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My kid is a Jr at FSU. She drove home tonight after sobbing all afternoon with her shaken friends. Luckily SWAT was quickly outside their house so she was never in danger, but can’t help but think there’s scars nonetheless. Fuck we have failed so miserably

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Also, when you’re frantically searching for updates, it doesn’t help that google needs clarification on which shooting at that school you’re talking about

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A student who witnessed the gunman approach campus and begin opening fire said the shooter pulled up to campus in an orange Hummer and got out holding a rifle and shooting in her direction.

 

“I think he was shooting and he missed. So he goes back into his car and grabs a pistol, then he turns and shoots the lady in front of him. That’s when I just started running," McKenzie Heeter, a junior at FSU, told NBC News.

Heeter described the shooter as a “normal college dude.”

Reid Seybold, a senior at FSU who was around the corner from the shooting when it unfolded, said he knew Ikner from a political discussion group at Tallahassee State College, where he spent the first two years of his education before he transferred to FSU.

Seybold, the group's president, said Ikner was asked not to return to the group because of views that Seybold said aligned with white supremacy.

 

“He espoused so much white supremacist rhetoric and far-right rhetoric, as well,” Seybold said.

 

Since then, Seybold said, he has seen Ikner only a couple of times in passing.

 

The current president of the same club, Riley Pusins, said that at meetings, the suspect advocated for President Donald Trump’s agenda and often promoted white supremacist values, even though the club was nonpartisan and was about debate and political discourse.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fsu-shooter-suspect-phoenix-ikner-orange-hummer-what-know-edited-rcna201811

 

A review of court records show Phoenix Ikner had a tumultuous childhood, with another woman — identified in the documents as his biological mother — accused of removing him from the US in violation of a custody agreement when he was 10 years old.

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Ikner is a registered Republican, according to Florida voter registration records. He was quoted in January in an FSU student newspaper article about anti-Trump protests in advance of the president’s inauguration.

“These people are usually pretty entertaining, usually not for good reasons,” Ikner, who was described as a political science major, was quoted as saying. “I think it’s a little too late, he’s [Trump] already going to be inaugurated on Jan. 20 and there’s not really much you can do unless you outright revolt, and I don’t think anyone wants that.”

The shooting suspect later changed his name from Christian Eriksen to Phoenix Ikner, a law enforcement source confirmed to CNN.

According to an affidavit from a sheriff’s detective, the child’s biological mother told his father that she would take him to South Florida for spring break in March 2015. Instead, she “fled the country with him in violation of their custody agreement,” taking him to Norway, the affidavit said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/florida-state-university-shooting-phoenix-ikner-invs/index.html

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5 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Which is amazing considering the stats of how common black on white violent crime is. 

Since it is a well known and established fact that criminals commit crime where they roost, race related crime is not all that common.

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4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

No, he’s just a racist piece of shit. 

What I dislike the most is drive by racists. They pop in and say something factually incorrect and don't stay for their comeuppance. Looks like @Pancho and @Satchel already handled it.

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9 hours ago, UTHornFan014 said:

This Ikner guy was probably just trying to shoot some freedom seeds down range

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You can tell he’s imagining he’s sending his freedom seed into a couch crevice

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12 hours ago, UTHornFan014 said:

This Ikner guy was probably just trying to shoot some freedom seeds down range

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Wonder if mascara rattles loose and obscures his vision

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10 hours ago, Lurch said:

My kid is a Jr at FSU. She drove home tonight after sobbing all afternoon with her shaken friends. Luckily SWAT was quickly outside their house so she was never in danger, but can’t help but think there’s scars nonetheless. Fuck we have failed so miserably

Failed?  This is going exactly as planned.  

 

 

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14 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Which is amazing considering the stats of how common black on white violent crime is. 

Oh yeah? You should post some stats on that.

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Wasn’t someone who was in the Sandy Hook shooting interviewed a year or so ago because they were victim to another school shooting at their high school/college?

 

This is where we are now and radical republicans like Ana don’t give a shit.

