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4th&Five
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Fuck off. You vote for this shit. Explain that to your kids. 

Pancho
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3rd leg of my move from Houston to the Bay Area, and I made it to LA.   I’m just now catching up on the news in my hotel.  I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again—I don’t have kids, but this e

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WTF world are we living in when people are having a discussion about survival rates of certain rounds? People are being terrorized by gun violence and we're discussing which bullet has worse/better ch

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As to the other sadness, we have decided we see cool with kids dying in schools and then pretending nothing can be done.  We are a decaying society by any obvious stretch.  I still vainly hold on to the notion that due to my age I won’t be around to see the total collapse but I wouldn’t bet on it.  
 

 

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9 hours ago, brakeman said:

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I don't get it, because people have been thinking and praying.  Baby Jesus must be letting this happen for a reason.  He's probably still mad about the fags.  Let's ban gay marriage and butt stuff and see if this stops.  And if not, we'll have to get more guns into the hands of the good guys.

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Patricio Swayze

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I don't get it, because people have been thinking and praying.  Baby Jesus must be letting this happen for a reason.  He's probably still mad about the fags.  Let's ban gay marriage and butt stuff and see if this stops.  And if not, we'll have to get more guns into the hands of the good guys.

That’s a good plan.

However, maybe we just haven’t met God’s quotient for T&P’s? Maybe it’s like 5 million prayers before he can do anything. Don’t blame God, blame the procedure and bureaucracy.
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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So what's the number? When do the gun nuts say "Ok, ok, maybe we have a gun problem in this country". 100 a day? 100 elementary school shootings every day?

They don’t care how many, they will only change if their kids get shot even them they will blame teachers, school, democrats, woke culture etc .

We just lack common good principles as a country and are stuck with Me Me Me, someone think of how it will affect ME

-they don’t care about ppl freezing in homes due to neglect in power lines 

-don’t care about homeless vets who don’t or can’t get treatment (they are pussies to them if they have ptsd)

-kids dying of Covid (I have to wear a mask!!!!)

-pollution prevention (lolz gov overreach)

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6 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

They don’t care how many, they will only change if their kids get shot even them they will blame teachers, school, democrats, woke culture etc .

We just lack common good principles as a country and are stuck with Me Me Me, someone think of how it will affect ME

-they don’t care about ppl freezing in homes due to neglect in power lines 

-don’t care about homeless vets who don’t or can’t get treatment (they are pussies to them if they have ptsd)

-kids dying of Covid (I have to wear a mask!!!!)

-pollution prevention (lolz gov overreach)

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The Rs and their sponsors are pushing Despair,  The gov sucks, nothing can be done about these issues and just accept them. It’s amazing how good the messaging  is working.

the narrative of there is no hope to improve this society in this life and it will get better in afterlife is pretty strong and getting stronger. 

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RomaVicta

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55 minutes ago, Red Five said:

So what's the number? When do the gun nuts say "Ok, ok, maybe we have a gun problem in this country". 100 a day? 100 elementary school shootings every day?

The malefactors in our electorate are argument proof. They've got the dogma down pat. Anyone disagreeing with the dogma is dishonest or worse. More guns is the solution. Every incident like this confirms this. Argument. Proof.

Over in the 2023 recruiting thread, the prospect of a Mississippi player coming here prompted some stories about small town Mississippi schools and then the disaster areas that middle schools anywhere can be where there isn't abundant money.

Everywhere you look there is rot and no consensus about doing anything active about it.

We have a gun problem. Yes, we need more guns to solve it.

We have public school problem, it can impact your kids and the future of the country. It's because the socialists cast out God. It's also the fault of the teachers and their evil unions. Most of all, it's the conspiracy to make white children feel bad about what other, older white people did. So you go do something about it. Whatever it is, we can't throw money at it.

According to all scientists of expertise, the climate is changing in a way that will profoundly and negatively impact your children and future generations. They're lying for money. I'll never give up hamburgers or a gas stove to help my child or any other child. I'm not giving up the big pick-up that I don't need for work either.

tl:dr It's hard to find a place to look that is not fubar. Herschel Walker missed being a US senator by a percentage point. 

