January 6th Committee Hearings Thread of Dominance

[Biff Tannen 45728]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

uh, yeah.  this.  they're smart enough to know (barely) that governments are overthrown on election day, not some random day after.

yes, we have a few morons that drop by this board to insist that "if they were serious about overthrowing the govt, they would've brought guns", but we know that was never true.  guns don't overthrow governments here.  crooked laws made by crooked lawmen do.  and that shit is already happening.

Well, they also DID bring guns. 

[WhatTheBuck 28798]

1 hour ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Wait, you were serious?  What’s the subject matter of this very thread?  You’re saying “antifa” is more violent than the right wing protesters?  Seriously?

I assume he was joking. Those are pics of a bunch of white supremacists getting arrested on their way to protest a gay pride event in Idaho.

[StassneyHorn 6635]

The vast majority of conservative republicans are old ass fucks who won’t get off the couch if a fight happens because conservatives don’t protest. That’s his post. Jesus Christ. Move along.

 

[StassneyHorn 6635]

The days of cosplaying in Tea Party garb are over. This day and age is Rittenhouse open carrying and hoping, praying no minority speaks their direction.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

17 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I generally side with you on many things political, but your Pollyanna fantasy that the right is lazy or unmotivated and won’t ever do things they haven’t yet done continues to be one of the worst takes posted by any otherwise reasonable poster on this board. It’s completely illogical, contrary to history, and ignores mountains of evidence that the right is currently working very hard to implement a plan to overthrow the American democratic order in the very near future.

The right is are already implementing a horribly regressive slate of policies and make no secret about their intent to expand that agenda to unwind decades of progress. And that is no hollow threat: they have a plan to do it, they are working towards that plan, and it appears unlikely that America is smart enough or alert enough to stop it. 

Brisket is right that there will be blood one way or the other. If the right wins, they will use the power of the state to enact violence (imprisonment, oppressing resistance, deportation, seizing property, etc.) against their perceived enemies. If they lose, we will see bloodshed in the form of stochastic political terrorism and violent revolt. The former is already happening (and frankly, has been for decades). And January 6 was a trial run for the latter. They’ll be smarter, more prepared, and far less hesitant next time.

 

9 hours ago, troph said:

 No one is overthrowing the government with sticks and stones, but the laws they passed? Yeah. Hell they had plenty willing to vote and did vote against certification, laws to toss ballots, take the no discretion acts of a state wide elected official to certify elections and put that in the hands of a gerrymandered Republican legislature allowing discretion to certify or not and then appoint their own electors. Come on man. The real insurrection will be televised that’s true but shots won’t be fired.

 

7 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

uh, yeah.  this.  they're smart enough to know (barely) that governments are overthrown on election day, not some random day after.

yes, we have a few morons that drop by this board to insist that "if they were serious about overthrowing the govt, they would've brought guns", but we know that was never true.  guns don't overthrow governments here.  crooked laws made by crooked lawmen do.  and that shit is already happening.

ALL OF THIS. ALL OF IT.

 

I teeter around on the ledge a lot, perhaps dependent upon how much gin, beer, or vodka I've consumed, but this is really the slow boil on the stove that few are watching.

Here is an excellent article (*see link below) regarding something that has slipped under the radar lately: Schedule F. While it is talking about Trump, anyone who thinks any other GOP pol in the Oval Office would not use this similarly is delusional. Of course they would. We are watching in real time the secret  service display it from the recent past and they were not alone in their fealty to the cause. You may argue that the cause is Trump and Trump alone, but that is simply fantasy. Any demagogue will do at this point and DeSantis is more than happy to fulfill that role. Read that article very closely and consider what replacing civil servants with sycophants throughout the breadth and depth of government will do to this country. Grim. Very grim.

Oh, and Jeffery Clark? He makes an appearance in the article, too. While people are thinking, 'oh, he'll cooperate' and 'we've got him!' Yeah, no. That is not going to happen and this is going to get dragged along until it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because many citizens are tuning out the hearings and the subgroup that wasn't going to pay attention anyway are watching yet another Turning Point show. TP has been putting on show after show around the country, keeping the fervor going because that is going to help them to bring these disparate groups together for this fall. No GOP pol is actually working in office for the country right now, they are working on winning power. Corporate seems to be gauging which side to play, and judging by the 'secret' donations, they are betting towards the rw side.

