Active shooter thread

[Snake Diggity 4,622]

I am pretty surprised there haven’t been more protests/riots etc about this.  Contrasted to the reaction to something like George Floyd’s murder (for which I think the resulting nationwide protest was justified), you would think 19 little children getting slaughtered while cops cowered in fear nearby would trigger a similar if not greater response.

[Nivek 16,923]

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

@markstanco, read this you fucker. Let me bold my 'favorite' part.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

Miah is braver than anybody with Uvalde PD.

I'm so fucking pissed off.

Put her in charge. /Hudson

Edited May 27, 2022 by Nivek

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,869]

Seems to me posters like @markstanco are the exact reason we need gun registry. I mean, if you have nothing to hide in your background, then why fear a background check and gun registration? Makes ya think!

[C-Man 27,217]

Seems to me posters like [mention=1619]markstanco[/mention] are the exact reason we need gun registry. I mean, if you have nothing to hide in your background, then why fear a background check and gun registration? Makes ya think!

It’s the Republican credo: “Rules for thee but not for me!”

[chainsaw 9,865]

6 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I am pretty surprised there haven’t been more protests/riots etc about this.  Contrasted to the reaction to something like George Floyd’s murder (for which I think the resulting nationwide protest was justified), you would think 19 little children getting slaughtered while cops cowered in fear nearby would trigger a similar if not greater response.

George Floyd we knew all the facts that would have been concealed in a police report, only because of a brave onlooker with technology that didn't exist for decades when police murders were common and trivial to sweep under the rug. There was no #MinneapolisStrong tragedy porn phase, either. People need a few days to do their performative bullshit, although it used to be weeks back in the Columbine days.

Uvalde has been a slow drip of misinformation, disinformation, and damning details. We will see the protests very soon, once everyone's done feeling sad.

[DigglerontheHoof 21,191]

Cowards trying to twist their story so they can be lauded as heroes and get a fucking parade.  

Cops are cowards.  Full stop. 

[washparkhorn 9,939]

There is a reason shitlibs are called shit libs  

neera is almost as dumb as Texas Repubs.

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,395]

30 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Oh, I'm seeing this all over social media. They're blaming the decline of the "nuclear family" as a prime reason for the rise in these mass shootings. But not guns. It's never the guns.

In some ways, they ---- and even Stanco ----- are correct. It's not the guns per se.  It's crazy (or violent) people with easy access to guns. 

But, ultimately its easier to get rid of the guns than it is the crazy people. 

 

[Keef 764]

Per the NYT, the Border Patrol swat team unit was there at noon - far earlier than previously disclosed - and was ordered by the UPD not to go in (Border Patrol had no idea why).  

[Sbbruin 21,844]

23 minutes ago, C-Man said:

@markstanco, read this you fucker. Let me bold my 'favorite' part.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

Miah is braver than anybody with Uvalde PD.

I'm so fucking pissed off.

I just watched the report on her.  Fuck.  A child should never have to go through this.  And she's the lucky one.

[Queen Bitch 1,692]

15 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I am pretty surprised there haven’t been more protests/riots etc about this.  Contrasted to the reaction to something like George Floyd’s murder (for which I think the resulting nationwide protest was justified), you would think 19 little children getting slaughtered while cops cowered in fear nearby would trigger a similar if not greater response.

High school student bodies across the country have been staging walkouts all week. It’s all over Twitter but for some reason the media isn’t covering it much.  

To which I say, don’t stop kids. As a bonus, you get to cut class!

[wildcat09 29,349]

Cops making false statements to the public needs to be made a felony. It'd be better if they just shut the fuck up and spent a week saying "we're trying to gather all the evidence and can't say anything until we do" than their immediate copaganda bullshit.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11,819]

If our elected representatives were serious about addressing the mental health crisis in this country, 3/4 of them would create an asylum and commit themselves voluntarily.  Because they are fucking lunatics.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,190]

2 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

And there it is. A U.S. Senator blames the shooting on CRT. Listen guys, background checks won’t stop all of these. But we have to stop to teaching CRT.

 

Fuck that mother fucker.

[TexArcher 37,774]

Sen. Ron Johnson seems like a disgusting piece of shit.

[chainsaw 9,865]

The dangers of an all-cheese diet

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

18 minutes ago, Keef said:

Per the NYT, the Border Patrol swat team unit was there at noon - far earlier than previously disclosed - and was ordered by the UPD not to go in (Border Patrol had no idea why).  

probably so the cops could go in and grab their kids before Border Patrol went in and exchanged gunfire.

[TexLonghorn 5,663]

According to CNN:

"US Marshals said in a statement they were called to the school at 11:30 a.m. and arrived about 40 minutes later from Del Rio, about 70 miles away."

