January 6th Committee Hearings Thread of Dominance

[Pato del Muerto 52,688]

If there was a call from Cheney to a hijacker’s phone on 9/11, they don’t get to wave it away by claiming wrong number. 

[TwiceHorn 31,653]

19 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

. . . and I care why?

Are we after a criminal conviction or not?

Or do we just want to be able to spew sound and fury, signifying nothing, into the ether?

This isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced, so what's the point of getting worked up over a salacious but ultimately inconclusive factoid.

Just about everything revealed these days I'm looking at as useful in a criminal case or not useful in a criminal case.

Edited September 27, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[jimmyjazz 46,372]

OK, cool.  Hook'em.

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22 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If there was a call from Cheney to a hijacker’s phone on 9/11, they don’t get to wave it away by claiming wrong number. 

What delay industries?  Art Qaeda industries?  Nah, nah you’re way off.  Wrong number!  /cosmocheney

[Pescado_Rojo 19,452]

"Hello"

"It's over. National Guard is on the way. Get our guys out of there and go to the hotel. I'll call you later."

"okay"

less than 9 seconds. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,536]

Must be a zero chance that the WH phone systems wouldn’t know which extension called that phone number. Imagine if a staffer was calling the a reporter  about inside info, but the WH couldn’t track which extension. Impossible.

[TwiceHorn 31,653]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Must be a zero chance that the WH phone systems wouldn’t know which extension called that phone number. Imagine if a staffer was calling the a reporter  about inside info, but the WH couldn’t track which extension. Impossible.

If they are being operated "according to Hoyle."  I think we already know the answer to that.

[jimmyjazz 46,372]

It wouldn't shock me if there were a bunch of "public" phones in the WH, in conference rooms, etc.

Edited September 27, 2022 by jimmyjazz

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It's insane to me the number of missing phone records/activity logs there are from that afternoon.  And his apologists just casually dismiss it like a missed "scam likely" on their smart phone.  The most sophisticated communications system on Earth is the White House switchboard.  I've seen mid-level staffers pickup their hard line and just say, " "I need the Ambassador from Romania please."  And 5 seconds, later a secure connection pings back with their Ambassador on the line.  But nobody knows who the fuck called who on the afternoon of January 6th.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that the 7-11 on NW 17th where all the interns go to buy beer after work.  There's security cam footage of 2 WH guys walking in, not smart enough to take off their security lanyards which says where they work, and buying a dozen burner phones each and paying with large bills taken directly from a banker envelope  (which had been handed to them just minutes before).    

[GhostOfTomJoad 9,382]

"Hello?"
"Secret Service will be moving Veep (or whatever their code word was for Pence) to the shelter via motorcade route A. Be ready to engage."

That's less than 5 seconds. And had Pence not known he was likely a dead man had he gotten into the SS transport our entire Government would have fallen. As it is, we're hanging on by a fingernail.

[Horndog 2,252]

10 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Dotard can't express a thought in nine seconds.  I'm not even sure he can formulate a thought in nine seconds.

He was having phone sex. 9 seconds is fine. 

[wildcat09 29,447]

12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Are we after a criminal conviction or not?

Or do we just want to be able to spew sound and fury, signifying nothing, into the ether?

This isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced, so what's the point of getting worked up over a salacious but ultimately inconclusive factoid.

Just about everything revealed these days I'm looking at as useful in a criminal case or not useful in a criminal case.

I think everyone needs to be a lot less certain about what sorts of information might change people's minds.

[Macanudo 13,026]

27 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I think everyone needs to be a lot less certain about what sorts of information might change people's minds.

Really?   Remember, Trump really COULD shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his followers wouldn't give a shit.

[NAVY 6,765]

I wish Dotard would get confused and shoot his followers on 5th and someone wouldn’t give a shit. 

[wildcat09 29,447]

9 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Really?   Remember, Trump really COULD shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his followers wouldn't give a shit.

I didn't say "what sorts of information would convince Trump's followers." I just said "people." Most Americans aren't die hard Trump supporters. Most Americans don't really follow politics or the news that much at all.

[Biff Tannen 45,760]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

I didn't say "what sorts of information would convince Trump's followers." I just said "people." Most Americans aren't die hard Trump supporters. Most Americans don't really follow politics or the news that much at all.

This still blows my fucking mind.  Granted, it's not as true as it used to be, what with social media and the highest turnout of all time in 2020.  But overall, probably still correct.

