Succession -- HBO

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

I feel like it was hinted at, but only now that it's in the open.

The show is absolutely juvenile and unrealistic.  It's silly.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

The show is definitely a comedy and it's fucking hilarious.  

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

13 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

The show is definitely a comedy and it's fucking hilarious.  

 

This. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

16 hours ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I think it's hilarious.  Tons of examples of pure comedy to me.  Here are just a few I thought of:

Shiv saying she's not declining, she's just not "clining."

Kendall telling Frank "Get your hard-on out of my soup."

Ronan saying during the proxy fight that "I can promise you that I am spiritually and emotionally and ethically and morally behind whoever wins."

Kendall saying his dad's speech could be "Drool.  Antisemitism.  A string of silk handkerchiefs."

Tom telling Greg "Of course you can trust me! To a point!"

Greg selectively shredding the cruise docs while saying "This saves the day" and "The other goes away." 

Ronan as the turkey in the amusement park telling the couple that they obviously don't have sex.

Then there's the running gags, like that Tom snowballs with a girl and brags about at his bachelor party, then Ronan starts dating the girl to spite him.  But he can't have sex with her - he can only get off to the general counsel telling him he's a piece of shit.  Or Connor the idiot spending millions on a presidential run while he lives with a callgirl and roleplays the Napoleonic Wars.  Or Tom in general.

All of this.

The show is certainly more drama-centric, but it's also quite hilarious when it wants to be.

The show is really hitting its stride right now.  It's so good.

P.S. The actor who plays Tom is absolutely killing it this season. I expect that dude will start showing up in stuff all over the place because he's fantastic.

[kingkoopa6 8377]

lmao.

I hate and love Tom.

did some googling... dude played Athos in 3 musketeers

and shit, i didn't know he played Uhtreds dad on the last kingdom ( although only lasted an episode)

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by kingkoopa6

[Jimbaround 975]

He also played Mr. Wilcox on the Howard’s End mini series.

[Queen Bitch 1692]

Tom being in the fake panic room was amazing and hilarious.  EXECUTIVES COMING THROUGH!!

[billfromlaketravis 11522]

The Roman-Gerri angle is deeply disturbing. 

[AustinHorn 57]

Too bad, Shivver. 

[Vito Andolini 9127]

I haven’t watched the latest ep yet, but count me in the group that recognizes this as a comedy/business intrigue/family drama.hybrid, and they’ve never tried to mask it as anything else. I think it’s one of the most consistently laugh producing series on the tube. Greg and Tom are a fucking comic treasure as a duo. 

Vulture has a nice piece on the comedy aspect.

https://www.vulture.com/2019/08/is-succession-a-comedy.html

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The baseline comedic feature of Succession is the simplest one. It is funny. It is peppered with jokes and absurdities, everything from the Vaulter headlines, to the Roy family insults, to the conceit of Cousin Greg’s presence in the show at all. Succession is often funny in the way slapstick can be funny, a humor that relies on the primal Schadenfreude of watching someone else get hurt, even if the pain in this case is nearly always psychic rather than physical. But it’s also funny in the way of satire, a more puncturing, slicing kind of humor. This is the humor of Cousin Greg asking, with concern, whether a news network should maybe not lie, and then being told to “man the fuck up” because this is not “fucking Charles Dickens world.” It’s the humor of Kendall announcing that Vaulter’s only profitable sections are “food and weed,” which is why they’ve each been assigned an editor and five interns. It stings, but it also earns a snorting laugh.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Shiv shit the bed figuratively and Kendall shit the bed literally tonight.

And I watched those Gerri/Roman shenanigans through my fingers.

[Haphap 742]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Shiv shit the bed figuratively and Kendall shit the bed literally tonight.

And I watched those Gerri/Roman shenanigans through my fingers.

The daggers that the maid was shooting to Kendall as she was taking out the presumably dirty bed sheets was hilarious

Edited September 9, 2019 by Haphap

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

10 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Shiv shit the bed figuratively and Kendall shit the bed literally tonight.

And I watched those Gerri/Roman shenanigans through my fingers.

 

Shiv over played her hand and clearly pissed off her dad. As for the Gerri/Roman stuff I don't have a problem with it but they need to be careful as they are tiptoeing the line. 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

The cook lurking in the background as Nan served the dinner cracked my shit up, as did Nan encouraging her to have a drink and treat herself.   

[Pig Bellmont 8723]

Really surprised at how shitty at the game and insecure Shiv has been this season. After watching her broker a deal with her Senator and dad on her wedding to save her husband and position her boss for the general election, she’s just fucked up everything she’s touched.

How hard is it not to insult someone at that cocktail party after you’re told how important it is?  Play your dad’s game. She didn’t and now she (and Tom) are likely proper fucked.  

Oh and the Roman + Jerri stuff is super creepy and disturbing 

[TwiceHorn 31529]

Unpopular opinion:  I don't like Shiv.  She's smug and arrogant.  So I am enjoying watching her eat a ration of shit.

