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4th&Five
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Fuck off. You vote for this shit. Explain that to your kids. 

Pancho
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3rd leg of my move from Houston to the Bay Area, and I made it to LA.   I’m just now catching up on the news in my hotel.  I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again—I don’t have kids, but this e

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WTF world are we living in when people are having a discussion about survival rates of certain rounds? People are being terrorized by gun violence and we're discussing which bullet has worse/better ch

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23 hours ago, bolverk said:

One dead and four wounded, including a 4-year-old girl, at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans last night.

 

23 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My friends were at that parade.  Only a matter of time before this becomes personal.

Our Dallas group that goes to Bacchus every year were in the float two ahead of where that happened, apparently. My wife and I haven't been in the last six or seven years.

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I just don’t get these crazy people:

Alabama Republican Congressman Barry Moore has put forward a bill making the AR-15 assault rifle the “national gun” of the US.

Mr Moore visited a gun shop in Troy in the southern part of the state on Tuesday, revealing the legislation.

“The anti-Second Amendment group won’t stop until they take away all your firearms,” he claimed in a statement after announcing the proposed law at Family Firearms, according to AL.com. “One rule to remember: any government that would take away one right would take away them all.”

“The Second Amendment is as American a right as freedom of speech, religion, and the press,” he added. “Second Amendment rights are worth protecting and must not be infringed, and we must send a message that we will meet every attack on any of our constitutional rights.”

Congressional records show that the full text of the bill hasn’t been provided, but the law would “declare an AR-15 style rifle chambered in a .223 Remington round or a 5.56x45mm NATO round to be the National Gun of the United States

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“One rule to remember: any government that would take away one right would take away them all.”

Then propose and back legislation to reinstate the abortion rights federally. Or take your AR-15 and blow your fucking brains out like 45 percent of this country should do. 

I'm done with civility. I'm done feigning caring about the people of this country. Go blow your own brains out or ingest all the fentanyl laced street drugs you can find. Do us all a favor

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14 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Normal country. 

 

I figured the two had to be connected. They’re saying it was the same shooter in both incidents. No word on why the shooter returned to the scene of the crime. Whether it was to finish the job or he was just crazy.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/journalist-child-killed-florida-shootings-orlando

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bolverk

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3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Big if true

 

Wow.

https://www.kens5.com/video/news/crime/active-shooters-reported-at-jbsa-chapman-training-annex-main-entry-gate/273-e39ea1bd-2a78-464a-9c80-b35cdba17e9d

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2024/08/17/multiple-active-shooters-reported-near-jbsa-lackland-base-officials-say/

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Fudge Nuggets

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On 8/17/2024 at 9:09 AM, bolverk said:

Wow.

https://www.kens5.com/video/news/crime/active-shooters-reported-at-jbsa-chapman-training-annex-main-entry-gate/273-e39ea1bd-2a78-464a-9c80-b35cdba17e9d

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2024/08/17/multiple-active-shooters-reported-near-jbsa-lackland-base-officials-say/

Good grief, I've become so jaded to this shit I didn't even know this happened.

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9 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good grief, I've become so jaded to this shit I didn't even know this happened.

Yeah....the fact that there are no further reports on it tells me that maybe what is reported didn't actually happen.  More likely, there were a couple of gangbangers shooting at each other near the gates, and the initial call from the gaurdbooth was some sort of "we're under fire" sort of thing, which never got corrected or explained.

Because....dude...if a bunch of dudes bum-rush a military base shooting the whole time, and base security shoots back...that story has fucking LEGS.

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https://defector.com/run-hide-fight-die

 

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Hey, teachers going back to work and parents of kids going to class for another school year, the FBI's got a video for you! It’s a six-minute PSA called “Run. Hide. Fight. – Safe in Schools.”

A friend who teaches at the Northern Virginia school where it was filmed recently sent the clip to me. For those who didn’t and won’t, I watched. The feds' attempt to sterilize school shootings would be comical if the real-world body count weren’t so high. There are no guns or deaths in the whole movie. No ambulances in the parking lot. Not even a single scream.

Good god, what a phony, deflating piece of crap.

 

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The film opens before the first bell of the day with the principal, a P.E. teacher, a science teacher and a librarian strolling down a hallway making small talk about exercise, school fairs and field trips. The bell rings, and everything’s peachy until about the one-minute mark, when gunshots start pop-pop-popping over a soundtrack of ominous keyboard music. Nobody screams.

Nobody ever screams. Kids in the gym calmly obey the P.E. teacher as she calmly counsels them to run outside. She then turns to the camera and wants viewers to know that when their school gets shot up, they should, “Keep your empty hands up and follow all instructions by the police.” 

