of him? I’ve seen some comps to more big physical strikers and also to guys like Torres. From the clips I’ve seen he almost seems more like Bobby. Not as tricky it seems but looks like he makes interesting runs that stretch defenses and scores most of his goal through positioning. 

[Firemans4Horn 18,034]

 

[pied06 228]

12 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

What do we think of him? I’ve seen some comps to more big physical strikers and also to guys like Torres. From the clips I’ve seen he almost seems more like Bobby. Not as tricky it seems but looks like he makes interesting runs that stretch defenses and scores most of his goal through positioning. 

 

I’m not really sure and think we get lost sometimes trying to figure out who they look like or what role they replace. I think him and Diaz totally change our look and tactics. Can only hope they’re as successful as Mo/Sadio/Bobby and think they have a good chance to be. 
 

Hate losing Sadio, but thinking of Mo/Diaz/Nunez/Jota/Booby adding in Harvey and Carvahlo has me excited. 
 

 

 

 

[maninblack 7,974]

3 hours ago, pied06 said:

I think him and Diaz totally change our look and tactics.

I agree with this. We'll see but this feels like a new evolution in the Klopp era. Nunez profiles differently then anyone Klopp's had before which means our build-up play will likely adjust. I can see us using more 4 attacker sets this season. We need another starting level center/attacking mid this window imo. 

[mdmost 42,999]

I've seen some thought that Mo might move back to his Roma position on the right side and Nunez takes the middle since he's not great at assists. Jota needs to reclaim some form because that's an f'ing lethal combo of Diaz/Nunez/Mo and Jota off the bench. 

[Firemans4Horn 18,034]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

I've seen some thought that Mo might move back to his Roma position on the right side and Nunez takes the middle since he's not great at assists. Jota needs to reclaim some form because that's an f'ing lethal combo of Diaz/Nunez/Mo and Jota off the bench. 

I think we’ll use Nunez in the middle because he’s a huge, fast natural goal scorer. But his passing/chance creating isn’t bad, it’s just not Benfica used him. I believe the talent is there if we want to develop him into more of a playmaker. 
 

 

[maninblack 7,974]

20 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

and also to guys like Torres.

El Nuño

Edited June 12, 2022 by maninblack

[mdmost 42,999]

 

[maninblack 7,974]

Hopefully his knee isn't Fekir'd

[406W30th 1,111]

16 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

I think we’ll use Nunez in the middle because he’s a huge, fast natural goal scorer. But his passing/chance creating isn’t bad, it’s just not Benfica used him. I believe the talent is there if we want to develop him into more of a playmaker. 

Yeah, in 20-21 he played more of a playmaker role for Benfica and racked up 10 assists. Hard to pin down a comp for him tbh, though I do think Torres is the closest one for me.

 

[pied06 228]

Bad news.  No announcement today.

 

 

 

 

 

[maninblack 7,974]

 

[maninblack 7,974]

[mdmost 42,999]

 

[maninblack 7,974]

Leave Klopp at your peril

 

[Firemans4Horn 18,034]

31 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Leave Klopp at your peril

 

We let his contract expire. He was a free agent. 

[maninblack 7,974]

50 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

We let his contract expire. He was a free agent. 

We offered him a new contract

[mdmost 42,999]

 

[maninblack 7,974]

 

[pied06 228]

Very excited about this one.  A lot of expectations coming with him,  fairly or unfairly partly because of the price tag.