Active shooter thread

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

14 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

These manifestos are the tools of trolls.  They are specifically written to blend left and right wing talking points to generate the kind of divisive exchanges occurring on this board and in other places.

This is a cogent, well articulated, and thoughtful point that is not supported by any fact.  Denied.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Cowards.

Keep calling em out.

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[Js1 85447]

Just now, Bama Chick said:

Cowards.
 

 

Keep calling em out.

 

I'd wager the NRA having staffing and money troubles means they hadn't gotten the talking points yet.  

[jimmyjazz 45997]

I know where the NRA can get some more money.

[Anastasis 23479]

 

10 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

This is a cogent, well articulated, and thoughtful point that is not supported by any fact.  Denied.

https://www.wired.com/story/wrong-way-talk-about-shooter-manifesto/

“Those manifestos are specifically designed to be objects of media manipulation,” says Whitney Phillips, who researches troll culture and online extremism at Syracuse University. “They’re written and publicized in a way to generate the maximum amount of journalistic coverage.”

...

That’s especially important given that these missives are largely performative, written with the understanding that the media and law enforcement will find them, pore over them, and share their contents either in summary or in full. They’re designed to exploit the hunger of the press and the public to find meaning, and engineered to give their authors maximum virality. There’s inherent danger in covering them at all, and even more so at face value.

“It’s not a good-faith document. It isn’t information that is sincerely offered. It is manipulation that is deliberately forwarded in the hopes that journalists will report it verbatim, will dissect it for days and weeks and months and years,” says Phillips. “There’s an awareness of the audience, and that should make us very, very suspicious of anything that’s in those documents.”

Edited August 5, 2019 by Anastasis

[Mojo Hand 4580]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/wrong-way-talk-about-shooter-manifesto/

“Those manifestos are specifically designed to be objects of media manipulation,” says Whitney Phillips, who researches troll culture and online extremism at Syracuse University. “They’re written and publicized in a way to generate the maximum amount of journalistic coverage.”

...

That’s especially important given that these missives are largely performative, written with the understanding that the media and law enforcement will find them, pore over them, and share their contents either in summary or in full. They’re designed to exploit the hunger of the press and the public to find meaning, and engineered to give their authors maximum virality. There’s inherent danger in covering them at all, and even more so at face value.

“It’s not a good-faith document. It isn’t information that is sincerely offered. It is manipulation that is deliberately forwarded in the hopes that journalists will report it verbatim, will dissect it for days and weeks and months and years,” says Phillips. “There’s an awareness of the audience, and that should make us very, very suspicious of anything that’s in those documents.”

Yeah, the suspicious part was the El Paso killer claiming that it's not Trump's fault and the fake news would lie.  It's not hard to decipher what's accurate and what's manipulation. 

[BradInATX 9208]

Yeah, the suspicious part was the El Paso killer claiming that it's not Trump's fault and the fake news would lie.  It's not hard to decipher what's accurate and what's manipulation. 

Or that pesky picture of "Trump" spelled out in guns. Such ambiguity. Very both sides.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Mojo Hand said:

Yeah, the suspicious part was the El Paso killer claiming that it's not Trump's fault and the fake news would lie.  It's not hard to decipher what's accurate and what's manipulation. 

The dozens of dead Hispanics are also a good indicator of the intentions of the manifesto’s author. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Yeah, the suspicious part was the El Paso killer claiming that it's not Trump's fault and the fake news would lie.  It's not hard to decipher what's accurate and what's manipulation. 

Or that pesky picture of "Trump" spelled out in guns. Such ambiguity. Very both sides.

Point of clarification. I believe the shooter didn't make that picture, but shared that picture in social media. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

https://www.wired.com/story/wrong-way-talk-about-shooter-manifesto/

“Those manifestos are specifically designed to be objects of media manipulation,” says Whitney Phillips, who researches troll culture and online extremism at Syracuse University. “They’re written and publicized in a way to generate the maximum amount of journalistic coverage.”

...