While the Democrats are working on their power points, the GOP is behind the scenes with their hand on the electrical plug. Good luck with that Democratic Leadership. Try stealing a page from the GOP and have a road show or something...anything...because a few memes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz are going to do shit all in November.

 

 

 

 

 

*https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/donald-trump-second-term-purge-plans

Article here:

Spoiler

There are countless reasons why Donald Trump should never be allowed to step foot in the White House again, chief among them is his attempt to overturn the results of the last election, his incitement of an insurrection, and his outright refusal to lift a finger to stop the violence he’d set into motion—violence that ultimately left multiple people dead and was recounted in chilling detail by the January 6 committee on Thursday night. (Also: the fact that he struggles to pronounce the word “yesterday.”) Those reasons, though, are based on things Trump has already done, when in fact, it’s his future plans for a would-be second term that should scare the ever-loving shit out of everyone in this country, and then make them shit some more.

In a long, terrifyingly specific article published on Friday, Axios’s Jonathan Swan reports that should Trump win in 2024, he’ll unleash an authoritarian rule that will make his plot to steal a second term look innocent by comparison—which is sort of like saying that for his second act, Jeffrey Dahmer was going to do something worse than eat all those people. The “heart” of Trump’s plan, according to Swan, involves reinstating the “Schedule F” executive order he signed in October 2020. If you can’t remember what that was all about because you were too busy trying not to die from a highly contagious disease the then president had lied to the public about, the order gave Trump the power to take government employees’ jobs that were nonpolitical and protected—from, for instance, a president who doesn‘t believe science is real—and make them “at will.” Put another way, it gave him the power to fire thousands of federal workers who actually knew what they were doing and replace them with people who only knew how to pledge their undying loyalty to the 45th president. The former are the kind of people you want, say, working for the Federal Aviation Administration and deciding if a plane is safe to fly. The latter you want on a no-fly list.

f this all seems really bad to you, know that it really, really is! While Trump had originally signed the “Schedule F” order with the intention of implementing it in a second, consecutive term—and Joe Biden rescinded it after taking office—that plan obviously didn’t pan out. But now, it’s apparently very much at the top of mind should he run a third time and win, and we know this because he literally alluded to it at a rally last March. ”We will pass critical reforms making every executive branch employee fireable by the president of the United States,” he told a crowd in South Carolina. ”The deep state must and will be brought to heel.” And this is not just something Trump is characteristically blathering on about with no one knowing what he’s talking about. No, this is being carefully plotted by Trump allies who want to ensure the government is filled with loyalists, ready to do his bidding, from the get-go.

Per Axios:

Trump remains distracted by his obsession with contesting the 2020 election results. But he has endorsed the work of several groups to prime an administration-in-waiting. Personnel and action plans would be executed in the first 100 days of a second term starting on Jan. 20, 2025. Their work could accelerate controversial policy and enforcement changes, but also enable revenge tours against real or perceived enemies, and potentially insulate the president and allies from investigation or prosecution.

They intend to stack thousands of mid-level staff jobs. Well-funded groups are already developing lists of candidates selected often for their animus against the system—in line with Trump’s long-running obsession with draining “the swamp.” This includes building extensive databases of people vetted as being committed to Trump and his agenda. The preparations are far more advanced and ambitious than previously reported. What is happening now is an inversion of the slapdash and virtually non-existent infrastructure surrounding Trump ahead of his 2017 presidential transition. These groups are operating on multiple fronts: shaping policies, identifying top lieutenants, curating an alternative labor force of unprecedented scale, and preparing for legal challenges and defenses that might go before Trump-friendly judges, all the way to a 6–3 Supreme Court.

And if that sounds scary, just wait! According to Swan, Trump is likely considering Jeffrey Clark for his next attorney general. If that name sounds familiar to you but you don’t know why, perhaps it’s because he’s the guy Trump wanted to make head of the Justice Department in a last-ditch attempt to stay in power, as Clark was the only one at the agency willing to help him overturn the election. As a former DOJ official testified last month, Trump was only convinced not to go through with it after being told there would be mass resignations. “Mr. President,” acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue told Trump, “you’re talking about putting a man in that seat who has never tried a criminal case, who’s never conducted a criminal investigation. He’s telling you that he’s going to take charge of the department—115,000 employees, including the entire FBI—and turn the place on a dime and conduct nationwide criminal investigations that will produce results in a matter of days. It’s impossible. It’s absurd. It’s not going to happen and it’s going to fail.”