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15 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Which is amazing considering the stats of how common black on white violent crime is. 

Sure, in the imagination of neurotics, racists, paranoids and dupes. But in the real world where most of us live that's nonsense.

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3 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Oh yeah? You should post some stats on that.

Give him a minute. He's PMing Johnny Sack, so he can send some bar graphs from his hard drive.

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

The son of a cop was a white nationalist?! Truly shocking news. 

Saw a report that one of the guns was his dad's. Any chance charges get brought upon deputy dipshit? Lol jk...

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7 hours ago, Thatguy said:

What I dislike the most is drive by racists. They pop in and say something factually incorrect and don't stay for their comeuppance. Looks like @Pancho and @Satchel already handled it.

Not really, just don't have tapa to post the chart.  Here's a link or two, if you're interested.    

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

The atrocities of slavery are always going to be a fact.  Pointing to them as a reason to commit violent crime at exponentially higher rates than your neighbors several hundred years later is suspect at best.   

4 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Oh yeah? You should post some stats on that.

Is data from the FBI good enough, or is murder another one of the systemically racist parts of our justice system?  While I'm certain you don't need a reminder, AA make up less than 14% of the US population.   

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2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

The son of a cop was a white nationalist?! Truly shocking news. 

 

39 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Saw a report that one of the guns was his dad's. Any chance charges get brought upon deputy dipshit? Lol jk...

Stepmom's, not dad's. Shooter's stepmother is the deputy sheriff.

White supremacy/nationalist details and more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/florida-state-university-shooting-phoenix-ikner-invs/index.html

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44 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

Saw a report that one of the guns was his dad's. Any chance charges get brought upon deputy dipshit? Lol jk...

In Florida?  I'm gonna say no.

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24 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Not really, just don't have tapa to post the chart.  Here's a link or two, if you're interested.    

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

The atrocities of slavery are always going to be a fact.  Pointing to them as a reason to commit violent crime at exponentially higher rates than your neighbors several hundred years later is suspect at best.   

Is data from the FBI good enough, or is murder another one of the systemically racist parts of our justice system?  While I'm certain you don't need a reminder, AA make up less than 14% of the US population.   

Agree or disagree that in your lifetime, institutionalized racism has ensured that Black families face significantly higher challenges in building generational wealth, obtaining a quality education, and escaping poverty?

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4 hours ago, Pancho said:

Wasn’t someone who was in the Sandy Hook shooting interviewed a year or so ago because they were victim to another school shooting at their high school/college?

 

This is where we are now and radical republicans like Ana don’t give a shit.

I thought it was Marjorie Stoneman Taylor HS and Michigan State.

(Edit: nope, the Oxford HS shooting.  Don't remember that one)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/14/us/michigan-state-shooting-students-gun-violence.html

 

 

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They all want to be little Timothy McVeighs and Eric Harris’s. Incel losers making the world pay for how big of losers they are using white supremacy as their ideological muse and violence as the way to make them pay. I hope they put him in general population in prison.

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3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I made a comment to a post about the Frisco stabbing, feels were hurt from there.   

I have started to use the plus quote so I can take a response to the more appropriate thread. 

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42 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So what you are saying that black on white violent crime is extraordinarily uncommon. Great job proving my point. 

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11 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Agree or disagree that in your lifetime, institutionalized racism has ensured that Black families face significantly higher challenges in building generational wealth, obtaining a quality education, and escaping poverty?

In my lifetime, AA have had more rights than any other "underserved" communities.  More than any of the alphabet group, more than any other brown group that crosses a border to get here, etc.   The 25+ years proceeding my birth, I've read they definitely had a rough time. Some of the most intelligent posters on this board are AA (I believe, I don't know them personally) so please miss me with low hanging racist one liners.   Obtaining quality education and escaping poverty doesn't really see skin color.  They dont give out home loans to poor white trailer trash any more than they do poor black/latino/other.   If anything, I'd argue obtaining higher education was actually easier at some points in time. 

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So what you are saying that black on white violent crime is extraordinarily uncommon. Great job proving my point. 

