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10 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So get them from the providers.

It’s not always that simple. The most reliable thing would probably be a forensic examination of the phone, because deleting a text doesn’t mean the data can’t be recovered. Providers don’t hang on to those records for very long. 

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this is really boring and overhyped.  Most of the country doesn't care about topic, I'd say a 3 hour special on inflation would get more eyeballs.  Or a bikini contest. 

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This is how the R party functions now.  They pretty much have the past 30 or so years, but especially now.  There ARE NO POLICIES.  IT'S ONLY FEAR.
For example, there's a political ad running on the local fox station (FOX 7) in Austin during the local news for some jagoff running for a state house seat or something.  The entire ad is a guy talking about the liberal agenda and how it's going to hurt Americans and help China.  There is ZERO substance.  There is ZERO talk of actual policy.  It is pure fear mongering.  
They have figured out that a sizeable portion of Americans latch onto that.  Ask your run of the mill "republican" voter right now what the "liberal agenda" is and they don't really know.  They just know they are afraid.  It's nebulous.  It's vague.  It's what people without critical thinking skills react to.

Right wingers are fear based thinkers. It’s why olds move this way too.
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20 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

It’s not always that simple. The most reliable thing would probably be a forensic examination of the phone, because deleting a text doesn’t mean the data can’t be recovered. Providers don’t hang on to those records for very long. 

Seems the gubmint needs to tighten up on cell phones so that this can't happen.  Or maybe they already have backups/images of the cellphones.  They should.

And everyone that did it should be terminated forthwith.

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2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Completely wrong. Look who’s President right now. Do you think the President doesn’t have any influence?

What pillar was Joe Biden the candidate a moderate on exactly?  He promised to get rid of student debt, elect a black woman to the SC, kill fossil fuels, yada yada. He’s being crushed by the left for not eliminating student debt, and the majority of the party doesn’t want him to run again. It’s largely impossible to be a moderate in any party leadership position, and absolutely impossible on the right. 

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27 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

How bout either the text messages show up, or future Secret Service pensions do not?

The penalty for obfuscation of evidence should be higher than for whatever the original suspected crime was. We have double execution in Texas at least, right?

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17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Seems the gubmint needs to tighten up on cell phones so that this can't happen.  Or maybe they already have backups/images of the cellphones.  They should.

And everyone that did it should be terminated forthwith.

There is a pretty tight requirement for phones. This seems pretty suspicious because the feds are notorious for putting legal holds on equipment, devices, data, etc... Shit, I have been under one for years and I get a reminder every 3 months with a very detailed message not to delete, destroy or discard anything.

They even beat this into your head with annual training regarding the preservation of information.

 

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1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

and Margot Robbie could show up at my door naked begging for sex tonight...I give each equal odds. 

Eddie's third "Fuck you" was premature. Should've held back a few mins. LOL

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So can they call these folks and ask them to testify as to whether they deleted texts and if so what they contained and while they are on the stand bring in Airman Anthony Rodriguez and Airman Cecil O'Malley who were both working the ground crew at AT&T on 1/6/2021.

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2 hours ago, kevwun said:

So they must have been texting about kidnapping Pence.  The Presidential detail needs a purge if it hasn't already happened. 

Potential dumb question: is the SS an organization that is apolitical in that they serve the office, not the person holding it, or does the prez choose their detail?

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1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Potential dumb question: is the SS an organization that is apolitical in that they serve the office, not the person holding it, or does the prez choose their detail?

Mothafucks are supposed to be spending their time trackin down counterfeit Sacagawea Dollars n shit. I guess this is what we get for switching away from Andrew Jackson presidents who could do their own killin.

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3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I’m sure it’s not important 

The Secret Service is worshipped by the public just like someone who is an ex-Navy SEAL. The action described tells a different story about their corruptability. And that's scary as shit.

I've often wondered if the Secret Service could become a Praetorian Guard. Men and women loyal to the president instead of the Constitution. Trump evidently corrupted them by appointing a toady agent who likely delivered the orders to kidnap Pence. I wonder if they broke a regulation by closing down the "mags" and allowing unsearched people flood to Trump's speech.

They aren't wholly corrupt because the agents in the car refused to drive Trump to the center of an insurrection.

There needs to be a thorough house cleaning of the agents assigned to protect the president. And these guys who destroyed evidence should be dismissed immediately and then prosecuted.

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The Praetorian Guard (Latin: Cohortēs praetōriae) was a unit of the Imperial Roman army that served as personal bodyguards and intelligence agents for the Roman emperors. During the Roman Republic, the Praetorian Guard were an escort for high-rank political officials (senators and procurators) and were bodyguards for the senior officers of the Roman legions.