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Compliments to @Gengs1 for getting their faster and more concisely.

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I say this with conviction and not hyperbole.  I think the GQP would be happier with 8 hrs of gun "safety" and shooting training for school-aged kids instead of academic coursework.

Furthing their assault on education and critical thinking which given their preference for minority rule is necessary.  Combined with their fetishization of guns.

Their motto should be "Why think, just shoot"

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4 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I say this with conviction and not hyperbole.  I think the GQP would be happier with 8 hrs of gun "safety" and shooting training for school-aged kids instead of academic coursework.

In some states the polling on that would be like 80-20 in favor of the pew pew training. 

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Small irony given all the California shootings: as you enter Yakima, the sign says “Welcome to the Palm Springs of Washington!” The illusion fades quickly though. It becomes immediately obvious that Yakima’s more like Fresno.

 

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

So what's the number? When do the gun nuts say "Ok, ok, maybe we have a gun problem in this country". 100 a day? 100 elementary school shootings every day?

You have it backwards. The more frequently Americans exercise their Second Amendment rights, the better. 100 shootings a day is 100 beautiful daily episodes of freedom and liberty.

The only problem is that, admittedly, mass shootings all seem to be done by Bad Guys With Guns. We need to fix that and the solution damned sure isn’t fewer shootings. What America needs is to double the number of daily shootings, by arming Good Guys With Guns and encouraging them to shoot back. Or maybe even have the Good Guys go on the offensive, identifying and preemptively shooting Bad Guys. Can you imagine how amazingly free and safe our society would be if Americans could determine for themselves who deserves to be shot and then do so without interference from Big Government?

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Jesus, what is happening on Sundays?

  • the Lord rests on that day - evil goes unchecked.

or something like that.

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or I could have gone with..

  • That is odd, you would think there are more thoughts and prayers on Sunday.
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On 1/23/2023 at 5:39 PM, henrygandorf said:

it will be reality, eventually.  it's the only way out of this. 

won't be in our lifetimes, but it will happen.

so @fattyflattie i noticed you dropped a laugh rep on this.

is the notion of no more guns that outrageous and hilarious to you?  do you think there will still be mass shootings in 100 years?  500 years?  1000 years?  i'm curious to hear your take.

in the history of modern civilization, when something has been overly harmful to humans, changes have been made.  all up until now.  do you think guns will be the inflection point in that pattern?  are they that necessary at the current/future point in human evolution?

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3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

so @fattyflattie i noticed you dropped a laugh rep on this.

is the notion of no more guns that outrageous and hilarious to you?  do you think there will still be mass shootings in 100 years?  500 years?  1000 years?  i'm curious to hear your take.

in the history of modern civilization, when something has been overly harmful to humans, changes have been made.  all up until now.  do you think guns will be the inflection point in that pattern?  are they that necessary at the current/future point in human evolution?

Imagine how confused people will be hundreds of years from now. "So they had 400 million guns, and were confused as to why there were so many gun deaths?"

"Guess so."

"What did they do to help the problem?"

"Nothing, apparently."

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6 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

so @fattyflattie i noticed you dropped a laugh rep on this.

is the notion of no more guns that outrageous and hilarious to you?  do you think there will still be mass shootings in 100 years?  500 years?  1000 years?  i'm curious to hear your take.

in the history of modern civilization, when something has been overly harmful to humans, changes have been made.  all up until now.  do you think guns will be the inflection point in that pattern?  are they that necessary at the current/future point in human evolution?

Are you expecting a real discussion? Yesterday in DT he told everyone that he usually goes weeks without seeing a pedestrian in his area and then in the very next post claimed that his kids and the neighbor kids are outside running around his hood every day. 

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31 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

so @fattyflattie i noticed you dropped a laugh rep on this.

is the notion of no more guns that outrageous and hilarious to you?  do you think there will still be mass shootings in 100 years?  500 years?  1000 years?  i'm curious to hear your take.

in the history of modern civilization, when something has been overly harmful to humans, changes have been made.  all up until now.  do you think guns will be the inflection point in that pattern?  are they that necessary at the current/future point in human evolution?