Yet while Trump could temporarily, momentarily be reasoned with, and Clark did not get the top job at the time, that’s unlikely to happen again. Per Axios, asked at an event in April at Mar-a-Lago what Trump would do with the DOJ if he won in 2024, the attorney—whose home was raided by the feds in June—said that he believed Trump had learned his lesson. Clark, according to Axios, “predicted, Trump would never appoint an attorney general who was not completely on board with his agenda [again].”

Who else could get a top job in a second term? Well:

Trump has…praised Kash Patel, [an attorney and former Trump administration official], who would likely be installed in a senior national security role in a second term, people close to the former president said. If Patel could survive Senate confirmation, there is a good chance Trump would make him CIA or FBI director, these sources said. If not, Patel would likely serve in a senior role in the White House.

Who is Kash Patel?

 

Patel…enjoyed an extraordinary rise from obscurity to power during the Trump era. Over the course of only a few years, he went from being a little-known Capitol Hill staffer to one of the most powerful figures in the U.S. national security apparatus…. In one astonishing but ill-fated plan, Trump had wanted to install Patel as either the deputy director of the CIA or the FBI late in his administration. He abandoned this only after vehement opposition and warnings from senior officials including [CIA director Gina] Haspel and former Attorney General Bill Barr, who wrote in his own memoir that he told then-chief of staff Mark Meadows that Patel becoming deputy FBI director would happen “over my dead body.”

Patel has only grown closer to the former president since he left office. Over the past year, Patel has displayed enough confidence to leverage his fame as a Trump insider—establishing an online store selling self-branded merchandise with “K$H” baseball caps and “Fight With Kash” zip-up fleeces.

He hosts an online show and podcast, “Kash’s Corner,” and he is a prolific poster on Trump’s social media network, Truth Social. In May, Patel re-truthed (the Truth Social equivalent of re-tweeting) a meme of himself and special counsel John Durham “perp walking” a handcuffed Hillary Clinton. He also set up the Kash Patel Legal Offense Trust to raise money to sue journalists. He recently authored an illustrated children’s book about the Russia investigation in which “King Donald” is a character persecuted by “Hillary Queenton and her shifty knight.”

 

Meanwhile, angel of darkness Stephen Miller is reportedly also hard at work “identifying and assembling a list of lawyers who would be ready to fill the key general counsel jobs across government in a second-term Trump administration.” Trump, you see, didn’t like the lawyers he had around last time because they were always telling him his demands “were illegal and could not be implemented.” Can’t have any of that! Miller, according to Axios, “has his eye out for general counsels who will aggressively implement Trump’s orders and skeptically interrogate any career government attorney who tells them their plans are unlawful or cannot be done.” In other words, he’s looking for people who would possibly break the law for Trump. Elsewhere, the ex-president has apparently been spending “significant amounts of his time talking to luminaries of the ‘Stop the Steal’ movement, including attorney Boris Epshteyn and the pillow entrepreneur Mike Lindell, who has spent at least $25 million of his own money sowing doubts about the 2020 election result.”

In other words, we should all be very, very afraid, and perhaps try to ensure this guy is never allowed to have an inch of power again.

 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19220]

10 hours ago, Satchel said:

But we saw him run from his own people. It’s on tape.

The rubes didn't see him run since they were tuned into Fox's riveting coverage of brown and gay people destroying 'Murica.  Sponsored by weiner pill and gun manufacturers.

[Pato del Muerto 52589]

The entire point of 1/6 was to steer events into an alternate lane where they could then use laws already on the books.  Make the argument that the VP doesn’t have to accept the electoral votes and can send it to congress and when he doesn’t fall in line there, gin up a reason and a way to remove him. 
 

if he had gone into the limo and driven off, you’d have had the hawleys and Cruz’s ready to rush back into chambers and refuse to wait for his return, already having the language needed to proceed as prescribed when the VP is absent, and excuses as to why they couldn’t wait for his return (this is too important, must show strength, call him a coward for leaving while they stayed, etc) Because they rehearsed it. 
 

Didn’t  quite work, but the system stress test revealed plenty of pinch points that they went to work on at local and state levels. 

