Active shooter thread

[Satchel 6,938]

The New York subway murderer has been arrested. He’s 25 and has been arrested 25 times. How in the ever loving hell does somebody with his record have access to guns in a civilized society?

[Pancho 44,879]

 

[TexArcher 37,989]

Just now, Satchel said:

The New York subway murderer has been arrested. He’s 25 and has been arrested 25 times. How in the ever loving hell does somebody with his record have access to guns in a civilized society?

He doesn't.

[TXSG8R 3,362]

14 minutes ago, 'stache said:

What are you expecting them to do with only 50 seats in the senate, two of which will absolutely refuse to abolish the filibuster to get anything done? Blame those two if you want, but it's two out of 50, so they party as a whole has tried. The problem is that the right will never cast a single vote for anything that is popular with any voter on the left. Shitting on the democratic party is why young progressives refuse to vote and why we can never have the type of control needed to make any changes. Sure, mainstream democrats on the whole don't support universal healthcare and student loan forgiveness, so "tHeY'Re aLl tHe sAmE." I hate the non-voting progressives as much as I do Manchin/Synema, in addition to every republican in existence currently.

Manchen and Sinema will vote to protect their political future if it runs counter to any democratic agenda item, including gun legislation. What I said is accurate. Progressives are going to raise holy hell for the next few news cycles about dead kids, and ultimately nothing will come of it because the blue team (last I checked it included those two) will not pass anything that will impact the issue. 

[4th&Five 41,571]

37 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Is Rittenhouse the special guest?

[linux 1,660]

This level of serene resignation is something I have been grappling with ever since the golden escalator nightmare, it is fundamentally immoral to allow fascism to exist, their brains are wired for hate, like an opioid addict is wired for a hit, their physiology is wired for doing evil. Chamberlain was a clown that singlehandedly destroyed the anti-fascist coalition before the annexation of Czechoslovakia, it is the same shit we are seeing today, too many people having the debate as to whether it is moral to punch a Nazi, when the real debate is whether it is moral to not punch a Nazi.

The only way stable solution is post war German state, arrest them all. Everything else is waiting for the next stochastic terrorism, waiting for the next half-assed coup attempt to actually succeed. 

[mdmost 43,011]

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Nothing happened after Sandy Hook where a bunch of white kids were gunned down. Definitely nothing will happen after a bunch of brown kids in Uvalde we’re killed. Republicans, ladies and gentlemen 

I bet not just pushing past them and doing something, anything after Sandy Hook is Obama's biggest regret. Trump was always going to happen. We are a nation that does not give a shit about anyone but ourselves. There is no great good. There is only I'm getting mine.  

[4th&Five 41,571]

2 minutes ago, Satchel said:

The New York subway murderer has been arrested. He’s 25 and has been arrested 25 times. How in the ever loving hell does somebody with his record have access to guns in a civilized society?

[Satchel 6,938]

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

He doesn't.

But he shot and killed an innocent man on the subway who was on his way to brunch.

[Gap03 3,308]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

[4th&Five 41,571]

 

[956 Worldwide 34,737]

14 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Failed state.

Ken Paxton is a broken brained asshole but the parents who vote for him are more broken brained. I just can’t understand it. I cannot understand parents who will not along and agree that sending their kids to school in a fortress with armed guards is reasonable, is in fact BETTER than gun regulation. Who the fuck cares more about guns than their own kids’ right to a healthy and normal childhood. 

[Francisco 2.0 32,395]

 

 

[jimmyjazz 46,000]

Good lord, it's now 18 children and 3 adults.

But "muh guns".

['stache 21,825]

13 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Manchen and Sinema will vote to protect their political future if it runs counter to any democratic agenda item, including gun legislation. What I said is accurate. Progressives are going to raise holy hell for the next few news cycles about dead kids, and ultimately nothing will come of it because the blue team (last I checked it included those two) will not pass anything that will impact the issue. 