 

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Cut to the science class where kids calmly obey their teacher when he calmly tells them to hide. He then turns to the camera to tell viewers that when their school gets shot up, they should not “get under desks and freeze” because “that makes an easy target for the attacker.” An apparent maintenance man with a nametag (“PAT”) on his shirt appears in the science teacher’s classroom with bloodstains from an unseen arm wound and is calmly told, “You’ll be fine.” 

 

 

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The librarian is then shown in the library calmly telling two underlings that the unseen gunman is blocking their only exit, and there’s nowhere to hide between the bookshelves so they’re going to fight. “If you control the weapon, you control the shooter,” the librarian tells the audience, while calmly giving out battle plans to her two coworkers: “I'll go for the gun. Kate, you go for the arms. Alex, you go for the head.”

Bookish-looking Alex calmly nods her head in the affirmative and grabs a decorative rock off a shelf. I guess that stone gives her a slightly better chance when the shadow of the apparent gunman appears and they head off to engage him. But in the real world none of these folks are getting out of this sort of encounter without bullet holes.

This isn’t the real world, of course. This is a government movie. The screen goes dark before we see cops running into the library and the librarians telling them, “We got him!” 

Soon enough, all the main characters reunite outside in the parking lot, and everybody’s happy. The film ends with a tutorial on how to follow the run, hide, fight plan. In the end, only Pat the maintenance man spilled any blood. But, again, he’s going to be OK.

Far as I can tell, the Department of Justice never put out a press statement or otherwise announced the release of the school shooting video. I can't blame them. Whoever greenlit this worthlessness probably had to run and hide from their superiors once it was finished. An FBI spokesperson declined to answer any of Defector’s questions, including queries regarding who produced the movie or how much money was spent making it. 

According to the data site Statista.com, there were 82 school shootings in the U.S. last year. All of us who send our children to school in this country are playing the odds.

Happy school year, everybody. You’ll be fine.

 

https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/run-hide-fight-020824.mp4/view

 

 

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10 year old boy kills 82 year old former mayor of a Louisiana town and a 31 year old woman after argument, possibly over charges on a credit card for playing video games.

I realize that "only" two dead might not be a "mass" shooting, but ... a 10 year old?  It's beyond tragic, isn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/03/louisiana-boy-fatally-shoots-former-mayor

 

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59 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Until we acknowledge that guns are a problem, things will only get worse.

Some know it's the problem, they just don't care because they are horny for them and want no restrictions put in place that could eventually affect their ability to get their sacred weapons. 

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3 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

10 year old boy kills 82 year old former mayor of a Louisiana town and a 31 year old woman after argument, possibly over charges on a credit card for playing video games.

I realize that "only" two dead might not be a "mass" shooting, but ... a 10 year old?  It's beyond tragic, isn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/03/louisiana-boy-fatally-shoots-former-mayor

 

Why do you hate the 2nd Amendment?  There cannot and should not be any laws limiting the age a patriotic American needs to be before they exercise their right to keep and bear arms.

You think I'm kidding.  Read the SCOTUS in Bruen.  Unless there was a law in 1789 that said "a 10 year old can't have a pistol," age-limit laws now are unconstitutional.

I know, I know, "Brisket, always with the hyperbole and ledge stuff."  Except, you know, that's an exact legal position and outcome that has already happened post-Bruen:

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U.S. District Court Judge Robert Payne in Richmond said the government failed to prove that restrictions on the purchase of firearms by 18- to 20-year-olds is “part of our Nation’s history and tradition.” The former President George H.W. Bush-appointee said the government didn’t present any evidence of such restrictions “from the colonial era, Founding or Early Republic.”

The lack of similar regulations from those time periods indicates that the “Founders considered age-based regulations on the purchase of firearms to circumscribe the right to keep and bear arms confirmed by the Second Amendment,” he wrote.

The hardcore 2nd amendment crowd opposes ALL limits on age for firearms possession, and if you read Bruen as Thomas (the author) intended -- and he has made his intended reading quite clear -- age limits, of ANY TYPE, are unconstitutional.  So....the 10 year old here had every right to that gun, and you are an America-hating commie libtard for even suggesting otherwise.

I wish I was kidding.

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

You need three or more victims for a "mass shooting" confirmation, I'll give you four dead in Chicago train shooting.

Investigators search for answers in Chicago train shooting that killed 4 passengers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/03/us/chicago-train-shooting-tuesday/index.html

What do we need for an active shooter situation? This is the active shooter thread.

We have a mass shootings thread.

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/2292-mass-shootings

Just wanted to point that out.

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Perhaps four deceased now and up to 30 injured though guy on CNN cautioning that could include kids and staff running away from shooting and getting hurt.

Jesus, this country's relationship with guns is grotesque.

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