Active shooter thread

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Homeschool your kids. It's not like they won't die at other places you might take them. Like the mall, the grocery store, the movie theater. 

I wasn't exactly shocked that one of the maroon faithful mentioned the flu killing more children...

I only clipped part of the post from the site, it was a long one. He/she went on to say that a lot more things kill children than school shootings. I guess that means he's in the T&P gang:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gee, if only there was a 'shot' for that?

[Biff Tannen 45692]

3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

Fucking hell

[HenryJames 66133]

 

[wildcat09 29355]

Let’s just deport all republicans.

[mdmost 43007]

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

 

And there you have it. This is why nothing will ever change. Guns are more valuable to Republicans than other people's children. Our children are simply the patriots whose blood has to be shed to the tree of Liberty. 

[Biff Tannen 45692]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I wasn't exactly shocked that one of the maroon faithful mentioned the flu killing more children...

I only clipped part of the post from the site, it was a long one. He/she went on to say that a lot more things kill children than school shootings. I guess that means he's in the T&P gang:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gee, if only there was a 'shot' for that?

JFC

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Let’s just deport all republicans.

“Go back to where you came from!”

[SimonBolivar 10958]

3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Let’s just deport all republicans.

Nobody would take them

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Nobody would take them

Maybe Russia would. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12473]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Nobody would take them

I have a modest proposal.

[wildcat09 29355]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Nobody would take them

Honduras and Guatemala have been losing a lot of people. They need some replacements.

[horn4life 3768]

"Another GOP sponsored, school shooting."

That is all these are, and that is exactly where the responsibility lies.  Not ALL the responsibility, as it's wrong to ignore the shooter, but the GOP repetitively allows these acts to be repeated over, and over, and over.  For political power.  The same reason they don't condemn people trying to. overthrow the government.  It's never principle, it's always political power.

and in a few weeks we will have another "GOP sponsored school shooting." That is the only certainty in our country now.

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I listened to Babin's response on that Newsmax twitter. That he mentioned defending property first and families second was rather telling.

[TXSG8R 3362]

Not going to go digging to find the Patrick quote about hardening targets, but this is a response to that and any idiot that takes that deflection seriously. 

It is impossible to harden a school to the point that it would be immune to a mass shooting. Even if you could overcome the tax burden (lol), there are just too many events that make school “school”, that renders all the walls, doors, etc a moot point. Even if you secure every door, put in a gun proof screening entry area, move playgrounds indoors or behind walls big enough to prevent shooting angles, add bulletproof auto locking interior doors, etc etc, you still aren’t there. Those mitigations assume a static environment, and schools are anything but. Kids still have to move in and out of Fort Knox Elementary every day, and the mitigations that make it more makes it harder to get in and out of. You just made the next school shooting have a more specific time (drop off or pick up). 

Nott if we have armed officers at every school at those times, checkmate libtard! Again, assuming we overcome the tax burden for that too (more lol), it’s still a pipe dream. Pick up and drop off are pure fucking chaos, and even a small army of cops couldn’t adequately cover the volume of potential threats in that environment, but let’s say you cover the base. Now the target shifts to school busses.  Even if you secure the loading of kids at the school, that bus is exposed to risk at every stop. What is stopping a nut from standing at a bus stop from just hopping on when the doors open and going ham?  Are we hiring armed security for every bus too?  You don’t even need to get on the bus, the sheet metal on a bus would probably struggle to stop a BB.  Are we going to up armor busses?  

Hardening the target is a fucking bullshit deflection by the NRA and their well paid spokespeople. We can’t harden schools, theaters, grocery stores, etc. The only realistic solution is reducing access to firearms, but we as a nation don’t have the guts to attempt it. 

[South Austin 52521]

27 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Find the identity of this firearms licensee, and doxx the hell out of him.

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

5 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Find the identity of this firearms licensee, and doxx the hell out of him.

All that would do is give him free advertising.  The "muh freedums" crowd would rally around him like a saint. 

[South Austin 52521]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

All that would do is give him free advertising.  The "muh freedums" crowd would rally around him like a saint. 

Well, then we'll all light bags of poop on fire and put them on his porch.*

 

 

 

 

*I called the shit "poop."

[Nivek 16946]

I wasn't exactly shocked that one of the maroon faithful mentioned the flu killing more children...
I only clipped part of the post from the site, it was a long one. He/she went on to say that a lot more things kill children than school shootings. I guess that means he's in the T&P gang:

 
 
 
 
 
 
Gee, if only there was a 'shot' for that?