48 out of 50 would pass something if they could. They literally can't. I get the frustration, but painting the entire party as ineffective because of two internal obstructionists, and 50 from the outside, is asinine. The voters are poisoned. The majority are hateful morons who don't care. That's the root problem.

[WhatTheBuck 28,794]

1 hour ago, hookemATL said:

How many dead babies does it take to enact gun control in America?

More, I guess.

The GOP has stacked the court in order to say “Fuck you! It’s all a lie! We don’t actually care about human life!”

[Francisco 2.0 32,395]

Around the same time of the shootings:

 

 

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Well, Top Gun comes out this weekend so we got that to take our minds of this unimportant stuff. Murica motherfuckers.

[Brisketexan 105,177]

19 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Failed state.

Get this: the EXACT same teachers that the GQP absolutely cannot trust in any way to [checks notes] say ONE FUCKING WORD about race, and can't be trusted not to groom your kids to participate in debauched pedophilia orgies under a pizza parlor.....should be armed to the fucking teeth.

This fucking timeline.

13 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Is Rittenhouse the special guest?

After this shooting, it's actually possible he won't be.  But it is a 100% certainty that it was planned.

12 minutes ago, linux said:

This level of serene resignation is something I have been grappling with ever since the golden escalator nightmare, it is fundamentally immoral to allow fascism to exist, their brains are wired for hate, like an opioid addict is wired for a hit, their physiology is wired for doing evil. Chamberlain was a clown that singlehandedly destroyed the anti-fascist coalition before the annexation of Czechoslovakia, it is the same shit we are seeing today, too many people having the debate as to whether it is moral to punch a Nazi, when the real debate is whether it is moral to not punch a Nazi.

The only way stable solution is post war German state, arrest them all. Everything else is waiting for the next stochastic terrorism, waiting for the next half-assed coup attempt to actually succeed. 

linux gets it.  This is how it ends.  The book has already been written.  We're just getting to read the final chapters now.  We are a fascist nihilist death cult of a "nation," and we will end exactly like you'd expect such a thing to end: self-immolation.

[4th&Five 41,571]

Just now, Patricio Swayze said:

Well, Top Gun comes out this weekend so we got that to take our minds of this unimportant stuff. Murica motherfuckers.

Until someone shoots up a theater. Again. 

[Starfleet Command 441]

 

 

[B00M 6,430]

Another fucking 18 year old, man. Raise the age for males to purchase or possess a semi auto to 21. 

[Francisco 2.0 32,395]

 

 

[Pancho 44,879]

Now up to 18 kids and 3 adults per CNN and their source is a Texas state senator.

[Foosters 17,858]

3 minutes ago, B00M said:

Another fucking 18 year old, man. Raise the age for males to purchase or possess a semi auto to 21. 

California tried that. Liberal 9th circuit just struck it down as violative of the 2nd.

Only hope in pulling country back from Christofacism is packing SCOTUS. Good luck.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Foosters

[Snake Diggity 4,626]

3 common threads to these incidents:

1. Mentally ill person with a fuckton of warning signs.

2. That mentally ill person having access to firearms.

3. The armed mentally ill person being able to gain access to the school.

American society needs to address all 3.  That dude shouldn’t have been able to post violent shit on social media without somebody following up with authorities.  That dude should not have been able to get ahold of guns or ammo.  That school should have been locked.

The firearm industry should be treated with the heavy hand of both the automobile and cigarette industries.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Snake Diggity

[Bullneck 19,185]

11 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Around the same time of the shootings:

 

 

He tweeted that this afternoon?  Wow, just wow.

[TexArcher 37,989]

1 minute ago, Snake Diggity said:

3 common threads to these incidents:

1. Mentally ill person with a fuckton of warning signs.

2. That mentally ill person having access to firearms.

3. The armed mentally I’ll person being able to gain access to the school.

American society needs to address all 3.  That dude shouldn’t have been able to post violent shit on social media without somebody following up with authorities.  That dude should not have been able to get ahold of guns or ammo.  That school should have been locked.