That’s especially important given that these missives are largely performative, written with the understanding that the media and law enforcement will find them, pore over them, and share their contents either in summary or in full. They’re designed to exploit the hunger of the press and the public to find meaning, and engineered to give their authors maximum virality. There’s inherent danger in covering them at all, and even more so at face value.

“It’s not a good-faith document. It isn’t information that is sincerely offered. It is manipulation that is deliberately forwarded in the hopes that journalists will report it verbatim, will dissect it for days and weeks and months and years,” says Phillips. “There’s an awareness of the audience, and that should make us very, very suspicious of anything that’s in those documents.”

they are written to be pored over. they are written to be amplified.  they are performative.  they are not written with any skill in blending the left and right messages and can be understood by anyone honestly approaching them.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Point of clarification. I believe the shooter didn't make that picture, but shared that picture in social media. 

How does that affect anything?  The post you quote doesn't claim he created it.   

[Brisketexan 105164]

31 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

These manifestos are the tools of trolls.  They are specifically written to blend left and right wing talking points to generate the kind of divisive exchanges occurring on this board and in other places.

You know what's fucking REAL?

Bullets.  The ones that ripped through 46 people who committed the sin of being brown in this country.  

There.  There's your fucking reality.  There's an open fucking hunting season on brown people in this country.  There's your fucking fact.  You figure out where the fuck that comes from -- gosh, it's such a MYSTERY.

Quit your fucking equivocating.  We have 1) state sponsored dehumanization and gleeful human rights violations of brown people, 2) state-encouraged white nationalist genocidal terrorism against brown people.  We know what the fucking problem is.  We know where it comes from.  And we know that it can be delivered at 3,000 fps.  This is EXACTLY what the start of an extermination campaign looks like.  Pick up a fucking book -- any fucking book -- chronicling the 1930s in Europe.

You and your fucking pipe-smoking pseudo-erudite bullshit pontificating about a fucking manifesto, as if you're fucking above it all.  Tumbling lead at 3,000 fps, aimed at brown people because they are brown, is more than enough factual basis.  So fuck right off.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

Just now, Mojo Hand said:

How does that affect anything?  The post you quote doesn't claim he created it.   

Doesn't change much other than being exact in what has happened. That is it. Leave no chink in your armor. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

For heavy 2nd amendment supporters, I would be cautious about Trump at this moment. Trump is not an ideologue. His compass has one setting, what is good for Trump. If he thinks gun controls laws are the best for his chances in 2020, the 2nd Amendment is going to be swept under the rug. 

I'm not saying he would back outlawing all guns but that's not what the public is asking for anyway. Plus given that the NRA is embroiled with internal and external problems, they may not have the strong political muscle at this point. And Trump isn't worried about his gun-loving base. He can tell them to drink sand, and they will ask for more.

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Doesn't change much other than being exact in what has happened. That is it. Leave no chink in your armor. 

fwiw, i appreciated it.  i like to know the background on things like that.

[Hank Kingsley 20991]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

And Trump isn't worried about his gun-loving base. He can tell them to drink sand, and they will ask for more.

Yeah, I don't think this is true.

Owning the libs is all that matters to Trumpkins. If Dotard capitulates on guns they will abandon him. 

 

[bad_teammate 13219]

Still waiting for the leftism in the manifestos and target selection.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Yeah, I don't think this is true.

Owning the libs is all that matters to Trumpkins. If Dotard capitulates on guns they will abandon him. 

 

Trump won't capitulate on anything. It will be his idea that he will tell the crowd to accept which they. Many of them are too far in to turn away.

[Dirk X West 772]

I think it's more likely he'll make some promises today or tomorrow, be congratulated by his followers for being a great leader and compromising (along with some whining about how libs will never be happy with anything he does - "he could cure cancer and they wouldn't give him credit!"), and then gradually back away from this and nothing will actually happen.  As I recall, this is how his last foray into gun control/regulation went.

[Js1 85447]

16 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

For heavy 2nd amendment supporters, I would be cautious about Trump at this moment. Trump is not an ideologue. His compass has one setting, what is good for Trump. If he thinks gun controls laws are the best for his chances in 2020, the 2nd Amendment is going to be swept under the rug. 

