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1 hour ago, texifornia said:

Good God

 

Ian Boyd has got to be stopped. At this point, he's coming dangerous close to fucking with the time/space continuum. Otherwise, how on earth does he have time to moonlight on Ohio State boards after he spends most of his waking hours typing heaps of word soup onto Inside Texas?

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Ian Boyd has got to be stopped. At this point, he's coming dangerous close to fucking with the time/space continuum. Otherwise, how on earth does he have time to moonlight on Ohio State boards after he spends most of his waking hours typing heaps of word soup onto Inside Texas?

I'm not reading that shit. I tried. But how can someone credibly claim the NFL has an anti-buckeye QB bias when I can't imagine there are many, if any, schools that have a higher ratio of busts to first round QBs drafted. I mean, they're worse off than fucking Jimbo Fisher, and that is fucking saying something. 

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In defense, this is clearly disgruntled fan screed. Real life is actually pretty straightforward here. 

Since Tressel was hired in '01, fOSU's starting QBs have been:

  • Craig Krenzel - Sad noodle arm, had 3 NFL starts anyway.
  • Justin Zwick - 5* bust with plenty of chances, replaced by...
  • Troy Smith - Slow RB with a great arm who lost a payday when he won the Heisman, got fat, and was blown out by UF in the NC. Drafted in the 5th, had opportunity with 3 teams. 
  • Todd Boeckman - An actual greay shirt who was fine between Smith and...
  • Terrell Pryor - A very good WR who carved out a decent NFL career, eventually. As a WR.
  • Joe Bauserman - A walk-on that Fickell trusted more than his successor...
  • Braxton Miller - Didn't even try to get drafted as a QB. Did combine drills with WRs.
  • J.T. Barrett - Another noodle with injury issues. Barrett was a great college QB, and that was his ceiling. (touches earpiece) And he still got a shot in the NFL that went as predicted.
  • Cardale Jones - A project with a massive arm that never panned out. Post-season heroics earned him 3 shots in the NFL ending in being cut. Recently" refused to report" to camp as the starter for the Massachusetts Pirates of the IFL
  • Dwayne Haskins - Was an NFL starter and was horrible. Took a backup contract in Pittsburgh. Then, died. 
  • Justin Fields - NFL Starter
  • CJ Stroud - #2 overall draft pick

The data makes the opposite case - fOSU QBs are given more NFL opportunity than they deserve on merit. That Krenzel, Barrett, and Jones had any opportunity as a QB is evidence enough, but you could make the case that Miller and Smith were fringe NFL players as well, based on CFB production and tangible athleticism. 

 

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On 5/2/2023 at 1:24 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

In defense, this is clearly disgruntled fan screed. Real life is actually pretty straightforward here. 

Since Tressel was hired in '01, fOSU's starting QBs have been:

  • Craig Krenzel - Sad noodle arm, had 3 NFL starts anyway.
  • Justin Zwick - 5* bust with plenty of chances, replaced by...
  • Troy Smith - Slow RB with a great arm who lost a payday when he won the Heisman, got fat, and was blown out by UF in the NC. Drafted in the 5th, had opportunity with 3 teams. 
  • Todd Boeckman - An actual greay shirt who was fine between Smith and...
  • Terrell Pryor - A very good WR who carved out a decent NFL career, eventually. As a WR.
  • Joe Bauserman - A walk-on that Fickell trusted more than his successor...
  • Braxton Miller - Didn't even try to get drafted as a QB. Did combine drills with WRs.
  • J.T. Barrett - Another noodle with injury issues. Barrett was a great college QB, and that was his ceiling. (touches earpiece) And he still got a shot in the NFL that went as predicted.
  • Cardale Jones - A project with a massive arm that never panned out. Post-season heroics earned him 3 shots in the NFL ending in being cut. Recently" refused to report" to camp as the starter for the Massachusetts Pirates of the IFL
  • Dwayne Haskins - Was an NFL starter and was horrible. Took a backup contract in Pittsburgh. Then, died. 
  • Justin Fields - NFL Starter
  • CJ Stroud - #2 overall draft pick

The data makes the opposite case - fOSU QBs are given more NFL opportunity than they deserve on merit. That Krenzel, Barrett, and Jones had any opportunity as a QB is evidence enough, but you could make the case that Miller and Smith were fringe NFL players as well, based on CFB production and tangible athleticism. 

 

Maybe some of them went there to play school?

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On 5/2/2023 at 1:24 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Braxton Miller - Didn't even try to get drafted as a QB.

Tore his shoulder up against Clemson then reinjured it in fall camp the following year.  We never knew for sure that he couldn't throw anymore but he couldn't throw anymore.  It wasn't a case of didn't try but couldn't.  He still is the owner of the greatest 360 spin move in college football history so he has that.

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On 6/17/2023 at 11:35 AM, TommyGufano said:

 

A.) I'll split the difference on recruiting class classification

B.) Wat?

