Succession -- HBO

[Tylerocks 2553]

The compliment tunnel: "You're doing great"

The simultaneous "Thank you" from Greg and "Fuck off" from Tom was perfect.

 

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10 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

this show has had so many pivotal bathroom scenes. 

I'm surprised that Roman didn't offer to hold it for Mattson. 

[Texas St. Armadillos 1381]

I assume Roman left his phone in the urinal, but when he leaves the party he's on the street calling Logan.  

I guess he had another one in the car, or borrowed the driver's phone, but I thought it was a small continuation mistake.

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On 11/29/2021 at 2:32 PM, TexasBeta said:

I’m rooting for Shiv to show us her boobs. ?
Team Shiv.


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On 11/29/2021 at 3:22 PM, oSuJeff97 said:

Saaaaaaamee.... And dat ass.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

On 11/29/2021 at 9:40 AM, oSuJeff97 said:

You've been rooting for Kendall? 

Seems like the whole point of the show is that they are all pieces of shit, except for maybe Tom and Greg... they are the only two that have shown any kind of moral compass, but even they will sort of be dicks when it suits their needs.

Except Greg is sort of a leech, exactly what Kendall called him (which was needlessly cruel).  Tom is just an insecure loser who won the devil's lottery with Shiv.  I think the whole point of the show is the world would be a better place without anyone in the show.  Not one single person other than maybe Gerri (and she's really just a shameless yes woman) is really a productive or even fun person.  They're all miserable pricks without many redeeming moments, let alone qualities.  Someone said up thread that the show is getting a little old with all the characters just shitting on each other and I sort of agree.  The preposterousness of Kendall and his birthday party as he's having an emotional breakdown in the midst of a middle age crisis was fascinating and even amusing to degrees.  But the venom and acidic nature of the kids is getting tiresome.  Sort of agree that Shiv should white knight with Kendall so they even out the odds and give a proper push-pull to the paradigm.  

[henrygandorf 29189]

i was rooting for kendall at the end of s2.

this season has had interesting moments but no, um, what’s the word, story. 

it’s basically following the beats of a reality show. everyone get drunk and fight while the audience watches. 

[RexWilson 1346]

I cant remember, how did Sandy end up as a vegetable in a wheelchair?

[oSuJeff97 3435]

14 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Except Greg is sort of a leech, exactly what Kendall called him (which was needlessly cruel).  Tom is just an insecure loser who won the devil's lottery with Shiv.  I think the whole point of the show is the world would be a better place without anyone in the show.  Not one single person other than maybe Gerri (and she's really just a shameless yes woman) is really a productive or even fun person.  They're all miserable pricks without many redeeming moments, let alone qualities.  Someone said up thread that the show is getting a little old with all the characters just shitting on each other and I sort of agree.  The preposterousness of Kendall and his birthday party as he's having an emotional breakdown in the midst of a middle age crisis was fascinating and even amusing to degrees.  But the venom and acidic nature of the kids is getting tiresome.  Sort of agree that Shiv should white knight with Kendall so they even out the odds and give a proper push-pull to the paradigm.  

I said this earlier in the thread, but how is Greg any more of a "leech" than Ken, Roman or Shiv? It's not like he's an "outsider." He's a direct relative. He's Logan's nephew. What's the difference? They are ALL using their position as a member of Logan's direct family to their advantage. Would ANY of them have the positions they have if not for Logan? Fuck no.

I'm not sure I'd call Tom a "loser." He is obviously very insecure, but I think what the show has revealed about Tom is that he always THOUGHT he was the type of person who could succeed given access to the Roy family; but what he's discovering is that, unlike pretty much everyone in the Roy family, he actually has a moral compass that is creating massive cognitive dissonance as he tries to navigate life/work in the family. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by oSuJeff97

[henrygandorf 29189]

46 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

I said this earlier in the thread, but how is Greg any more of a "leech" than Ken, Roman or Shiv? It's not like he's an "outsider." He's a direct relative. He's Logan's nephew. What's the difference? They are ALL using their position as a member of Logan's direct family to their advantage. Would ANY of them have the positions they have if not for Logan? Fuck no.

not a huge difference, but he’s a great nephew (his grandfather is logan’s brother and they hate each other). a little different than being one of logan’s children, especially in a family business/inheritance scenario. 

[Sleep off ugly 279]

19 hours ago, RexWilson said:

I cant remember, how did Sandy end up as a vegetable in a wheelchair?