So even if these Del Rio Marshals were able to head out of their station the very second they were called, they would have to have gone

105 miles an hour on average for the whole trip?  Faster than that if you consider the time they took to get prepared and actually get into the cars.  Would that even be a possibility on that stretch of road?  I've never driven from Del Rio to Uvalde, but hell, I can't even drive the full speed limit on most 70-mile trips because of some wide-load mobile home or slow truck packed with too much furniture along the way.  Is this just another LEO exaggeration of how they did everything right to deflect blame?

Edited May 27, 2022 by TexLonghorn

[ChiTownDoc 21,152]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

Guys, markstanco is literally too stupid to insult. You all know this by now.

Markstanco, the can’t insult comic monkey.  

[chainsaw 9,865]

2 minutes ago, TexLonghorn said:

According to CNN:

"US Marshals said in a statement they were called to the school at 11:30 a.m. and arrived about 40 minutes later from Del Rio, about 70 miles away."

So even if these Del Rio Marshalls were able to head out of their station the very second they were called, they would have to have gone

105 miles an hour on average for the whole trip?  Faster than that if you consider the time they took to get prepared and actually get into the cars.  Would that even be a possibility on that stretch of road?  I've never driven from Del Rio to Uvalde, but hell, I can't even drive the full speed limit on most 70-mile trips because of some wide load mobile home or slow trucks packed with too much furniture along the way.  Is this just another LEO exaggeration of how they did everything right to deflect blame?

 

I think there's a checkpoint. But they're strict. Even if you show your military ID you'll get detained for several minutes against your freedoms and god given rights. Cooperation is not enough.

[softlynow 1,814]

13 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Cops making false statements to the public needs to be made a felony. It'd be better if they just shut the fuck up and spent a week saying "we're trying to gather all the evidence and can't say anything until we do" than their immediate copaganda bullshit.

IA should be the best funded part of every department, and successful investigators the best rewarded in the department (and their time there should be capped to prevent an overreach of that power).

Also, and I've said this before, any fact about an interaction between LE and the rest of us should be inadmissible unless it is seen AND heard on dash and/or body cam. Too often I've reviewed body cam footage that suddenly cuts out one or the other right at the moment I need to see/hear the most. Most video footage I watch only confirms the cops' stories, so what are they so afraid of?

[C-Man 27,217]

18 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Sen. Ron Johnson seems like IS a disgusting piece of shit.

Fixed for accuracy

[Bama Chick 28,596]

This is going to get even uglier, I’m afraid.

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

 

[Nivek 16,923]

9 minutes ago, softlynow said:

IA should be the best funded part of every department, and successful investigators the best rewarded in the department (and their time there should be capped to prevent an overreach of that power).

Also, and I've said this before, any fact about an interaction between LE and the rest of us should be inadmissible unless it is seen AND heard on dash and/or body cam. Too often I've reviewed body cam footage that suddenly cuts out one or the other right at the moment I need to see/hear the most. Most video footage I watch only confirms the cops' stories, so what are they so afraid of?

Stop watching TV.  IA isn't there to police the police, they are there to cover their ass. 

[Michael Knight 12,977]

 

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

15 minutes ago, TexLonghorn said:

According to CNN:

"US Marshals said in a statement they were called to the school at 11:30 a.m. and arrived about 40 minutes later from Del Rio, about 70 miles away."

So even if these Del Rio Marshalls were able to head out of their station the very second they were called, they would have to have gone

105 miles an hour on average for the whole trip?  Faster than that if you consider the time they took to get prepared and actually get into the cars.  Would that even be a possibility on that stretch of road?  I've never driven from Del Rio to Uvalde, but hell, I can't even drive the full speed limit on most 70-mile trips because of some wide load mobile home or slow trucks packed with too much furniture along the way.  Is this just another LEO exaggeration of how they did everything right to deflect blame?

Well, they do have lights and sirens and most of the traffic does still pull over to the side of the road to let them pass.

[Firemans4Horn 18,046]

🤮 🤮 🤮 

 

this entire thing makes me tremendously sad. And we could have prevented it 10+ Years ago. 

[ultimaton 2,974]

4 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Why don't you post the Abbott/Cruz/Paxton/Patrick boys donating blood? (there is one, isn't there?)

[Mdhorn 5,948]

Crazy how with all the technology existing, cops still just blankly lie to the public--and get away with it.  These dudes were basically waiting for the shooter to run out of ammo before doing their jobs.  So instead, Republicans want to rely on teachers to be first responders and secure the area so these lying fucksticks can swoop in and talk tough.  I hope they all had their big guns and body armor available as they sat the sidelines scared shitless to help a bunch of children.  Fucking disgusting.  