I didn't pay much attention until around Obama and even then it was more in passing, but then 2016 happened.  Granted I was in my 20s in the 2000s, so my brain was mostly filled with malted hops and bong resin.

People in their 30s and 40s+ that pay no attention in this day and age, I just can't.

[henrygandorf 29,198]

7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

People in their 30s and 40s+ that pay no attention in this day and age, I just can't.

"oh, i don't pay attention to politics" = "the side i typically vote for does and says terrible and indefensible things, so i will disengage or pretend to, while still voting for the same thugs, morons, and circus clowns"

[Pig Bellmont 8,745]

 

[elfenix 34,366]

17 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I don't think a nine-second call is going to amount to much, no matter who it was from.

[Fastbreak 3,996]

 

Damn. The hearings were in Florida? I thought they were in Washington.

[Biff Tannen 45,760]

33 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

This is probably better from a news cycle standpoint, which is fucked up to say, but true.

[Willfully Horn 8,068]

If this has been posted, I missed it. Clips from the documentary film makers Roger Stone had following him around (I presume

 

 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Willfully Horn

[Fudge Nuggets 19,242]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

Are the hearings taking place in Tampa?  Man, I wish I could take the day off tomorrow. 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Fudge Nuggets

[C-Man 27,293]

26 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

If this has been posted, I missed it. Clips from the documentary film makers Roger Stone had following him around (I presume

 

 

Stone: "Our next election is going to be decided in the courts because they cheat and we don't cheat. We've never cheated."

[TwiceHorn 31,653]

3 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I think everyone needs to be a lot less certain about what sorts of information might change people's minds.

That's fair.  I typically vacillate between incredibly cynical and quite Pollyannish, so I go both ways on this.  Most of the time I'm on the receiving end of "that ain't changing anyone's mind that isn't already changed," so I was in cynical model.

[wildcat09 29,447]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fair.  I typically vacillate between incredibly cynical and quite Pollyannish, so I go both ways on this.  Most of the time I'm on the receiving end of "that ain't changing anyone's mind that isn't already changed," so I was in cynical model.

People are weird and form and change opinions about things and other people for good, bad, stupid, weird and silly reasons. Trump's die hard fans won't ever change their minds.  But there's a whole lot of people that aren't Trump supporters, but still seriously think he was a real, legitimate businessman who maybe struggled with learning the protocols of the job but wasn't actively corrupt and malevolent. And they're not all blithering idiots (though some are), they just don't have a very sophisticated understanding of epistemics and haven't been lucky enough to learn the best sources of information.

In understanding the world, we all rely to an enormous extent on trusting others. And much of the mainstream media (the most trustworthy sources for people who aren't diehard Republicans) normalized Trump in many ways. But an overwhelming majority of those people probably would've trusted Bob fucking Woodward if he'd released a tape of Trump admitting he was lying about the severity of a pandemic, because Bob fucking Woodward is someone whom nearly anyone who knows the name (who isn't a die hard Watergate apologist) thinks they can trust. 

[chainsaw 9,910]

This should be bumped right?

21 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Are the hearings taking place in Tampa?  Man, I wish I could take the day off tomorrow. 

This is actually pretty smart because it needs to be the top story, and the closer to midterms, the better.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

Fuck her.

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

On 9/27/2022 at 4:15 PM, Willfully Horn said:

If this has been posted, I missed it. Clips from the documentary film makers Roger Stone had following him around (I presume

 

 

“That’s basically what Bush did to Gore.”

It’s almost like he admitted Bush stole the 2000 election. Maybe VP Gore should’ve refused to certify.

Also, fuck that guy for having photos of Nixon on his wall.

[TwiceHorn 31,653]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

“That’s basically what Bush did to Gore.”

It’s almost like he admitted Bush stole the 2000 election. Maybe VP Gore should’ve refused to certify.

Also, fuck that guy for having photos of Nixon on his wall.

But as far as a conspiracy to steal an election by cooking up a false set of electors and a scheme to influence and then disrupt the electoral count, it is not even close. 

[jimmyjazz 46,372]

Gore also conceded once SCOTUS ruled in W's favor.  He knew when it was over.  Trump, not so much.

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

But as far as a conspiracy to steal an election by cooking up a false set of electors and a scheme to influence and then disrupt the electoral count, it is not even close. 

Just another of the thousand ways Bush foreshadowed Trump. Trump just turns everything up to 11. Bush wasn’t president but he had help in Florida where the Governor just happened to be his brother and the Sec. of State stopped the recount (and got a position in the White House as a reward). The plan with Trump was to just say “I’m President, I’m not leaving, fuck you.”