The rumor is syphilis but the Roy clan doesn’t remember if they made it up.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Sleep off ugly

[BrazilHorn 6586]

I don't really see what a season 4 does here. The show is great but it kind of seems like it is running its course. As noted above pretty much everyone is a toxic, awful person.

Big cliffhanger could be if somehow the DOJ reverses course and indicts/sentences Logan at end of Season 3 and then Season 4 could be all about how the kids try and battle over the company with Skaarsgard's character ending up in charge buying all of them out at the end of the run.

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8 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I don't really see what a season 4 does here. The show is great but it kind of seems like it is running its course. As noted above pretty much everyone is a toxic, awful person.

Big cliffhanger could be if somehow the DOJ reverses course and indicts/sentences Logan at end of Season 3 and then Season 4 could be all about how the kids try and battle over the company with Skaarsgard's character ending up in charge buying all of them out at the end of the run.

I agree. It's become very repetitive. I still watch and enjoy, Greg and Tom are the best part; but something, anything, needs to happen. 

[henrygandorf 29189]

still confused why it’s still everyone vs kendall 7/9ths thru the season. people switching sides, double-agents, sabotage, would’ve been great tv.

instead it’s watching ken falling down the stairs in slow motion and an overall lesson that wealthy people never get in real legal trouble. 

shit use of 2 good guest stars too.  is logan really talking about pierce again?  gtfo. 

[Planet Houston 4930]

Agree that the big picture plot seems to plod and get a bit competitive (the backing of a fascist episode was a “nice” “break” from that) but the writing is so fucking good every episode that I could not care less. I fucking love this show. 

[Planet Houston 4930]

Also, at its core, Succession is a comedy (I think you have to think of it this way to truly enjoy it how Armstrong, McKay and Ferrell intend it to be). The cycle of the same shit that the kids go through to be loved by a monster who could not care less about them emotionally is part of the schtick and adds to the absurdity that is Succession. It’s the shitshow at the fuck factory.  

[mr. sunshine 2824]

Shiv’s titty and booty show. Gotdamn 

[billfromlaketravis 11456]

Shiv and Tom f***ing with Greg is peak Succession. Awesome. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4739]

To me this was one of the best episodes Of the series. Couldn’t look away. Great distraction from Ewers-gate.

[TwiceHorn 31449]

On 11/23/2021 at 6:17 PM, RomaVicta said:

Roman mocking Ken

And I love my children, Blur Face and Who Cares.

I laughed again typing that. 

We've just caught up to this season. Lovely partial binge in the last week. Roman is an immortal character. They even gave him heart regarding his father's health and Shiv's letter about Ken. 

Shiv: It's accurate.

Roman: In a Lee Harvey Oswald sort of way.

I paraphrase, but the dialogue in this show is scrumptious.

If you've never seen Igby Goes Down, Roman is adult Igby, and not just because Rory Culkin. A film by Flock of Seagulls of Pulp Fiction fame.

[Guest Lobo]

That was a great little film.  Features a young Lane Pryce from Mad Men.  Culkin steals the film from great actors like Jeff Goldblum.  

Now then, back to Shiv's ass.

[Ted Lange 16084]

So is Ken dead? 

[GTX Horn 1708]

You know it’s great when Connor trying to propose to Willa or Greg trying to flirt isn’t even close to the most cringy moment of the episode. Roman was bound to fuckup eventually but damn

[RomaVicta 29905]

43 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

So is Ken dead? 

Uh...well...uh...it's like this...I'm greater than death, but...uh, well, um...death is really tough. Tough...yea...uh, where's Blurface?

[bolverk 29660]

48 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

You know it’s great when Connor trying to propose to Willa or Greg trying to flirt isn’t even close to the most cringy moment of the episode. Roman was bound to fuckup eventually but damn

[bolverk 29660]

58 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

So is Ken dead? 

Doubtful, but someone mentioned on reddit that they noticed an orange on the table by the pool, which is a Hollywood trope going back to the Godfather that signals someone is about to die.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

The Logan/Ken dinner scene was incredible.

[hornian 5212]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

So is Ken dead? 

That’s what they want you to think. 
 

but I think he’s just seeing how long the waiter held his breath before giving up. Just like Logan said at dinner. 

[hornian 5212]

Also, why would Logan go to his ex wife’s wedding, even if she invited him?