But somehow these pretend bad asses are going to take on a rogue government with their right to bear arms.  

[Dr. Teeth 5,844]

Wokeness 

Chicago

Trans people

Doors

Video Games

Dead teacher  

 

[JFKFC 4,878]

The Republicans have their top intellects on the case.

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

If they're blaming a woman, then you know they're keeping it on brand.

[DigglerontheHoof 21,191]

That poor motherfucker is dain bramaged. 

[Mdhorn 5,948]

9 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

 

Because nothing says barricaded suspect like the sound of repeated gunfire and teachers calling that children are being shot.  

[BrickHorn 18,219]

NSIAP:

Entire U.S. Police Force Flees Country After Hearing Gunman Inside Nation

[Dr. Teeth 5,844]

2 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

The Republicans have their top intellects on the case.

 

 

Normally if you are this dumb, you just hide him until election night. But in the new Republican Party, you put him out every day and watch the lead increase. Just don’t talk bad about the party and you win. 

[lemonlime 5,503]

I just watched the report on her.  Fuck.  A child should never have to go through this.  And she's the lucky one.

She’s not the lucky one. Her family is. She’s going to have to live with this for the rest of her life.

[DigglerontheHoof 21,191]

1 minute ago, Mdhorn said:

Because nothing says barricaded suspect like the sound of repeated gunfire and teachers calling that children are being shot.  

They heard every shot and sat there cowering in their own fear-piss. 

[Dr. Teeth 5,844]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

They heard every shot and sat there cowering in their own fear-piss. 

Ten bucks says they all get medals from the Mayor in the next month. 

[Starfleet Command 441]

Also saw a report in the Daily Mail I believe that 150! cops were outside the school during the long wait.

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

Ted should go ahead and retract his last sentence from this Tuesday tweet.

 

[Mdhorn 5,948]

4 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Ted should go ahead and retract his last sentence from this Tuesday tweet.

 

Well, there was this teacher that repeatedly left the door propped open, which prevented law enforcement from doing their job and acting heroically.  Hey Ted, what time is that Cancun flight? 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Mdhorn

[horn4life 3,760]

Interesting a lot of detail on the propped open door that teachers walked by, but when asked about "Where was the resource officer?"   Answer; "We will have all those answers down the road."   What is interesting to me is that timeline here BEGINS at the school, rather than after the shooting of the Grandmother in the face.  

11:27 door propped open by teacher; 11:28 truck crashes, teacher runs for phone from room #132 (outing the teacher) then goes to door that remains propped open; 11:30 teacher calls 911 man with a gun as the kid opens fire on funeral home workers.  11:31 first shots fired at school.  11:36 killer enters school. 

I feel sorry for the guy talking as he is tasked with standing up and giving indefensible timelines for indefensible inaction.  Hundreds of rounds fired initially.  Basically the logic is that all the kids are already dead. And that guides the decision to not breach sooner.  You will notice as this drags on that almost all the inaccurate information originally given will be more flattering to law enforcement.  The information that comes out later that is accurate will most often be information that is unflattering.

It is a horrible thing for anyone to have to stand up and address this shit.  I genuinely feel sorry for the guy.  But I also recognize why the door propped open was mentioned twice early in the press conference, and the timeline starts at the school rather than when Grandma gets shot in the face. It's by design.

 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11,819]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Ten bucks says they all get medals from the Mayor in the next month. 

[TexArcher 37,774]

2 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Ted should go ahead and retract his last sentence from this Tuesday tweet.

 

There are only a few hundred people in the entire nation who have the ability to actually do something about this.

And most of them are content to just pray on it.

We don't even deserve to call ourselves a civilized nation anymore, much less a superpower.

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,191]

JFC, rage doesn't even cover it anymore.  Those cops are a disgrace. 

[Michael Knight 12,977]

The official story about Uvalde is going to keep changing until they find one that white people are comfortable with

If the good guys with guns did nothing, that argument is over.
If the police waited for the murders to happen, then Blue Lives are the Only Ones That Matter.
If 40% of a city's budget isn't enough to stop one teen, the police should be defunded.
If the Shooter is a US citizen, it isn't immigrants killing your children.
If he bought his gun legally, it isn't loopholes arming demented people.

So my guess is this will be like Sandy Hook; conspiracies, actors, false flags, etc.

[Aqua Buddha 14,590]

11 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

Also saw a report in the Daily Mail I believe that 150! cops were outside the school during the long wait.

Now we’re starting to learn why they want to arm the teachers.  They can do the police’s job.

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

50 minutes ago, Keef said:

Per the NYT, the Border Patrol swat team unit was there at noon - far earlier than previously disclosed - and was ordered by the UPD not to go in (Border Patrol had no idea why).  

So it's UPD that's going to take the fall.