The firearm industry should be treated with the heavy hand of both the automobile and cigarette industries.

Agree with all of that.

1 and 3 will take some time to address. 

2 could be done literally by next Monday.

[956 Worldwide 34,737]

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Get this: the EXACT same teachers that the GQP absolutely cannot trust in any way to [checks notes] say ONE FUCKING WORD about race, and can't be trusted not to groom your kids to participate in debauched pedophilia orgies under a pizza parlor.....should be armed to the fucking teeth.

This fucking timeline.

After this shooting, it's actually possible he won't be.  But it is a 100% certainty that it was planned.

linux gets it.  This is how it ends.  The book has already been written.  We're just getting to read the final chapters now.  We are a fascist nihilist death cult of a "nation," and we will end exactly like you'd expect such a thing to end: self-immolation.

“Gun grab conspiracy” theories already out there. Of course, since Sandy Hook and Stoneman, mass shootings have been accompanied by a steady expansion of gun rights and more gun purchases. A more logical conspiracy is that these are all being staged, but by gun rights nuts and not gun control advocates.  We are sliding into the abyss. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Thoughts and prayers are not gonna bring those kids back.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

3 common threads to these incidents:
1. Mentally ill person with a fuckton of warning signs.
2. That mentally ill person having access to firearms.
3. The armed mentally I’ll person being able to gain access to the school.
American society needs to address all 3.  That dude shouldn’t have been able to post violent shit on social media without somebody following up with authorities.  That dude should not have been able to get ahold of guns or ammo.  That school should have been locked.
The firearm industry should be treated with the heavy hand of both the automobile and cigarette industries.

To point 3, my wife is from Brazil and she is still shocked, even after living here for 13 years, that schools do not have large fences/walls around them. It freaks her out actually. And yeah, when I lived there I thought it seemed a bit much, but now, not so much. Only two ways in and there is security at the gate. Might as well give it a shot since we love guns more than kids.

[TexLonghorn 5,671]

38 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That would be great, but I'd love for Democrats to stop helping them be so terrible.

Just a small request.

A small request for the Dems to lessen the damage of the horrible policies and beliefs of the repubs?  But no request for the repubs to be less evil?  You do get that that’s putting the blame in the wrong place, yeah?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,881]

Fine, keep your fucking guns. Make each round $500 and you have to account for every spent shell. Every one. You shot it in the sky? Well, no more ammo for you, fuck face. 

Edited May 24, 2022 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Neonmoon 38,129]

1 minute ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Thoughts and prayers are not gonna bring those kids back.

I think it’s a little early to give up on voodoo. Let’s keep all options open 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,207]

Just now, TexLonghorn said:

A small request for the Dems to lessen the damage of the horrible policies and beliefs of the repubs?  But no request for the repubs to be less evil?  You do get that that’s putting the blame in the wrong place, yeah?

Well, expecting a party that's hell-bent on fascism to be less evil is as close to a loss cause as it gets.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,881]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

Well, expecting a party that's hell-bent on fascism to be less evil is as close to a loss cause as it gets.  

Yup, it's about how far against their principles the other side is willing to go without becoming the thing they're fighting. That's the finesse. And we ain't fucking there

[TexasEd 8,067]

Sandy Hook references been made?

Killed Grandma, Maybe Mom was a teacher

Killed the Kids in mom's classroom?

 

sick.

 

Next thing will be that fat fucker from InfoWars calling this a conspiracy.

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by TexasEd

[956 Worldwide 34,737]

6 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

To point 3, my wife is from Brazil and she is still shocked, even after living here for 13 years, that schools do not have large fences/walls around them. It freaks her out actually. And yeah, when I lived there I thought it seemed a bit much, but now, not so much. Only two ways in and there is security at the gate. Might as well give it a shot since we love guns more than kids.

Whether in Brazil or here or anywhere, this is a sign of a sick society. It does not occur to people living in healthy societies that small children need to be locked behind walls so they aren’t murdered. 