 

Anyway; someone on Reddit screencapped Roman’s phone wallpaper:

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by hornian

[F250 28767]

3 hours ago, mr. sunshine said:

Shiv’s titty and booty show. Gotdamn 

The main reason I watch this show.

 

[henrygandorf 29189]

my tastes must be alternative now. no thanks. 

[mchookem 16327]

jfc that was just one awkward and tense conversation after another!

"the date ladder" was so Costanza dating the supermodel 😄

 

and of course Roman fucked up with a dick pic.

i've said it elsewhere, but PSA: no woman ever wants a dick pic. if she says she does it's just bc she knows you want to send it. 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

Also, why would Logan go to his ex wife’s wedding, even if she invited him?

Didn’t want to think too hard about this, but also why would Logan’s brother’s grandson be invited?

[billfromlaketravis 11456]

10 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

So is Ken dead? 

Seems to be the consensus online. 

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

22 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Seems to be the consensus online. 

I don't think there's any chance.  I'm honestly surprised people are seriously considering the possibility.

[billfromlaketravis 11456]

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I don't think there's any chance.  I'm honestly surprised people are seriously considering the possibility.

I'm listening to The Ringer podcast The Watch right now. They make a compelling case both ways. 

[Gene Parmesan 4005]

8 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I don't think there's any chance.  I'm honestly surprised people are seriously considering the possibility.

I'm in this boat.  It didn't even cross my mind.  Not that that means anything.  I do think his death is coming though.

[Ted Lange 16084]

12 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I'm listening to The Ringer podcast The Watch right now. They make a compelling case both ways. 

Did the same, I didn’t think there was anyway, but like you said they make a really strong argument for it.  

Edited December 6, 2021 by Ted Lange

[henrygandorf 29189]

no chance unless the series was over after s3. which it’s not. his arc is all fucked. 

[Ted Lange 16084]

14 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

no chance unless the series was over after s3. which it’s not. his arc is all fucked. 

That’s one of the reasons they point to for his death.  Where does his character go from here?

[billfromlaketravis 11456]

I think Kendall is alive. I don't think he was trying to drown himself. He just seems like a dude that is sad/tired, had some beers, and is just screwing around in the pool. 

[henrygandorf 29189]

i think he’s ~punishing himself by putting himself in the position of the waiter who drowned. my guess is he’ll almost die which will shake up the family dynamic right when logan is losing faith in the others. 

of course that would mean “something” would happen, instead of the “nothing” that we’ve seen all season. 

[Ted Lange 16084]

I think he is alive as well, I sure hope so.  Not sure where they show goes with him out.

Also, Logan using Kendall's son to make sure it wasnt poisoned.... savage.

[mchookem 16327]

yeah it didn't even occur to me that he might be dead until i clicked this thread. 

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10 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

my tastes must be alternative now. no thanks. 

Same. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

Yeah I don't think Ken is dead.

It wouldn't surprise me if he died at *some point* in the show, but an ambiguous death scene in the penultimate episode of season 3 doesn't feel like something this show would do. 

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11 hours ago, hornian said:

Also, why would Logan go to his ex wife’s wedding, even if she invited him?

 

Anyway; someone on Reddit screencapped Roman’s phone wallpaper:

 

Nothing unusual about a guy having a picture of his sister as his wallpaper. I guess her being in a sultry pose while wearing a tight dress with her boobs pushed out might be a little incesty. LOL

 

 

[SizzleChest 8283]

13 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah I don't think Ken is dead.

It wouldn't surprise me if he died at *some point* in the show, but an ambiguous death scene in the penultimate episode of season 3 doesn't feel like something this show would do. 

If their S3 cliffhanger is 1) GoJo deal going tits up, 2) Nan Pierce croaking or getting mauled by a bear or something, and 3) Naomi and Kendall orchestrate a Waystar - PGM merger, I'll probably throw up.

[LonghornSean 3994]

6 minutes ago, F250 said:

Nothing unusual about a guy having a picture of his sister as his wallpaper. I guess her being in a sultry pose while wearing a tight dress with her boobs pushed out might be a little incesty. LOL

 

 

Well he's also giving her the finger, but yeah he has some serious incestuous tendencies.

[NOMAAA 1696]

shes his sexy secretary when hes running the show.  he said so.

[mchookem 16327]

i mean being kinda incesty is probably the most normal of Roman's sexual proclivities.