That failed. But now they’re pressing the Sec. of State angle in swing states and trying to get election deniers installed to help them steal the election next time around. And it’s all happening right out in the open.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,908]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Gore also conceded once SCOTUS ruled in W's favor.  He knew when it was over.  Trump, not so much.

you're comparing apples to shit

[Willfully Horn 8,068]

4 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Just another of the thousand ways Bush foreshadowed Trump. Trump just turns everything up to 11. Bush wasn’t president but he had help in Florida where the Governor just happened to be his brother and the Sec. of State stopped the recount (and got a position in the White House as a reward). The plan with Trump was to just say “I’m President, I’m not leaving, fuck you.”

That failed. But now they’re pressing the Sec. of State angle in swing states and trying to get election deniers installed to help them steal the election next time around. And it’s all happening right out in the open.

I agree with your post. Still, I want to believe that the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act is as advertised. Yes, I am often naive.
 

Further, if the Texas Tribune is correct, and the bill has broad bipartisan support in the Senate,, I will enjoy the big pot of crow gumbo that I will be cooking.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/27/ted-cruz-insurrection/

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

I agree with your post. Still, I want to believe that the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act is as advertised. Yes, I am often naive.
 

Further, if the Texas Tribune is correct, and the bill has broad bipartisan support in the Senate,, I will enjoy the big pot of crow gumbo that I will be cooking.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/27/ted-cruz-insurrection/

Yeah, I’m hoping for the best but prepared for the worst. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,242]

34 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Also, fuck that guy for having photos of Nixon on his wall.

Who’s going to tell him?

[Bama Chick 28,596]

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

38 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Who’s going to tell him?

The tattoo was a choice he has to live with. The photos on the wall are a choice he makes every day. And it’s not a coincidence that he’s posing in front of them for that interview. Corruption is his brand and he’s not afraid to advertise it. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,908]

real life zippy the pinhead is fucking creepy

[hpslugga 4,068]

On 9/26/2022 at 10:50 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

If there was a call from Cheney to a hijacker’s phone on 9/11, they don’t get to wave it away by claiming wrong number. 

“That last number is a 4, but the writing makes it look like a 9!!!”

[jimmyjazz 46,372]

Stone worked on Nixon's re-election campaign.

I'm not saying that excuses the creepy-as-fuck tattoo, but still.

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25 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

“That last number is a 4, but the writing makes it look like a 9!!!”

Was that from "Godfather of Harlem"?  

[Guest]

Back on today at noon central. 

[TexPx 2,326]

So because of the hurricane instead of prime time we get noon on a Thursday and no network coverage? All I see on my guide is cspan and a couple of the “fake news” channels.

[Captainant 27,889]

1 minute ago, TexPx said:

So because of the hurricane instead of prime time we get noon on a Thursday and no network coverage? All I see on my guide is cspan and a couple of the “fake news” channels.

[DDD Dad 14,365]

Game day, bitches.

C-Span feed just came on.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?523473-1/ninth-hearing-capitol-attack&live

Edited October 13, 2022 by DDD Dad

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

Roger Stone has hair plugs, right?

[yoladu 4,114]

On 9/29/2022 at 11:00 AM, WhatTheBuck said:

“That’s basically what Bush did to Gore.”

It’s almost like he admitted Bush stole the 2000 election. Maybe VP Gore should’ve refused to certify.

Also, fuck that guy for having photos of Nixon on his wall.

his WALL? he has one tattooed on his back!

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,536]

Trump supporters won’t watch or acknowledge it, but the timelines being established show how trump lied at every step along the way.

[WhatTheBuck 28,824]

4 minutes ago, yoladu said:

his WALL? he has one tattooed on his back!

 

Yes, I’m fully aware of the Nixon tattoo on Stone’s back and have been for years.

Today we got a shot of him sitting there surrounded by six different Nixon posters, with his hands outstretched in Nixon’s double peace sign or “V” for victory (I assume it’s the latter) and none of those Nixon posters were ones that we saw on his wall in that interview.

He doesn’t have to look at his stupid tattoo all of the time. (Although he probably does. I’ll bet he has a hand held mirror so he can admire it reflected in his bathroom mirror.) But how many photos and posters of Nixon does he own? It’s this ‘Hooray for corruption and lawlessness!’ attitude that he embraces, promotes, and gets away with, that just boggles my mind.