I was told the Kung flu didn’t harm children by a Senator from Texas.

[TXSG8R 3362]

Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think the only way the 2A nuts really come to terms with this is with getting full exposure to the full gory details of events like this. Don’t show the happy photos of these kids. Show the footage from the crime scene. Show whats left of their heads. Run ads with this shit during every football game. We are numb to it because people aren’t exposed to the reality of what’s happening. It’s easy to say T&Ps to the smiling family photos of these kids. The only way you can sever the NRA’s hold on politicians is by making their money Chernobyl level untouchable. 

[Nivek 16946]

Honduras and Guatemala have been losing a lot of people. They need some replacements.

Are you saying they could be the replacements!

[mdmost 43007]

Just now, TXSG8R said:

Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think the only way the 2A nuts really come to terms with this is with getting full exposure to the full gory details of events like this. Don’t show the happy photos of these kids. Show the footage from the crime scene. Show whats left of their heads. Run ads with this shit during every football game. We are numb to it because people aren’t exposed to the reality of what’s happening. It’s easy to say T&Ps to the smiling family photos of these kids. The only way you can sever the NRA’s hold on politicians is by making their money Chernobyl level untouchable. 

No, it would only harden them. They'd just shift to "well this is why we need to arm teachers, hire armed security guards, put in force fields, hire precogs to tell us when things like this were going to happen and stop it. Anything to deflect from their precious guns which they love about as much as their pet or children.

[Royalfan5 2354]

20 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Not going to go digging to find the Patrick quote about hardening targets, but this is a response to that and any idiot that takes that deflection seriously. 

It is impossible to harden a school to the point that it would be immune to a mass shooting. Even if you could overcome the tax burden (lol), there are just too many events that make school “school”, that renders all the walls, doors, etc a moot point. Even if you secure every door, put in a gun proof screening entry area, move playgrounds indoors or behind walls big enough to prevent shooting angles, add bulletproof auto locking interior doors, etc etc, you still aren’t there. Those mitigations assume a static environment, and schools are anything but. Kids still have to move in and out of Fort Knox Elementary every day, and the mitigations that make it more makes it harder to get in and out of. You just made the next school shooting have a more specific time (drop off or pick up). 

Nott if we have armed officers at every school at those times, checkmate libtard! Again, assuming we overcome the tax burden for that too (more lol), it’s still a pipe dream. Pick up and drop off are pure fucking chaos, and even a small army of cops couldn’t adequately cover the volume of potential threats in that environment, but let’s say you cover the base. Now the target shifts to school busses.  Even if you secure the loading of kids at the school, that bus is exposed to risk at every stop. What is stopping a nut from standing at a bus stop from just hopping on when the doors open and going ham?  Are we hiring armed security for every bus too?  You don’t even need to get on the bus, the sheet metal on a bus would probably struggle to stop a BB.  Are we going to up armor busses?  

Hardening the target is a fucking bullshit deflection by the NRA and their well paid spokespeople. We can’t harden schools, theaters, grocery stores, etc. The only realistic solution is reducing access to firearms, but we as a nation don’t have the guts to attempt it. 

Just think of the logistics of trying to harden a t-ball league at a local park. 

[Homercles 10206]

5 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think the only way the 2A nuts really come to terms with this is with getting full exposure to the full gory details of events like this. Don’t show the happy photos of these kids. Show the footage from the crime scene. Show whats left of their heads. Run ads with this shit during every football game. We are numb to it because people aren’t exposed to the reality of what’s happening. It’s easy to say T&Ps to the smiling family photos of these kids. The only way you can sever the NRA’s hold on politicians is by making their money Chernobyl level untouchable. 

Or if someone shoots up the NRA event this Friday 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

23 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Hardening the target is a fucking bullshit deflection by the NRA and their well paid spokespeople. We can’t harden schools, theaters, grocery stores, etc. The only realistic solution is reducing access to firearms, but we as a nation don’t have the guts to attempt it. 

Yes, I heard the reference to which you refer and it's insane. All I could think of was the image below but the tomato pulp has been supplanted by...well you get the idea. Just as society began to open up to the possibilities of children of all races attending school together without escorts , society could open itself to an America of fewer guns, robust mental healthcare, and a community of caring. But just as there were folks that hardened their hearts to equality and diversity, there is only one word for those that have hardened their hearts against solutions such as firearms restriction: coward.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Mrs Whiggins

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

2 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Just think of the logistics of trying to harden a t-ball league at a local park. 