It's roughly double white on black crime, by the percentages.   What point was proven?  

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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

In my lifetime, AA have had more rights than any other "underserved" communities.  More than any of the alphabet group, more than any other brown group that crosses a border to get here, etc.   The 25+ years proceeding my birth, I've read they definitely had a rough time. Some of the most intelligent posters on this board are AA (I believe, I don't know them personally) so please miss me with low hanging racist one liners.   Obtaining quality education and escaping poverty doesn't really see skin color.  They dont give out home loans to poor white trailer trash any more than they do poor black/latino/other.   If anything, I'd argue obtaining higher education was actually easier at some points in time. 

What does your misinformed argument with lack of evidence have to do with a white supremacist little incel loser who shot and killed a bunch of people on a beautiful college campus in Florida, shattering the lives of many people and traumatizing countless others? Get the fuck out of here and jerk off to maga talking points which is the only pussy you’re gonna get

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Just now, usmc0331horn said:

What does your misinformed argument with lack of evidence have to do with a white supremacist little incel loser who shot and killed a bunch of people on a beautiful college campus in Florida, shattering the lives of many people and traumatizing countless others? Get the fuck out of here and jerk off to maga talking points which is the only pussy you’re gonna get

First, I'll let your mom jerk me off, bitch.  Second, if you'd like, we can discuss the shooting at Wilmer-Hutchins if your little titty baby feels can handle it?

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16 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

It's roughly double white on black crime, by the percentages.   What point was proven?  

Um, you talked about “stats [showing] how common black on white violent crime is.”
Your data show that it is extremely uncommon. Was that not your intent? 

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20 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

It's roughly double white on black crime, by the percentages.   What point was proven?  

Let's see if your genius brain can work your way through this.

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The statement quoted above is also pure delusion.

Ok.  I'm not going to die on that hill.  But mid-80's to present hasn't been much of a civil rights struggle for pigment imo.   We've had a black president and vice president in my lifetime, not to mention dozens and dozens of senators, congress critters, and several AA secretary of states.  Pure delusion is hyperbole imo, but you're as welcome to your opinion as I am. 

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19 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Ok.  I'm not going to die on that hill.  But mid-80's to present hasn't been much of a civil rights struggle for pigment imo.   We've had a black president and vice president in my lifetime, not to mention dozens and dozens of senators, congress critters, and several AA secretary of states.  Pure delusion is hyperbole imo, but you're as welcome to your opinion as I am. 

And this right here is why we probably actually needed CRT.  Disregard the fact that the recent successes of some black folk completely fucking broke 40% of the country and disregard the fact that the Philando Castile-type events are still undoubtedly happening and disregard any of a hundred other realities with which minorities still have to deal, and Fatty says, "Hey you got some folks elected and at least you're not getting lynched.  We're all good, right????"  You're not related to John Roberts, are you?

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2 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

And this right here is why we probably actually needed CRT.  Disregard the fact that the recent successes of some black folk completely fucking broke 40% of the country and disregard the fact that the Philando Castile-type events are still undoubtedly happening and disregard any of a hundred other realities with which minorities still have to deal, and Fatty says, "Hey you got some folks elected and at least you're not getting lynched.  We're all good, right????"  You're not related to John Roberts, are you?

I don't know anyone who wasn't happy about CRT.   Without it's push,  we'd probably have a entirely different political landscape right now.   

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6 hours ago, HenryJames said:

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Remember, this is the system working EXACTLY as designed and intended.

The children screaming tells you the freedom is working, but goshdarnit...

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3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I don't know anyone who wasn't happy about CRT.   Without it's push,  we'd probably have a entirely different political landscape right now.   

Politically, it was an absolute loser.  As a country, we would be so much better off if people (ahem ...) weren't so hell-bent on being willfully ignorant of reality.  

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Just now, Gap03 said:

As a country, we would be so much better off if people (ahem ...) weren't so hell-bent on being willfully ignorant of reality.  

We could not possibly agree more.  

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