The kid turned 17 in December/January so age wise he’s supposed to be a 2024 kid, so technically right thread and also how he jumped 2 classes. 

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On 6/26/2023 at 10:47 AM, CashMcCoy said:

Rhule is real excited about not losing a top 100 recruit from the middle of nowhere Nebraska (Carter Nelson). Makes Tim Brewster’s tweets look mature.

On that subject Rhule's focus on getting more players from Texas appears to be working.  He filled his coaching and administrative staff with a lot of people with Texas connections.  The 2024 recruiting class has 7 players from Texas currently committed.  Mostly of the 3 star variety but the numbers appear to be a big increase over the past 7 years.  

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I actually think Rhule can succeed there. Much has worked against Nebraska over the last 25 years, but they have a monster of a traditional fanbase who will be absolutely rabid at the first strains of success. If he can bring in key players and get buy in, they’ll do well. 

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I actually think Rhule can succeed there. Much has worked against Nebraska over the last 25 years, but they have a monster of a traditional fanbase who will be absolutely rabid at the first strains of success. If he can bring in key players and get buy in, they’ll do well. 

They'll need Warren Buffett to become a huge Huskers fan if they hope to compete in the new landscape. 

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2 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

At the highest level of success, sure. But most schools are going to be excluded from that group. 

Rhule will probably have a better win % than the roster makeup deserves, but is that how you're defining success? He won't win the conference. Maybe his division, but Fickell will recruit better. 

It's all pretty irrelevant. He's just going to D.E.N.N.I.S. them anyway

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Demonstrate Value - Rhule says all the right things, takes some potshots at other P5s, shows a recruiting pulse, and wins 7 games. He then proceeds to

Engage Physically - by teasing out future success to a fanbase starved of this kind of erotic fiction. Naturally, this allows Rhule to

Nurture Dependence - Another season, this time 8 wins and a late chance at division champs. "Next year....."

Neglect Emotionally - This offseason brings some interesting suitors that are clearly better jobs than Nebraska, but Rhule is radio silent until he

Inspires Hope - "I am the coach at Nebraska. My family and I are happy here, and I can't imagine ever coaching anywhere else"

Separate Entirely.

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2 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Rhule will probably have a better win % than the roster makeup deserves, but is that how you're defining success? He won't win the conference. Maybe his division, but Fickell will recruit better.

Most teams don't win the conference. See: Texas A&M.

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5 hours ago, Hornlover said:

They'll need Warren Buffett to become a huge Huskers fan if they hope to compete in the new landscape. 

One of NUs biggest disadvantages, perhaps it's biggest, is poor recruiting grounds in-state and neighboring states.  NU will likely benefit in the NIL pay to play days.  As mentioned, the fanbase is still immense and continues to dump money into the program.  NU might be able to pay to get recruits they wouldn't have previously.  Supposedly the school embraced and organized NIL efforts early.

Will that help Rhule beat tOSU, Michigan, and USC regularly, highly unlikely.  That said, I think the fans would be happy for quite awhile if NU was competing well on that next tier with PSU and Wisconsin.   

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22 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

……and would we consider that success? 

We would not. Nebraska likely would after they fell off a cliff.


We haven’t won shit other than beating Georgia, but our recruiting has been pretty good. There’s light at the end of our tunnel. A train?

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Still a bad look, but that reporter made some bad leaps

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Chapman’s statement identified the corrections and explained changes made to the article. The AJC’s editors said they could not substantiate one of the article’s key assertions about Head Coach Kirby Smart’s tenure: that 11 players remained with the team after women reported violent encounters. The “precise count of 11 players” could not be substantiated under the AJC’s standards, the statement said.

As a result of the corrections, the AJC removed or adjusted several paragraphs of the story that depended on that count, and edited the headline.

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In a second error, the article improperly joined two statements a detective made minutes apart into a single quotation, the statement said. Connecting the sentences did not change the meaning of the quote, but the way it was presented to readers failed to meet AJC standards, according to the statement.

 

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10 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

If anyone is ever in Japan, I highly recommend taking in one day towards the end of a professional Makuuchi Sumo tournament (2 weeks long). It is quite the spectacle.

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In all seriousness, I’ve seen some tournament coverage on NHK. I bet it is quite an experience in person.

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

What is happening at Auburn right now? Pulling five stars out from under Georgia and Alabama seems….odd….for an Auburn team that hasn’t done much of late.

Yes, what could it possibly be? Such a huge mystery when two 5-stars suddenly flip from blueblood programs to .... Auburn.

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Yes, it is truly shocking.

Hugh Freeze.