Ball fields often have a fence, while soccer fields are wide open. Not sure which would be more difficult as the thought ought to be inconceivable. Sad state of affairs.

[wildcat09 29355]

8 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think the only way the 2A nuts really come to terms with this is with getting full exposure to the full gory details of events like this. Don’t show the happy photos of these kids. Show the footage from the crime scene. Show whats left of their heads. Run ads with this shit during every football game. We are numb to it because people aren’t exposed to the reality of what’s happening. It’s easy to say T&Ps to the smiling family photos of these kids. The only way you can sever the NRA’s hold on politicians is by making their money Chernobyl level untouchable. 

They won’t care. They’ll just come up with false flag conspiracies, bitch about how evil the libs are for showing them dead kids, and further radicalize.

This doesn’t end with these people coming to their senses. It ends with enough of them dying, either of old age or by their own stupidity when they try to start a civil war.

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

7 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Just think of the logistics of trying to harden a t-ball league at a local park. 

And, back to the school campus, I guess all recesses should be held in a wall enclosed gymnasium.  Perhaps they can get some great ideas from our marvelous prison system. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I expect the Brown Convention Center cannot close down the NRA  event, but it'd be nice if they kicked them out of town. I looked around at the material for the event. The usual speakers and sponsors. In the promotional literature for exhibitors, they listed some demographic information on attendees (based on a survey). No surprise that the ticket holders are 79% male.

[TXSG8R 3362]

14 minutes ago, mdmost said:

No, it would only harden them. They'd just shift to "well this is why we need to arm teachers, hire armed security guards, put in force fields, hire precogs to tell us when things like this were going to happen and stop it. Anything to deflect from their precious guns which they love about as much as their pet or children.

 

6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

They won’t care. They’ll just come up with false flag conspiracies, bitch about how evil the libs are for showing them dead kids, and further radicalize.

This doesn’t end with these people coming to their senses. It ends with enough of them dying, either of old age or by their own stupidity when they try to start a civil war.

I agree you won’t reach the fringe, but that’s not the point. You make all the politicians that take the NRAs money think twice, and you gut check every mom that pulls the R lever going forward. Moderates shift around, no argument there, but seeing holes in littles kids faces would definitely make a lot (not all) politicians look a lot harder at their donations and messaging purely as a CYA response. Make dead kids just as much of an albatross for the right as abortions are for the left. 

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

6 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Someone mentioned it earlier, but I think the only way the 2A nuts really come to terms with this is with getting full exposure to the full gory details of events like this. Don’t show the happy photos of these kids. Show the footage from the crime scene. Show whats left of their heads. Run ads with this shit during every football game. We are numb to it because people aren’t exposed to the reality of what’s happening. It’s easy to say T&Ps to the smiling family photos of these kids. The only way you can sever the NRA’s hold on politicians is by making their money Chernobyl level untouchable. 

That might be right. My first view of death was back when they used to show images of dead US soldiers in Vietnam on the evening news. That was pretty harsh. And it helped to turn public opinion against the war. So at some point the networks decided to stop showing those images. Of American soldiers, anyway. We get a much more sanitized view of military conflict now.

Maybe if we saw the images of dead children in their classroom, so unrecognizable that their parents have to give DNA samples in order to identify them, it would make a difference. Just hold them up when every politician who’s a tool of the gun lobby argues that the solution is more guns. 

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

12 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Or if someone shoots up the NRA event this Friday 

Or were to park a truck loaded with ammonium nitrate outside. 

[Gourmand 7774]

45 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Let’s just deport all republicans.

I had a different verb in mind.

[Captainant 27682]

Yall I hate the NRA as much as the next guy, but some of that is getting close to terrorism rhetoric lol. Dial the surly back before you end up on some watchlist lol.

 

That said, I can't fucking believe that GRB convention center is allowing the event to stand. It's fucking abhorrent and disgusting and tasteless.

[cactusflinthead 27601]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Or were to park a truck loaded with ammonium nitrate outside. 

We actually track that now. You can get a bunch of bullets and nobody bats an eye, but if you get a ton (one pallet) of ammonium nitrate Homeland Security gets a report. I think the minimum level for reporting is 250lbs.

[SimonBolivar 10958]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

That said, I can't fucking believe that GRB convention center is allowing the event to stand. It's fucking abhorrent and disgusting and tasteless.