Yes to every one of your questions.  Of the five (4 if you use the definition listed in the same article that then goes thru five shootings) two, and potentially a third, appear to be gang related.  Then a workplace violence, then some older  nut case.   Gangs are going to exist into perpetuity, and they are going to shoot each other. They made up between 40 and 60% of the headlines this week for mass shootings, per than CNN article.  
 

I think weapons such as the AR will go away, or be taxed to where only a select few will find it worth it.  But the two examples in Cali, both committed with weapons that are in nightstands all across the country.  Simple arms that span racial divides, political divides, age divides, hell even divides on thoughts on gun ownership.  There’s probably more people that own one single arm, just like the ones used in those two attacks, than people with multiple arms.  I don’t think you’ll be able to convince every day America to give up their single arm.  
 

We are surrounded by things that are “overly harmful to humans”, and sometimes we make “changes”. Are you under the impression we’ve never made changes to our gun laws? 

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35 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Are you expecting a real discussion? Yesterday in DT he told everyone that he usually goes weeks without seeing a pedestrian in his area and then in the very next post claimed that his kids and the neighbor kids are outside running around his hood every day. 

Ah yes. The guy who adequately can’t see out the front of his pickup.  Let’s redesign work vehicles for pedestrian safety!!1!  Serious discussion indeed.  
 

Good luck with your venture there, as well. I’m sure it’ll be just as successful and this one.  They absolutely seem to be tending your way!!

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16 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I think weapons such as the AR will go away, or be taxed to where only a select few will find it worth it.  But the two examples in Cali, both committed with weapons that are in nightstands all across the country.  Simple arms that span racial divides, political divides, age divides, hell even divides on thoughts on gun ownership.  There’s probably more people that own one single arm, just like the ones used in those two attacks, than people with multiple arms.  I don’t think you’ll be able to convince every day America to give up their single arm.  

yeah, when it happens, it won't be up to them.  the fact that it spans the divides makes it more likely to happen, not less likely.

17 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

We are surrounded by things that are “overly harmful to humans”, and sometimes we make “changes”. Are you under the impression we’ve never made changes to our gun laws? 

more often than not, we've made significant changes that have greatly reduced the threat.  feel free to point out examples i've missed.  and try to keep the law in mind.  i know butter is really bad for you, but you can't misuse and accidentally kill another person and go to prison for it.

as for the gun laws, feel free to point out significant ~recent ones that can't or haven't already been reversed.  have these laws made a difference in gun-related deaths?  educate me, i'm here to learn.

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@fattyflattie laughs often at ideas that make him uncomfortable. He admits he is not too smart; certainly he seems incapable of holding too contrary thoughts in mind at the same time. An example would be that the gun problem is hopeless and also that we must do whatever possible to solve the gun problem. He goes with the former idea, because he is too cowardly to embrace the latter.

And, of course, he is not alone. Writ large, that cowardice is truly a both sides issue. Yes, I speak of the obscenely bloated military budget. But that is a discussion for another thread.

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28 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

yeah, when it happens, it won't be up to them.  the fact that it spans the divides makes it more likely to happen, not less likely.

I think we read this differently. There’s an argument to be made about the popularity or need of some types of arms.  There are 10’s of millions of people that don’t care for an AR, but do not oppose someone’s right to have a 9mm in their bedside safe.   So, no, I do not believe you are likely to rid of all firearms anytime soon, if ever. 
 

23 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

@fattyflattie laughs often at ideas that make him uncomfortable

I’m not uncomfortable with any of it, other than the actual killing.  I have been more so in the past, but I look at the year over year trend in firearm sales for first time buyers, see the demographics, and it looks a lot different than this board would prefer.  I can afford the additional fees, taxes, licensing, insurance, whatever comes in the future. You have to make the decision if it’s important to you that the people who can’t, should have the right to defend themselves. 
 

 

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