Scandals and resignation[edit]

In January 2016, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous recruiting violations. An investigation turned up evidence that Ole Miss employees and boosters arranged numerous "impermissible benefits" for players, such as car loans and cash. At least one recruit was suspected of getting help on his college entrance exam.[29] Ole Miss officials began calling reporters, telling them falsely that most of the alleged violations had taken place under Freeze's predecessor Houston Nutt.[30]

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As part of discovery for the lawsuit, Nutt's attorneys filed a freedom-of-information request for calls Freeze made on his university-issued cell phone during January 2016. While reviewing those records, Nutt's attorneys discovered a call to a number associated with a female escort service, and alerted Ole Miss officials about it. Freeze claimed it was a misdialed number.[38] School officials investigated, and discovered what they later described as "a concerning pattern" of similar calls dating back to shortly after he arrived in Oxford:[39] at least a dozen calls over 33 months,[7][8] often made while Freeze was traveling on business trips using Ole Miss' private plane.[26] On July 20, 2017, chancellor Jeff Vitter and athletic director Ross Bjork gave Freeze an ultimatum: resign or be fired for violating the morals clause of his contract. Freeze opted to resign; offensive coordinator Matt Luke was named interim coach.[8]

 

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38 minutes ago, Sejjr said:

Yes, it is truly shocking.

Hugh Freeze.

Scandals and resignation[edit]

In January 2016, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous recruiting violations. An investigation turned up evidence that Ole Miss employees and boosters arranged numerous "impermissible benefits" for players, such as car loans and cash. At least one recruit was suspected of getting help on his college entrance exam.[29] Ole Miss officials began calling reporters, telling them falsely that most of the alleged violations had taken place under Freeze's predecessor Houston Nutt.[30]

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As part of discovery for the lawsuit, Nutt's attorneys filed a freedom-of-information request for calls Freeze made on his university-issued cell phone during January 2016. While reviewing those records, Nutt's attorneys discovered a call to a number associated with a female escort service, and alerted Ole Miss officials about it. Freeze claimed it was a misdialed number.[38] School officials investigated, and discovered what they later described as "a concerning pattern" of similar calls dating back to shortly after he arrived in Oxford:[39] at least a dozen calls over 33 months,[7][8] often made while Freeze was traveling on business trips using Ole Miss' private plane.[26] On July 20, 2017, chancellor Jeff Vitter and athletic director Ross Bjork gave Freeze an ultimatum: resign or be fired for violating the morals clause of his contract. Freeze opted to resign; offensive coordinator Matt Luke was named interim coach.[8]

 

Trying to frame Nutt for his own misdeeds makes Freeze the perfect football coach for the school that employs Bruce Pearl as their basketball coach and moral compass.

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This might actually be the most intellectually dishonest answer to “why’d you flip?” ever:

“I’d say probably a month ago, I looked at Nick Saban and Hugh Freeze — Nick Saban is a good coach, all the stuff he’s had through college football. I know he specializes with (defensive backs), and my main position is receiver,” Thompson said. “And Hugh Freeze has got a background of developing receivers at a higher level. Just that, how you get receivers to their highest point.”

Freeze coached tight ends for a year at Ole Miss. The exact same maneuver Charlie used to get Jeff Traylor on staff. In his time as HC at Ole Miss, he produced three draft picks at WR (one first rounder, Treadwell). He produced two at Liberty. His former WR coach at Ole Miss during that time is now at UCF after producing zero NFL picks in five years at Indiana. His current WR coach, who replaced Marion at the dumpster fire that was Hawaii, hasn’t produced a draft pick in his brief three year career.

Saban? He has produced eleven draft picks at the WR position, including EIGHT first round picks. For all the criticism he received on this site earlier this year, Holmon Wiggins has coached six draft picks, including five top-15 selections, and one of those won the Heisman Trophy. Saban may focus on DBs, but even his tangential record on WR development is light years ahead of anything Freeze has done. Those eleven WRs have earned $332 million to this point in their careers. Freeze’s guys have earned $37 million. That’s just the WRs Saban has produced at Bama. If you want to add his previous two stops, that’s six more draft picks and somewhere around $75 million more in career earnings.

I honestly don’t see the immediate downside for Auburn if he just said, “they offered me more money.” But, even if he wanted to give a more tepid response, why not cite the new OC and his proclivity for running the football, or the depth chart/playing time? You really want to reference the most prolific developer of NFL talent in college football history as why you chose NOT to go to Alabama? Did Freeze really convince this dumbfuck that he was responsible for Metcalf and Brown? If so, add three more first rounders and $90 million to Saban’s tab (not including the late Charles Rogers). 

I have no idea why I just went down a rabbit hole and dedicated this many words to a post about the Alabama/Auburn rivalry, but that kid’s comment struck me as one of the dumbest bullshit responses I’ve ever read (on par with Jimbo’s “they chose a&m for the world-class education” and “everybody says ‘why go to a program that’s winning all the time?’”). Freeze is an outstanding recruiter, but Thompson is galactically stupid if he actually believes what he said. One final random tidbit I came across—this kid’s hometown of Foley, AL (ironically, the same hometown as Julio Jones) is literally like the Cotton Bowl of the gump state rivalry. It is equidistant (231 mi) between the two schools. Geographically, it might help to think of it more as the asshole of the corpulent body that is Alabama..equidistant from the two sweaty armpits.

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