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Whether in Brazil or here or anywhere, this is a sign of a sick society. It does not occur to people living in healthy societies that small children need to be locked behind walls so they aren’t murdered. 

I don’t disagree. But half this country is not interested in programs that address mental health because muh taxes!!!

[Starfleet Command 441]

13 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

3 common threads to these incidents:

1. Mentally ill person with a fuckton of warning signs.

2. That mentally ill person having access to firearms.

3. The armed mentally ill person being able to gain access to the school.

American society needs to address all 3.  That dude shouldn’t have been able to post violent shit on social media without somebody following up with authorities.  That dude should not have been able to get ahold of guns or ammo.  That school should have been locked.

The firearm industry should be treated with the heavy hand of both the automobile and cigarette industries.

Do we know if this person was seeing a shrink or had been diagnosed with a mental disorder like bipolar, borderline, antisocial, etc.?

[TexArcher 37,989]

11 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

To point 3, my wife is from Brazil and she is still shocked, even after living here for 13 years, that schools do not have large fences/walls around them. It freaks her out actually. And yeah, when I lived there I thought it seemed a bit much, but now, not so much. Only two ways in and there is security at the gate. Might as well give it a shot since we love guns more than kids.

I told a friend in a text that I think this is what's coming.  We'll encircle our schools with 10-foot high concrete walls with rolls of barbed wire at the top.  One way in, through a security gate manned by an armed guard behind bullet-proof glass.  That'll put a stop to this, at schools anyway.

We'll send our kids to school at fucking prisons before we give up our guns.  Watch.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Do we know if this person was seeing a shrink or had been diagnosed with a mental disorder like bipolar, borderline, antisocial, etc.?

I mean, it’s obvious no? Diagnosed or not, he was mentally ill.

[TXSG8R 3,362]

20 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

3 common threads to these incidents:

1. Mentally ill person with a fuckton of warning signs.

2. That mentally ill person having access to firearms.

3. The armed mentally ill person being able to gain access to the school.

American society needs to address all 3.  That dude shouldn’t have been able to post violent shit on social media without somebody following up with authorities.  That dude should not have been able to get ahold of guns or ammo.  That school should have been locked.

The firearm industry should be treated with the heavy hand of both the automobile and cigarette industries.

2 is likely why 3 didn’t matter. We are up to 3 adults so my guess is he went through the locked school entry and shot the office people that screen people coming in and then went to the classroom. Access to firearms is the problem, and our slippery slope dumb fucks will ensure that nothing will be done to change that. 

[Woodrow Call 494]

There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats its children. -Nelson Mandela

[Starfleet Command 441]

1 minute ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I mean, it’s obvious no? Diagnosed or not, he was mentally ill.

This seems a little circular to me. 

[Mdhorn 5,974]

35 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Around the same time of the shootings:

 

 

and a Fed registry is still not enough.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Mdhorn

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

This seems a little circular to me. 

How so?

[Starfleet Command 441]

18 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

To point 3, my wife is from Brazil and she is still shocked, even after living here for 13 years, that schools do not have large fences/walls around them. It freaks her out actually. And yeah, when I lived there I thought it seemed a bit much, but now, not so much. Only two ways in and there is security at the gate. Might as well give it a shot since we love guns more than kids.

I’ve seen more than a few people argue that current Brazil is a vision of America’s future. 

[lemonlime 5,503]

6 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I mean, it’s obvious no? Diagnosed or not, he was mentally ill.

It's not like we're the only country in the world whose people suffer from mental illnesses.

 

[Mdhorn 5,974]

8 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I told a friend in a text that I think this is what's coming.  We'll encircle our schools with 10-foot high concrete walls with rolls of barbed wire at the top.  One way in, through a security gate manned by an armed guard behind bullet-proof glass.  That'll put a stop to this, at schools anyway.

We'll send our kids to school at fucking prisons before we give up our guns.  Watch.

I dunno man, they were against masked mandates. Of course they're for more guns but how are armed facilities a sign of freedom?  My guess is a push for more home schooling.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Mdhorn