[troph 24905]

9 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

uh, yeah.  this.  they're smart enough to know (barely) that governments are overthrown on election day, not some random day after.

yes, we have a few morons that drop by this board to insist that "if they were serious about overthrowing the govt, they would've brought guns", but we know that was never true.  guns don't overthrow governments here.  crooked laws made by crooked lawmen do.  and that shit is already happening.

Even in the worst authoritarian governments they feign an affinity for democracy with sham elections. That’s always the preferred path, nobody truly wins with force, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen but when it does the lack of a strong central government is usually one of the causes.  Setting up for sham elections after first projecting the democrats are the stealers is the playbook, it’s propaganda 101 - create a problem that doesn’t exist, propose a solution to the problem that takes you to your goal. Win, profit, and destroy a country. 

Edited July 23, 2022 by troph

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

17 minutes ago, troph said:

Even in the worst authoritarian governments they feign an affinity for democracy with sham elections.

SEE: Orban, Viktor  for a Grade A example. Pundits believe the last free election in Hungary was over a decade ago.

 

[Captainant 27762]

1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

SEE: Orban, Viktor  for a Grade A example. Pundits believe the last free election in Hungary was over a decade ago.

 

And yet as we speak he's trolling the EU by saying they need to do more than just sanctions because it isn't working. But just nevermind that orban/hungary undercut pretty much every full-press sanctions effort that the west made. 

So weird how the authoritarian leaders of democratic nations keep blocking and making space for vlads russia 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So weird how the authoritarian leaders of democratic nations keep blocking and making space for vlads russia 

The accusation (by Orban et al supporters) of 'globalists' trying to rule the world is betrayed by the actions of the authoritarians who attempt to squash any effort at real democratic action. The dissonance is stunning at times.

[PhillyD 1257]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

 

ALL OF THIS. ALL OF IT.

 

I teeter around on the ledge a lot, perhaps dependent upon how much gin, beer, or vodka I've consumed, but this is really the slow boil on the stove that few are watching.

Here is an excellent article (*see link below) regarding something that has slipped under the radar lately: Schedule F. While it is talking about Trump, anyone who thinks any other GOP pol in the Oval Office would not use this similarly is delusional. Of course they would. We are watching in real time the secret  service display it from the recent past and they were not alone in their fealty to the cause. You may argue that the cause is Trump and Trump alone, but that is simply fantasy. Any demagogue will do at this point and DeSantis is more than happy to fulfill that role. Read that article very closely and consider what replacing civil servants with sycophants throughout the breadth and depth of government will do to this country. Grim. Very grim.

Oh, and Jeffery Clark? He makes an appearance in the article, too. While people are thinking, 'oh, he'll cooperate' and 'we've got him!' Yeah, no. That is not going to happen and this is going to get dragged along until it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because many citizens are tuning out the hearings and the subgroup that wasn't going to pay attention anyway are watching yet another Turning Point show. TP has been putting on show after show around the country, keeping the fervor going because that is going to help them to bring these disparate groups together for this fall. No GOP pol is actually working in office for the country right now, they are working on winning power. Corporate seems to be gauging which side to play, and judging by the 'secret' donations, they are betting towards the rw side.

While the Democrats are working on their power points, the GOP is behind the scenes with their hand on the electrical plug. Good luck with that Democratic Leadership. Try stealing a page from the GOP and have a road show or something...anything...because a few memes of Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz are going to do shit all in November.

 

 

 

 

 

*https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/donald-trump-second-term-purge-plans

Article here:

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There are countless reasons why Donald Trump should never be allowed to step foot in the White House again, chief among them is his attempt to overturn the results of the last election, his incitement of an insurrection, and his outright refusal to lift a finger to stop the violence he’d set into motion—violence that ultimately left multiple people dead and was recounted in chilling detail by the January 6 committee on Thursday night. (Also: the fact that he struggles to pronounce the word “yesterday.”) Those reasons, though, are based on things Trump has already done, when in fact, it’s his future plans for a would-be second term that should scare the ever-loving shit out of everyone in this country, and then make them shit some more.