Also, while she is striking of face, there's a hefty chonk about to splode out that gal.

Edited September 16, 2019 by TwiceHorn

[babysdaddy 2728]

Unpopular opinion:  I don't like Shiv.  She's smug and arrogant.  So I am enjoying watching her eat a ration of shit.
Also, while she is striking of face, there's a hefty chonk about to splode out that gal.

Rewound during that walk of hers to point out her fucking giant ass to my wife. It didn’t look real

[TwiceHorn 31529]

2 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

Rewound during that walk of hers to point out her fucking giant ass to my wife. It didn’t look real

They've been hiding it well, but white girls dont have asses like that without being chonkers.  If anyone does.

[A-Tex Devil 2461]

After the “We hear.... for you” talk, Loved the monitor saying “We here for you.”

[TwiceHorn 31529]

The debate about whether this is a comedy set me to thinking (what the hell is Goofy?).

It's whatever the Big Short was, without the benefit of real-life events and characters.  Comedy superimposed on srs bidness.  Everyone seems to think that big business is serious and intellectual and it is frequently anything but.

That it's a family-owned business with all the pathology that the children of the very rich (among others) exhibit, make fertile ground.

Dramedy doesn't seem to be a sufficient term.

[kingkoopa6 8377]

On 9/15/2019 at 8:05 PM, babysdaddy said:

Rewound during that walk of hers to point out her fucking giant ass to my wife. It didn’t look real

Super donk 

[bamachine 1231]

SHe does have a big ol booty but that outfit she was wearing made it look even bigger.

[Incredulity 11682]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The debate about whether this is a comedy set me to thinking (what the hell is Goofy?).

It's whatever the Big Short was, without the benefit of real-life events and characters.  Comedy superimposed on srs bidness.  Everyone seems to think that big business is serious and intellectual and it is frequently anything but.

That it's a family-owned business with all the pathology that the children of the very rich (among others) exhibit, make fertile ground.

Dramedy doesn't seem to be a sufficient term.

It’s a voyeuristic parody of Fox News and Murdoch family.

Everyone wants to imagine they could be the one riding in the helicopter, that they are so fucked up makes it almost possible.

 “Hey, they’re just like me and my brothers.”

[Vito Andolini 9127]

Two episodes ago, after meeting with the Pierces, Tom remarked something like, “What a weird family!” Might have been strange or odd, but the subtext was obvious. The Roys have everyone topped on the weird/strange/odd scale.

And I’ve felt this way since perhaps the first episode, but I’m 100% certain that when the final episode of this series airs, the person sitting at the top of the Succession won’t be Shiv, Kendall, Roman, Tom etc., but will be Greg “Call me Gregory” Hirsch.

[Aqua Buddha 14600]

On 9/15/2019 at 10:05 PM, babysdaddy said:

Rewound during that walk of hers to point out her fucking giant ass to my wife. It didn’t look real

Also has man hands.

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

Still would. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

Man I love this show.

Would also really love a spin-off 30-minute sitcom of just Tom and Greg Gregory getting into wacky corporate adventures.

[lateshow 1305]

12 hours ago, bamachine said:

SHe does have a big ol booty but that outfit she was wearing made it look even bigger.

Huge tittays too. 

[Aqua Buddha 14600]

12 hours ago, Incredulity said:

It’s a voyeuristic parody of Fox News and Murdoch family.

Everyone wants to imagine they could be the one riding in the helicopter, that they are so fucked up makes it almost possible.

 “Hey, they’re just like me and my brothers.”

There's a Sumner Redstone angle going on, too.

[NOMAAA 1696]

1 hour ago, lateshow said:

Huge tittays too. 

is this comedy?

[lateshow 1305]

13 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

is this comedy?

ginger comedy

[Nice Guy Eddie 13521]

As much as they all seem to push each other to the side to get their fathers approval, they almost all seemed oblivious as to how much their father wants the acquisition. 

And I agree that if the series continues much longer, Gregory will start to move up. 

[Guest Lobo]

Have there been any indications that I've missed over the last 1.5 seasons about the ages of the children?  There was an obvious reference to Logan turning 80, so we can assume he's about 81.  Connor is 63 in real life, but let's assume he's supposed to be about 55 on the show...Logan having him around 25 when he was just getting going which is reasonable.  Rest of the kids make sense, Kendall in late 30's, Roman in mid 30's, Shiv in early 30's.  Making the gap between his first and second marriages rather long.  And him being a slightly older father during the second brood.  Just curious as it mirrors and matches (and sometimes does neither) real life tycoon ballads.  

Show really went from a high production value summer stopgap to being the best show on television, IMO, rather quickly.  

[billfromlaketravis 11522]

If you didn't spill your drink on "c*** struck" you're not doing it right. 

Wow. What a line. Apparently we're in a Simon and Garfunkel song. 

Tom and Craig is the best buddy cop duo since MIdnight Run, 

Edited September 23, 2019 by billfromlaketravis

[Bama Chick 28596]

Well Rhea is coming for all their wigs.