I'm not saying he would back outlawing all guns but that's not what the public is asking for anyway. Plus given that the NRA is embroiled with internal and external problems, they may not have the strong political muscle at this point. And Trump isn't worried about his gun-loving base. He can tell them to drink sand, and they will ask for more.

This will turn out exactly like Chuck and Nance's deal for the wall in exchange for DACA.

He will be for it

He will make the deal

Rush, Fox & Friends, Breitbart, Drudge, Hannity, etc. will go scorched earth

He will renege, blame the Democrats for not giving him more, and nothing will end up happening.

[hpslugga 4062]

13 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Still waiting for the leftism in the manifestos and target selection.

Wait forever, you will.

[Rougarou 594]

Anecdotal, but I went to buy a gun today at a big box retailer and the guy selling them said all the background checks today have been delayed. Sure enough mine was too-- he said that the conspiracy is the FBI is delaying everything today after this weekend. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

Or there is a massive surge in buying up guns before some regulation comes

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

Anecdotal, but I went to buy a gun today at a big box retailer and the guy selling them said all the background checks today have been delayed. Sure enough mine was too-- he said that the conspiracy is the FBI is delaying everything today after this weekend. 

people are buying more guns. we are sick as a nation. 

[Rougarou 594]

5 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Or there is a massive surge in buying up guns before some regulation comes

I've been on the fence about buying guns but the Wal-mart shooting has made me want to buy a gun and take classes and get trained and then get a CHL. I don't ever want to be a sitting duck like that as long as I have people I'm responsible for. This story has really affected me and it's just so sad and infruriating. I think it's for everyone to personally decide until the laws (hopefully) change.

And i know, you are statistically more likely to die of a heart attack or something, but the odds of dying in a blaze of manifesto bullets seems to be cracking the top 10 in America.

Edited August 5, 2019 by Rougarou

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

2 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

I've been on the fence about buying guns but the Wal-mart shooting has made me want to buy a gun and take classes and get trained and then get a CHL. I don't ever want to be a sitting duck like that as long as I have people I'm responsible for. This story has really affected me and it's just so sad and infruriating. I think it's for everyone to personally decide until the laws (hopefully) change.

And i know, you are statistically more likely to die of a heart attack or something, but the odds of dying in a blaze of manifesto bullets seems to be cracking the top 10 in America.

skip the training and just watch Rambo over and over.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The tragedy IMO is how much the guns are overshadowing the racism.  The guns are a big deal but the racism that has now been given safe harbor is the MUCH bigger threat to the country.  

Edited August 5, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Js1 85447]

Were any of these mass shootings ended by a CHL holder in the line of fire? Southerland Springs was from a guy across the street, he was not in the church. 

[Anastasis 23479]

16 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Still waiting for the leftism in the manifestos and target selection.

In particular to the El Paso one, he weaves universal basic income, universal healthcare, corporate capture of the political apparatus, and environment talking points into his overarching anti-immigrant narrative. In one particularly incoherent section, he frames his anti-immigrant views in terms of the impact that immigrant "dependents" have making it more difficult for UBI and universal healthcare policy to succeed. 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Were any of these mass shootings ended by a CHL holder in the line of fire? Southerland Springs was from a guy across the street, he was not in the church. 

^ Not many. That's one of the big talking point tho.

Edited August 5, 2019 by retread

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

38 minutes ago, Axiom of Choice said:

 Maybe we should poll serial rapists, and if we find some vague trend on their political leanings, then the other side can declare victory.         

Just follow the president's twitter feed.

[hpslugga 4062]

2 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

I've been on the fence about buying guns but the Wal-mart shooting has made me want to buy a gun and take classes and get trained and then get a CHL. I don't ever want to be a sitting duck like that as long as I have people I'm responsible for. This story has really affected me and it's just so sad and infruriating. I think it's for everyone to personally decide until the laws (hopefully) change.