In a long, terrifyingly specific article published on Friday, Axios’s Jonathan Swan reports that should Trump win in 2024, he’ll unleash an authoritarian rule that will make his plot to steal a second term look innocent by comparison—which is sort of like saying that for his second act, Jeffrey Dahmer was going to do something worse than eat all those people. The “heart” of Trump’s plan, according to Swan, involves reinstating the “Schedule F” executive order he signed in October 2020. If you can’t remember what that was all about because you were too busy trying not to die from a highly contagious disease the then president had lied to the public about, the order gave Trump the power to take government employees’ jobs that were nonpolitical and protected—from, for instance, a president who doesn‘t believe science is real—and make them “at will.” Put another way, it gave him the power to fire thousands of federal workers who actually knew what they were doing and replace them with people who only knew how to pledge their undying loyalty to the 45th president. The former are the kind of people you want, say, working for the Federal Aviation Administration and deciding if a plane is safe to fly. The latter you want on a no-fly list.

f this all seems really bad to you, know that it really, really is! While Trump had originally signed the “Schedule F” order with the intention of implementing it in a second, consecutive term—and Joe Biden rescinded it after taking office—that plan obviously didn’t pan out. But now, it’s apparently very much at the top of mind should he run a third time and win, and we know this because he literally alluded to it at a rally last March. ”We will pass critical reforms making every executive branch employee fireable by the president of the United States,” he told a crowd in South Carolina. ”The deep state must and will be brought to heel.” And this is not just something Trump is characteristically blathering on about with no one knowing what he’s talking about. No, this is being carefully plotted by Trump allies who want to ensure the government is filled with loyalists, ready to do his bidding, from the get-go.

Per Axios:

Trump remains distracted by his obsession with contesting the 2020 election results. But he has endorsed the work of several groups to prime an administration-in-waiting. Personnel and action plans would be executed in the first 100 days of a second term starting on Jan. 20, 2025. Their work could accelerate controversial policy and enforcement changes, but also enable revenge tours against real or perceived enemies, and potentially insulate the president and allies from investigation or prosecution.

They intend to stack thousands of mid-level staff jobs. Well-funded groups are already developing lists of candidates selected often for their animus against the system—in line with Trump’s long-running obsession with draining “the swamp.” This includes building extensive databases of people vetted as being committed to Trump and his agenda. The preparations are far more advanced and ambitious than previously reported. What is happening now is an inversion of the slapdash and virtually non-existent infrastructure surrounding Trump ahead of his 2017 presidential transition. These groups are operating on multiple fronts: shaping policies, identifying top lieutenants, curating an alternative labor force of unprecedented scale, and preparing for legal challenges and defenses that might go before Trump-friendly judges, all the way to a 6–3 Supreme Court.

And if that sounds scary, just wait! According to Swan, Trump is likely considering Jeffrey Clark for his next attorney general. If that name sounds familiar to you but you don’t know why, perhaps it’s because he’s the guy Trump wanted to make head of the Justice Department in a last-ditch attempt to stay in power, as Clark was the only one at the agency willing to help him overturn the election. As a former DOJ official testified last month, Trump was only convinced not to go through with it after being told there would be mass resignations. “Mr. President,” acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue told Trump, “you’re talking about putting a man in that seat who has never tried a criminal case, who’s never conducted a criminal investigation. He’s telling you that he’s going to take charge of the department—115,000 employees, including the entire FBI—and turn the place on a dime and conduct nationwide criminal investigations that will produce results in a matter of days. It’s impossible. It’s absurd. It’s not going to happen and it’s going to fail.”

Yet while Trump could temporarily, momentarily be reasoned with, and Clark did not get the top job at the time, that’s unlikely to happen again. Per Axios, asked at an event in April at Mar-a-Lago what Trump would do with the DOJ if he won in 2024, the attorney—whose home was raided by the feds in June—said that he believed Trump had learned his lesson. Clark, according to Axios, “predicted, Trump would never appoint an attorney general who was not completely on board with his agenda [again].”

Who else could get a top job in a second term? Well:

Trump has…praised Kash Patel, [an attorney and former Trump administration official], who would likely be installed in a senior national security role in a second term, people close to the former president said. If Patel could survive Senate confirmation, there is a good chance Trump would make him CIA or FBI director, these sources said. If not, Patel would likely serve in a senior role in the White House.

Who is Kash Patel?

 

Patel…enjoyed an extraordinary rise from obscurity to power during the Trump era. Over the course of only a few years, he went from being a little-known Capitol Hill staffer to one of the most powerful figures in the U.S. national security apparatus…. In one astonishing but ill-fated plan, Trump had wanted to install Patel as either the deputy director of the CIA or the FBI late in his administration. He abandoned this only after vehement opposition and warnings from senior officials including [CIA director Gina] Haspel and former Attorney General Bill Barr, who wrote in his own memoir that he told then-chief of staff Mark Meadows that Patel becoming deputy FBI director would happen “over my dead body.”