It’ll be nice to see the kids united together - with Marcia too maybe - against a common enemy instead of working against each other for once.

And when Kendall finally snaps, it’s going to be ugly ugly.

[A-Tex Devil 2461]

When Logan talked to Rhea at end about getting the noose from around his neck was that about the proxy fight?

Or was it that his and Rhea’s scheme worked re: tricking Shiv into throwing in with Pierce’s and allowing him to back off her as heir?  

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

The second one.

And Rhea played her like a fiddle.

Throwing Shiv completely off guard by acting like she was seeking her approval to fuck her dad so her offer of help RE the Pierce CEO job just seemed like her trying to get in good with her lover’s kids.

Shiv thought Rhea was angling for Marcia’s job - the wife. Not realizing she’s after much a bigger job - Logan’s.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13521]

Greg(ory) might be able to get by blackmailing Tom since Tom is always in a relatively weak position but I can't wait to see him try it with someone else.

and I guess it was good for the story, but I don't think Shiv would have immediately gone with an idea to seek a job with a competing company.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Shiv didn’t - she got set up.

Rhea made the offer and Shiv hesitated and ended the conversation with “let me think about it”.

Rhea floated the idea to The Pierces and probably leaked it to competing media. Nan took the opportunity to crow about it to rub it Logan’s face.

Logan - who knew what Rhea was up to - used Shiv’s “disloyalty” and possible collaboration with the enemy as the reason to cut the strings on his promises to her about her being the successor.

Shiv didn’t do anything but have lunch with Rhea and listen to her pitch.

Shiv got played. Hard.

[jimmyjazz 46093]

Shiv didn't get played, she got fucked.  She didn't agree to sit for the Pierce job -- she was intrigued and maybe flattered but hardly gave Rhea her blessing. 

Logan knew what Rhea was doing and was happy to use the deception to pull back the CEO job.  I was surprised Shiv didn't at least fight back a bit.  She'll probably come after her Dad now.

[TwiceHorn 31529]

The other weird thing about the Shiv/Pierce/Rhea thing is why does Logan need some excuse to turn her out?  He doesn't seem to have problems being arbitrary with anyone else

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah he is terribly degrading to old friends and extended family, lords over his sons with every type of deception, And commits numerous Felonies and immoral corporate behavior on a regular basis.....but yeah, telling shiv to wait a few more years is just beyond the pale for him.  

[bamachine 1231]

I think it is more about others knowing he tapped her to be the successor. He wanted it squashed from everyone's POV. Especially after it starting off as Kendall and then backtracking. I think he is trying to not look indecisive.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yep it had nothing to do with Shiv’s feelings, it was all about him not looking wishy washy.

And Shiv, Kendall, and Roman are definitely gonna team up and fuck up Rhea, with an assist from Marcia.

Whether Logan ends up as collateral damage remains to be seen.

And remember the subtext of Kendall’s warning to Logan about “looking like the old foolish man” - that’s going to be foreshadowing. But it won’t be Rhea that does that to him directly - it’ll be his own damn kids.

[TwiceHorn 31529]

But who knew she was tapped?  No one except Shiv and Logan.  If it was well-known that she was tapped, why would Pierce have tried to make it a condition?  It would have been "accelerate the change of power," not make Shiv CEO.

It's not that big a deal, just an inconsistency.

Also, how pathological was the Logan/Romulus scene?  "Because I would never do that."  

[bamachine 1231]

Shiv came right out and declared it in the dinner with the Pierces. Logan did not deny it, so that is the same as admitting it.

[jimmyjazz 46093]

Roman has been snarking about her ascendancy for a couple of episodes.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yeah Shiv’s meltdown at the Pierce dinner ended any secrecy.

“For fucks sake Dad, just tell them it’s me.”

And once Nan Pierce told Logan to fuck off, no way that hot little piece of gossip wasn’t getting pulled out by every person in that room at every Manhattan cocktail party and Hamptons clambake.

“And then the loud daughter just up and declared she was taking over; much to the shock of everyone named Roy! And then her father didn’t back her up! It was a disaster! And considering how he undercut the oldest son when he was tapped as the heir, Logan Roy cannot seem to make up his mind. And not for nothing, I get the feeling he doesn’t even like his kids!”

And at least one of those guests - Nan herself most likely - would likely call a friend of a friend of Stewie or Sandy and the story ends up as a very obvious blind item in Sandy’s tabloid.

Just like the “Logan Roy Bullied A Poor Waiter To His DEATH!!!” story did.

Which, incidentally, is probably exactly what Rhea did with the “Shiv Roy Is A Candidate For The Pierce Media CEO Job” story.

Y’all are thinking too much like regular men.

My history with Deep South sorority and Junior League politics have served me well.

[Guest Lobo]

^

So when then, in your deep south junior league estimation, is one of her brothers gonna fuck Shiv?  

[NOMAAA 1696]

shiv's ass is getting bigger every episode.  just an observation.