And i know, you are statistically more likely to die of a heart attack or something, but the odds of dying in a blaze of manifesto bullets seems to be cracking the top 10 in America.

However unlikely it is, it's that much less likely that the "good guy with a gun" scenario actually plays itself out to the point where lives are saved. Any manifestation of "more guns" is dishonest because it asserts as fact something that is evidently not true. 

Oh and one more thing, we're at a point now where there is no doubt that when the default response from the right wing on these shootings is "thoughts and prayers," they are just trying to be offensive.

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You know what's fucking REAL?

Bullets.  The ones that ripped through 46 people who committed the sin of being brown in this country.  

There.  There's your fucking reality.  There's an open fucking hunting season on brown people in this country.  There's your fucking fact.  You figure out where the fuck that comes from -- gosh, it's such a MYSTERY.

Quit your fucking equivocating.  We have 1) state sponsored dehumanization and gleeful human rights violations of brown people, 2) state-encouraged white nationalist genocidal terrorism against brown people.  We know what the fucking problem is.  We know where it comes from.  And we know that it can be delivered at 3,000 fps.  This is EXACTLY what the start of an extermination campaign looks like.  Pick up a fucking book -- any fucking book -- chronicling the 1930s in Europe.

You and your fucking pipe-smoking pseudo-erudite bullshit pontificating about a fucking manifesto, as if you're fucking above it all.  Tumbling lead at 3,000 fps, aimed at brown people because they are brown, is more than enough factual basis.  So fuck right off.

But if you react to mass murders, the trolls win.

[jimmyjazz 45997]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

In particular to the El Paso one, he weaves universal basic income, universal healthcare, corporate capture of the political apparatus, and environment talking points into his overarching anti-immigrant narrative. In one particularly incoherent section, he frames his anti-immigrant views in terms of the impact that immigrant "dependents" have making it more difficult for UBI and universal healthcare policy to succeed. 

I don't care if he quoted Karl Marx.  The guy drove 650 miles to kill brown people.  It doesn't have to be a clean sheet to understand that racism is at the core of this shooting and that Trump incites this type of behavior with his rhetoric.

[RomaVicta 29945]

Do we know anything about the Dayton shooter? As far as I know, there is no manifesto with him. I guess I'm asking if he's a garden variety mass murderer or politically motivated mass murderer.

Beto gave the country a needed head slap. It's crazy how talking about real issues related to politically motivated mass murder is so contorted.

Driving in today, I got to hear the sad, consoling voices of Morning Edition ministering to a fragile, weeping America. I wanted to vomit. I don't want my hand patted. I don't need a radio monkey mediating the world for me. Stay detached and tell me what's going on.

I even hate the language of "honoring victims." It's right that we remember them. Being a victim, contrary to much of our dogma, is not actually an honor. The honor comes in rooting out the victimizers and predators. 

The connection I have to the victims is that we're all Americans and any American could have been in that mall. I'm angry more than grief-stricken over an attack on Americans. Like Beto, I can easily see who the lead predator is: the coward in the White House. 

Weepy recollections about the dead will not move this country toward a solution.

[hpslugga 4062]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't care if he quoted Karl Marx.  The guy drove 650 miles to kill brown people.  It doesn't have to be a clean sheet to understand that racism is at the core of this shooting and that Trump incites this type of behavior with his rhetoric.

That reminds me of the Dayton shooting. Right wingers are bellowing loudly all over social media about how this guy was a "socialist," was "anti-gun" and "supported Elizabeth Warren."

1. If he supported Warren, he couldn't have been a socialist, and fancying himself as one already raises questions about his mental faculties.
2. Nothing in Warren's speeches or in socialist literatures would have ever possibly condoned his actions. If he ever saw that in them, he simply was seeing things that weren't really there. That's the definition of what it is to be deluded.
3. If the Trump administration ever wanted to be correct about diagnosing "mental illness" as a cause of one of these shootings, this would have been their chance and to my understanding, they haven't even tried it. This guy loathed guns, loathed capitalism, loathed the Republicans, etc, and his solution was to...go to some random bar with a gun, shoot the place up, and in the process, take the life of his own sister...