Patel has only grown closer to the former president since he left office. Over the past year, Patel has displayed enough confidence to leverage his fame as a Trump insider—establishing an online store selling self-branded merchandise with “K$H” baseball caps and “Fight With Kash” zip-up fleeces.

He hosts an online show and podcast, “Kash’s Corner,” and he is a prolific poster on Trump’s social media network, Truth Social. In May, Patel re-truthed (the Truth Social equivalent of re-tweeting) a meme of himself and special counsel John Durham “perp walking” a handcuffed Hillary Clinton. He also set up the Kash Patel Legal Offense Trust to raise money to sue journalists. He recently authored an illustrated children’s book about the Russia investigation in which “King Donald” is a character persecuted by “Hillary Queenton and her shifty knight.”

 

Meanwhile, angel of darkness Stephen Miller is reportedly also hard at work “identifying and assembling a list of lawyers who would be ready to fill the key general counsel jobs across government in a second-term Trump administration.” Trump, you see, didn’t like the lawyers he had around last time because they were always telling him his demands “were illegal and could not be implemented.” Can’t have any of that! Miller, according to Axios, “has his eye out for general counsels who will aggressively implement Trump’s orders and skeptically interrogate any career government attorney who tells them their plans are unlawful or cannot be done.” In other words, he’s looking for people who would possibly break the law for Trump. Elsewhere, the ex-president has apparently been spending “significant amounts of his time talking to luminaries of the ‘Stop the Steal’ movement, including attorney Boris Epshteyn and the pillow entrepreneur Mike Lindell, who has spent at least $25 million of his own money sowing doubts about the 2020 election result.”

In other words, we should all be very, very afraid, and perhaps try to ensure this guy is never allowed to have an inch of power again.

 

 

You just pushed me onto Brisket's ledge. 

[Captainant 27762]

53 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The accusation (by Orban et al supporters) of 'globalists' trying to rule the world is betrayed by the actions of the authoritarians who attempt to squash any effort at real democratic action. The dissonance is stunning at times.

Classic (((globalists))) amirite?? Totes no antisemitism there lmao

[Hagbard Celine 10921]

20 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

We need to start a campaign to de-monetize Texags.  When I click on that link, I see ads for Walgreens, etrade and Firestone. I doubt those companies are aware they're advertising on a white supremist website. Anyone want to join me?

go on....

[Hagbard Celine 10921]

19 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Y'all pussies ought to try out the aggy Screenshot thread in the $9.95 forum.  I read 4 pages of that in one setting the other day and completely forgot how to brush my teeth.

texifornia and the other cappers are doing yeoman's work but i wish they would do it in a 16:9 formfactor rather than using a phone - the content gets repeated too much, it's impossible to edit and quote, so the aggylogic gets overwhelmed

also, the caps shine like beacons in darkmode which for me makes consumption at night untenable

[Hagbard Celine 10921]

16 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

nobody still on trump's side is going under oath.

and then sit in jail for contempt when called to testify, either at the hearings, or the upcoming trials, possibly their trials

[Biff Tannen 45728]

7 hours ago, troph said:

Even in the worst authoritarian governments they feign an affinity for democracy with sham elections. That’s always the preferred path, nobody truly wins with force, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen but when it does the lack of a strong central government is usually one of the causes.  Setting up for sham elections after first projecting the democrats are the stealers is the playbook, it’s propaganda 101 - create a problem that doesn’t exist, propose a solution to the problem that takes you to your goal. Win, profit, and destroy a country. 

A billion percent this. End thread. This is it. This is the plan. 

[troph 24905]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

A billion percent this. End thread. This is it. This is the plan. 

At 46 years old I might not even give a fuck even as the queer kid on the block but one climate change is fucking with my hobbies which are key to the distraction method of tolerating the oppression and two I have enough to let me do that, others don’t. I hope the “ordinary” masses will wake up and vote, if half of the 100,000,000 that sit on the sideline everytime vote then these assholes are toast. Apathy is our worst enemy. 