In the year 27 BC, after Rome's transition from republic to empire, the first Emperor of Rome, Caesar Augustus, designated the Praetorians as his personal security escort. For three centuries, the guards of the Roman emperor were also known for their palace intrigues, by which influence upon imperial politics the Praetorians could overthrow an emperor, and then proclaim his successor as the new Caesar of Rome. In AD 312, Constantine the Great disbanded the cohortes praetoriae and destroyed their barracks at the Castra Praetoria.[1]

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3 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Didn't Trump try to get his personal pilot named to lead the FAA or some shit?

Five people, including three high-level executives of Donald J. Trump's three casinos in Atlantic City, were killed yesterday when their helicopter crashed in pine woodlands on the Garden State Parkway near Forked River, N.J.

Moments before the helicopter plunged into the parkway's wooded median from 2,800 feet at 1:40 P.M., its main overhead four-blade rotor and its tail rotor broke off the body of the craft, the state police said.

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They should go to prison for deleting those messages after knowing the texts would be of interest to an ongoing congressional investigation.
 

They 100% should, because those government records belong to us, not them. It is the equivalent of them destroying the copy of the constitution at the national archives, I say with only a little hyperbole. The FOIA applies. They violated it.
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Im skeptical that the text messages are truly deleted. Even people relatively in the know may not be aware of all of the backups. Not to mention that worker bees, ordered to do shady/illegal tasks, may not really follow through.

also as we frequently relearn, coverups are often punished more than the actual crime.

 

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Five people, including three high-level executives of Donald J. Trump's three casinos in Atlantic City, were killed yesterday when their helicopter crashed in pine woodlands on the Garden State Parkway near Forked River, N.J.

Moments before the helicopter plunged into the parkway's wooded median from 2,800 feet at 1:40 P.M., its main overhead four-blade rotor and its tail rotor broke off the body of the craft, the state police said.


Add it to Hilary’s body count
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3 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

If memory serves @jimmyjazz had an uncle who retired from the Secret Service, yes? I wonder what his relative would think of agents destroying evidence?

Good memory.  My mom had two sisters, one of whom was married to a Secret Service agent assigned to Richard Nixon.  I haven't spoken to the guy in almost 40 years, as he and my aunt divorced when I was fairly young.  I have reasons to believe he wasn't the highest caliber human being on the planet, but I don't think he was in the business of destroying evidence.  He certainly destroyed his marriage.

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23 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

This is a great idea and eloquently stated, except for the fact that there's a large chunk of this country that thinks that the idea of everyone being equal under the law is nonsense.

The idea isn't. The reality is.

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What pillar was Joe Biden the candidate a moderate on exactly?  He promised to get rid of student debt, elect a black woman to the SC, kill fossil fuels, yada yada. He’s being crushed by the left for not eliminating student debt, and the majority of the party doesn’t want him to run again. It’s largely impossible to be a moderate in any party leadership position, and absolutely impossible on the right. 

I’d argue that these are all fairly moderate positions If you take away the politically charged rhetoric. The extreme “left” on all this is free college for all with a healthy stipend, a mandate the SC be made up of a minimum of 1 person if ethnicity/gender/sexual preference, mandating that each OBGYN/surgeon must perform abortions, no more drone strikes, etc.

HRC, Obama, Biden (the mf who championed the fucking 94 crime bill), Kamala (a fuckin cop) are more akin to Collins, Manchin, and Sinema than my homies Beto, Petey B, AYANG.

DeSantis/Trump/Pence are on the other end of the spectrum from Mitt and McCain.
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3 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

The Secret Service is worshipped by the public just like someone who is an ex-Navy SEAL. The action described tells a different story about their corruptability. And that's scary as shit.

I've often wondered if the Secret Service could become a Praetorian Guard. Men and women loyal to the president instead of the Constitution. Trump evidently corrupted them by appointing a toady agent who likely delivered the orders to kidnap Pence. I wonder if they broke a regulation by closing down the "mags" and allowing unsearched people flood to Trump's speech.

They aren't wholly corrupt because the agents in the car refused to drive Trump to the center of an insurrection.

There needs to be a thorough house cleaning of the agents assigned to protect the president. And these guys who destroyed evidence should be dismissed immediately and then prosecuted.

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Remember the hooker scandal?

 

US Secret Service Cartagena scandal 'involved 20 women'

And there were some agents recently caught taking gifts from the Pakistanis.

 

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34 minutes ago, Slacks said:

A former dude on the Internet just said Slacks could fuck Halle Berry and Salma Hayek.

Well, could you? Not that you will but if presented with the opportunity it sounds like Slacks couldn't.

 

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