Sounds like a nutcase to me.

[jimmyjazz 45997]

Well, one of the injured in El Paso succumbed to their injuries this morning.  I'm sure Trump is reliving his heartbreak all over again.

[Anastasis 23479]

 

45 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

There's an open fucking hunting season on brown people in this country.  There's your fucking fact.  You figure out where the fuck that comes from -- gosh, it's such a MYSTERY.

Quit your fucking equivocating. 

It is not equivocating to try to understand the many underlying factors and characteristics associated with mass murders like Christchurch and the El Paso shooting. Yes, one of those factors is disaffected white males finding engagement with racist nationalistic rhetoric. Another factor tying together these three mass murders, Christchuch, El Paso, and Poway is 8chan troll culture. The manifestos are a part of that.

[RomaVicta 29945]

3 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

Right wingers are bellowing loudly all over social media about how this guy was a "socialist," was "anti-gun" and "supported Elizabeth Warren."

Maybe Donald is on to something.

I want an expedited death sentence for lying cunts who don't care about the impact of their lies. 

[DixonHur 11342]

11 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

That reminds me of the Dayton shooting. Right wingers are bellowing loudly all over social media about how this guy was a "socialist," was "anti-gun" and "supported Elizabeth Warren."

Geez, who could have predicted that?

16 hours ago, DixonHur said:

watch the Right only focus on the Dayton shooter's ideology since he described himself as a "leftist", while the El Paso shooter will be blamed on video games, lack of prayer in schools, and mental health.

 

[wildcat09 29356]

23 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

In particular to the El Paso one, he weaves universal basic income, universal healthcare, corporate capture of the political apparatus, and environment talking points into his overarching anti-immigrant narrative. In one particularly incoherent section, he frames his anti-immigrant views in terms of the impact that immigrant "dependents" have making it more difficult for UBI and universal healthcare policy to succeed. 

This certainly doesn't echo very specific right-wing arguments from a certain very specific political party in a very specific country at a very specific time at all.

[bad_teammate 13219]

26 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

In particular to the El Paso one, he weaves universal basic income, universal healthcare, corporate capture of the political apparatus, and environment talking points into his overarching anti-immigrant narrative. In one particularly incoherent section, he frames his anti-immigrant views in terms of the impact that immigrant "dependents" have making it more difficult for UBI and universal healthcare policy to succeed. 

None of that is really "left" in any appreciable way. A welfare-state view of a nation is just as compatible with ethnic nationalism as it is with international views.

[Brisketexan 105164]

10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

It is not equivocating to try to understand the many underlying factors and characteristics associated with mass murders like Christchurch and the El Paso shooting. Yes, one of those factors is disaffected white males finding engagement with racist nationalistic rhetoric. Another factor tying together these three mass murders, Christchuch, El Paso, and Poway is 8chan troll culture. The manifestos are a part of that.

1) He killed people.

2) because they are fucking brown.

3) after our political leadership, at the very highest levels, has spent years demonizing brown people as murderers, rapists, invaders, vermin, etc.

Everything else is fucking details.  I don't care if these guys get together and have their masturbatory genocidal fantasies on 8Chan, in some guy's basement while yelling "MA!  THE MEATLOAF!", or at a goddamned Waffle House.  That's a fucking detail.

Stochastic terrorism bred actual physical terrorism, with real dead (brown) bodies.  Full stop.  Quit pissing around with the fucking details, and own the simple fact: we have a major homegrown genocidal terrorist problem, and it is and will continue to be stoked and courted by American political leadership.  We are a state sponsor of terrorism....right here at home.

[bad_teammate 13219]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

This certainly doesn't echo very specific right-wing arguments from a certain very specific political party in a very specific country at a very specific time at all.

Yeah looking at economic populism and saying that's "leftist" is like the smart brain geniuses who say, "Heh, it was the National SOCIALIST Party."

[Rougarou 594]

24 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

However unlikely it is, it's that much less likely that the "good guy with a gun" scenario actually plays itself out to the point where lives are saved. Any manifestation of "more guns" is dishonest because it asserts as fact something that is evidently not true. 