[Biff Tannen 45728]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

At 46 years old I might not even give a fuck even as the queer kid on the block but one climate change is fucking with my hobbies which are key to the distraction method of tolerating the oppression and two I have enough to let me do that, others don’t. I hope the “ordinary” masses will wake up and vote, if half of the 100,000,000 that sit on the sideline everytime vote then these assholes are toast. Apathy is our worst enemy. 

Yep. I’m going hiking next year to fulfill a life dream before it is too late. After that, let the chips fall where they may. I really think this just may be the way the earth resets. 

[Born to Run 6569]

Yep. I’m going hiking next year to fulfill a life dream before it is too late. After that, let the chips fall where they may. I really think this just may be the way the earth resets. 

Where to?

I'm trying to do John Muire trail, but also weighing a trip to Alaska I just got invited on. Want to do Both before its too late.

[troph 24905]

This is unbelievable. 
 

when we dove in Tahiti a few months back we had the same sense of dread for the planet. Ugh.
 

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by troph

[Eskimohorn 5642]

Even in the worst authoritarian governments they feign an affinity for democracy with sham elections. That’s always the preferred path, nobody truly wins with force, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen but when it does the lack of a strong central government is usually one of the causes.  Setting up for sham elections after first projecting the democrats are the stealers is the playbook, it’s propaganda 101 - create a problem that doesn’t exist, propose a solution to the problem that takes you to your goal. Win, profit, and destroy a country. 

Yep, they’ve been doing it for years.

For election security, voter lists have been purged for years. Causing countless people (usually dems) to be turned away on election day.

Mailin ballots are rejected due to technicalities. Thousands (more dems) are dismissed without the voter being notified, or notified after the election.

Polling locations closed. Consolidated away from dem voters. Using big data, district lines are so manipulated that there are hardly any contested elections. And when elections are not close, voter apathy follows.

North Carolina is so bad, its hardly a democracy. A minority party controls the state.

Its been like this since Reconstruction. Except now the southern whites are aligned for (now global) corporate interests.

[Gil Bang 26007]

16 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Yep, they’ve been doing it for years.

For election security, voter lists have been purged for years. Causing countless people (usually dems) to be turned away on election day.

Mailin ballots are rejected due to technicalities. Thousands (more dems) are dismissed without the voter being notified, or notified after the election.

Polling locations closed. Consolidated away from dem voters. Using big data, district lines are so manipulated that there are hardly any contested elections. And when elections are not close, voter apathy follows.

North Carolina is so bad, its hardly a democracy. A minority party controls the state.

Its been like this since Reconstruction. Except now the southern whites are aligned for (now global) corporate interests.

It's been a few years (and a few beers) but I'm pretty sure that 60 minutes did a story about the campus of North Carolina A&T, a historically black college, having  congressional districts split the campus in two.  You live in Dorm A, you literally have a different congressman than your friend across the street in Dorm B.

Can't have all those uppity black kids with political power...need to divide that shit in half and dilute it. 

[Gil Bang 26007]

found it:

 

GREENSBORO, North Carolina — North Carolina A&T State University may look like any other college campus, but there’s an invisible line splitting it down the middle, carving it into two different congressional districts.

North Carolina A&T is the largest historically black public college in the country. Each day, students walking from the library to the main dining hall regularly cross from the Sixth Congressional District to the 13th District. Students who move from a dorm on the north side of campus to one on the south side have to reregister to vote in a new district, and then reregister again if they move back.

Until Republican redistricting in 2016, the campus and its 10,000 students were packed into the 12th Congressional District represented by Democratic Rep. Alma Adams, an African-American alum of North Carolina A&T, but now it’s split between two white male Republicans: Reps. Mark Walker of the Sixth District and Ted Budd of the 13th.

“We’ve got two pretty conservative white men that don’t look like the majority of students,” said Reggie Weaver, who directs campus outreach for Common Cause North Carolina, a voting rights and campaign finance reform group in the state.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/8/17271766/north-carolina-gerrymandering-2018-midterms-partisan-redistricting

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26468]

Those college kids are pretty clever. With any luck they can feign rabid support for both Walker and Budd to the point that the two attack each other on camera in a red-faced frenzy of torn polyester and chicken-feather sweat.

[Hagbard Celine 10921]

Paid $3 tonight (Prime) to stream Seven Days in May.   Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Fredric March and Ava Gardner headline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_in_May

I assume most people up in here are well-versed and well read.   I only learned of this movie a couple of months ago.   It is like a sober anti-strangelove, and while it's sort of Manchurian it is Specifically about one subject: SEDITION.