Yeah but money

[horn4life 3768]

I guess the good news is that FOX will cover this a lot better than a white MAGA mass murderer racist killing!  

Because... brown shooters fit almost as well with their constant racist drumbeat as Black shooters.  Fox just wishes there were more brown and black shooters, to make their coverage "balanced." 

And that is fucking sick!!! But is also absolutely true when you look at the volume of coverage devoted to shooting on Fox over time.

[Goofyboy 3293]

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

[Nivek 16946]

No, it would only harden them. They'd just shift to "well this is why we need to arm teachers, hire armed security guards, put in force fields, hire precogs to tell us when things like this were going to happen and stop it. Anything to deflect from their precious guns which they love about as much as their pet or children.

We need to harden school and provide armed security for the students. Hire Nivek’s construction and security firm to protect your children and let’s strike down those pesky fire regulations which can only delay and make it more expensive to protect your children.

[Caponata 151]

Just now, horn4life said:

I guess the good news is that FOX will cover this a lot better than a white MAGA mass murderer racist killing!  

Because... brown shooters fit almost as well with their constant racist drumbeat as Black shooters.  Fox just wishes there were more brown and black shooters, to make their coverage "balanced." 

And that is fucking sick!!! But is also absolutely true when you look at the volume of coverage devoted to shooting on Fox over time.

I'm seeing Twitter threads arguing if he is white-Hispanic or not. Not that a psychopath with easy access to guns just murdered a bunch of fucking children. This country is fucked. 

[mdmost 43007]

2 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

 Never. That's the point. 

[South Austin 52521]

Just now, Goofyboy said:

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

It's a deflection from responsibility.  When people demand action after yet another mass murder, this one following years of massacres in schools, churches, synagogues and other places of worship, nightclubs, and grocery stores, it's not politicization.  It's reform.  The Republican response otherwise is just political gaslighting. 

[Nivek 16946]

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

You really need this explained? The time to discuss it is when it is out of the public mind and we have moved on to something else.. or maybe when we achieve a period of no mass shootings for 5 years, then we will all be calm and ready to discuss it. Since that won’t happen…….

[OU Sucks 8888]

10 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

I am a legal and responsible gun owner.   They are locked in a safe in my garage that is bolted to my floor, other than my pistol that is in a biometric safety in my bedroom.  I have been shooting since I was 7 years old.  I’ve had guns put in my face by a thief (once) and wannabe Billy badasses (twice).  There are absolutely people that shouldn’t own Guns.  There are absolutely people that should.

Yeah, you seem totally responsible and don't come off as someone who can become unhinged at any second..

11 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

You’re a fucking clown.  Fuck you in the neck you petulant fuck 

So pray to the toy in the happy meal? 

if you think anyone is happy about this, you’re as fucking ignorant as your petulant posts in the Ukraine thread assure.  

 

11 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

What the fuck is “my ilk” you fucking cokehead fuck? 

 

10 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Sit on your thumb and rotate bro.  Jesus.  You fucks just assume someone votes for something anytime they disagree with you.  Mother of God some of y’all can’t fucking get it that I can disagree with you and chastise you on something and that doesn’t mean I’m sitting on my couch and slobbering over Tucker Carlson every night.  Jesus Christ your fucking circle jerk logic is more exhausting than Trumps’s fraudulent ass thinking he actually won the election 

[Pam Cummings 9646]

5 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

It's a way to not have to be a grown up and take responsibility. It's absolutely pathetic.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Pam Cummings

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Yall I hate the NRA as much as the next guy, but some of that is getting close to terrorism rhetoric

The GQP is a terrorist organization. They reap what they sow.

[hpslugga 4062]

56 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Maybe Russia would. 

So would Hungary

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

6 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

Many Republicans get a lot of money from the NRA. It’s that simple. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

6 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Can someone explain to me the “let’s not politicize this tragedy right now” bullshit? It seems that’s the circle the wagons line that gets brought out over and over.
If not now, when?

It's the Republican version of the DT threads.  Safe spaces for cunts who are okay with kids getting murdered. 

[CooterBrown 18015]

 

and before the small dick energy posters can respond that criminals will just use knives...

 

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by CooterBrown

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

I'm sure well noted piece of shit, johnny sack, will be along to tell us how spree shootings only account for a small, tiny percentage of kids deaths and we should just get over it.  Right, johnny?  I"m sure your church will be offering up lots of prayers and bible verses to show you're not all soulless cunts.