Oh and one more thing, we're at a point now where there is no doubt that when the default response from the right wing on these shootings is "thoughts and prayers," they are just trying to be offensive.

 

I'm not sure if you are generally expounding here or specifically reply to what I said. If it's the former, I will defer to you on what the data says and what is true or false around mass shootings as I've honestly just now kind of woke to the issue of mass shootings as something that will be part of our reality. If it's the latter, not sure what the thoughts and prayers dig to me was.

I'm pretty okay with being emotional/fear driven around this issue and wanting to buy a gun in the wake of this weekend and I'd wager I'm not the only one waking up to the realities today and being upset enough to want to buy a gun.

[wildcat09 29356]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1) He killed people.

2) because they are fucking brown.

3) after our political leadership, at the very highest levels, has spent years demonizing brown people as murderers, rapists, invaders, vermin, etc.

Everything else is fucking details.  I don't care if these guys get together and have their masturbatory genocidal fantasies on 8Chan, in some guy's basement while yelling "MA!  THE MEATLOAF!", or at a goddamned Waffle House.  That's a fucking detail.

Stochastic terrorism bred actual physical terrorism, with real dead (brown) bodies.  Full stop.  Quit pissing around with the fucking details, and own the simple fact: we have a major homegrown genocidal terrorist problem, and it is and will continue to be stoked and courted by American political leadership.  We are a state sponsor of terrorism....right here at home.

No, what's really important is to maintain the facade that there's some deeper rot that affects both sides and that therefore everyone is guilty and nobody is guilty.

Anastasis is preaching nihilism dressed up as something more intelligent.

[Brisketexan 105164]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

No, what's really important is to maintain the facade that there's some deeper rot that affects both sides and that therefore everyone is guilty and nobody is guilty.

Anastasis is preaching nihilism dressed up as something more intelligent.

Quoted for fucking truth.

Comment like he's fucking above it all.  His ass isn't in the literal fucking crosshairs of hate.  My family's ass is.  My friends' asses are.  I really fucking enjoyed being on the phone on Saturday making sure that my friends in El Paso (every one of them brown) were okay.  But I'm sure Anastasis enjoyed sipping his fucking cocktail, observing the carnage with a tsk tsk.

[wildcat09 29356]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Quoted for fucking truth.

Comment like he's fucking above it all.  His ass isn't in the literal fucking crosshairs of hate.  My family's ass is.  My friends' asses are.  I really fucking enjoyed being on the phone on Saturday making sure that my friends in El Paso (every one of them brown) were okay.  But I'm sure Anastasis enjoyed sipping his fucking cocktail, observing the carnage with a tsk tsk.

Odds are he will respond to this with some snide comment about your (alleged) relative lack of concern when the American military drops bombs on brown people in other countries.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

I'm not sure if you are generally expounding here or specifically reply to what I said. If it's the former, I will defer to you on what the data says and what is true or false around mass shootings as I've honestly just now kind of woke to the issue of mass shootings as something that will be part of our reality. If it's the latter, not sure what the thoughts and prayers dig to me was.
I'm pretty okay with being emotional/fear driven around this issue and wanting to buy a gun in the wake of this weekend and I'd wager I'm not the only one waking up to the realities today and being upset enough to want to buy a gun.

I mean, if it’s taken you this many massacred bodies to finally wake up to reality, better late than never I guess.

But if that upset is making you rush to buy a gun, you’re part of the problem.

Good luck on pulling out a pistol in the midst of a mass shooting against a guy in body armor that’s armed with a weapon of war. Congrats! You’ve just made yourself priority and target one for the murderer.

Your instinct to arm yourself and add more guns to the equation is what the NRA is counting on. And it won’t do ya a damn bit of good.

Call your elected officials. Protest. Donate to March For Our Lives. VOTE.

All of the above will not only be more useful than wearing a Glock on your hip at all times, it benefits not only you but your fellow Americans.

Don’t be a sucker.