I often say time runs in all directions and this film ('64) and the book it was based on ('62) are part of the same cannon as this thread, Prouty's Secret Team ('74), Stone's JFK ('91) and 9/11.

Secret base fu, sudden holiday fu, massive military drills fu, command and control tradecraft fu, co-opted media fu, insiders on the hill fu, missing text messages fu, thousands of troops in the air fu, and so much moar.

Joe Bob says check it out.

[Captainant 27762]

Interesting development with the SS... Some phones still have some lost messages and metadata

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/secret-service-text-messages-jan-6-b2129897.html

[Biff Tannen 45728]

5 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Where to?

I'm trying to do John Muire trail, but also weighing a trip to Alaska I just got invited on. Want to do Both before its too late.

PCT. Whole length. Mexico to Canada. 

[DDD Dad 14348]

21 hours ago, PhillyD said:

You just pushed me onto Brisket's ledge. 

 

[Gil Bang 26007]

[Gil Bang 26007]

 

 

[Carl Spackler 3503]

"Prepared to contemplate a subpoena"?  SMDH  

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

On 7/23/2022 at 5:28 PM, Biff Tannen said:

Yep. I’m going hiking next year to fulfill a life dream before it is too late. After that, let the chips fall where they may. I really think this just may be the way the earth resets. 

Same here - it's 3 years for me.

19 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

PCT. Whole length. Mexico to Canada. 

Northbound AT through hike for me. PCT is next, assuming ...

Edited July 24, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

[Born to Run 6569]

PCT. Whole length. Mexico to Canada. 

Fucking Kudos man. Iirc you were planning this pre covid?

[Biff Tannen 45728]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

20 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

PCT. Whole length. Mexico to Canada. 

Fucking Kudos man. Iirc you were planning this pre covid?

Yep. Had my permit and flight to San Diego in March of 2020. I actually pulled the plug about a week before Covid officially fucked up the world due to some work issues, but Covid would have canceled it anyway. 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

3 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

"Prepared to contemplate a subpoena"?  SMDH  

She would make a great Democrat. 

[Frank Erwin 203]

On 7/23/2022 at 9:41 AM, Mrs Whiggins said:

SEE: Orban, Viktor  for a Grade A example. Pundits believe the last free election in Hungary was over a decade ago.

 

There is a common denominator. Bannon is the consultant for both Trump and Orban

[Gil Bang 26007]

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

On 7/23/2022 at 9:46 PM, Biff Tannen said:

PCT. Whole length. Mexico to Canada. 

Knowing the planning for these things is intense, it would be cool to know if/when you came through.  

[Biff Tannen 45728]

1 hour ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Knowing the planning for these things is intense, it would be cool to know if/when you came through.  

I’ll post in the backpacking thread. 

[Gil Bang 26007]

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19142]

8 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

I mean, I detest her stance on abortion, but this is fucking great.  

[TwiceHorn 31534]

On 7/24/2022 at 4:49 PM, Carl Spackler said:

"Prepared to contemplate a subpoena"?  SMDH  

To be fair, though, the Committee has to vote to issue a subpoena.

She, probably wisely, doesn't want to imply that the outcome of such a vote is predetermined.

[TwiceHorn 31534]

 

Smarmy, chickenshit fuckweasel.

[HenryJames 66169]

 

[HenryJames 66169]

 

[jimmyjazz 46124]

14 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Smarmy, chickenshit fuckweasel.

Question:  are fuckweasels and ditchpigs gender specific?  Asking for a friend.

[SaucyJack 3503]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Question:  are fuckweasels and ditchpigs gender specific?  Asking for a friend.

No. 
In the wild up to seven genders are recognized.

[The Dog 44138]

Quote

The emails showed the group initially hoped to get Republican state legislatures or governors to join their plans and give them the imprimatur of legitimacy. But by December, it was clear no authorities would agree to go along, so the Trump lawyers set their sights on pressuring Mr. Pence, who was scheduled to preside over a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6.

 

[Sbbruin 21867]

On 7/24/2022 at 6:38 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

She would make a great Democrat. 

Because she calls out the R establishment for their bullshittery?  She has a very strong conservative track record, but doesn't play ball according to Trump's edicts.  I applaud her.  But she is far from a democrat policy-wise.