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Teachers are literally being fired for reading from a book that is one of the most recognized elements of most curricula for well over a half century.

GQP stalwarts like Fatty are telling you functionally "whatever, overreacting, it's not even happening."  

That's good old gaslighting, folks.  Which is a lie.

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Romeo and Juliet was pulled for challenge here in Keller. I mean if you want to do some dumb shit like challenge Shakespeare at least go after the one where the main character’s father is killed by his uncle who then fucks and marries his mother whilst the main character contemplates his existence and should he just kill himself while actually driving his girlfriend to do it.

I think back to how turbofucked my 9th (or was it 8th) grade English teacher would be now. We read it and then watched it…the Zeffirelli version. That was a special day.

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If you have the means to do so and want your children to receive a better education get you and your family to a place not run by people that openly advocate how wonderful charter schools are (New York has a lot of these people as evidenced by the 1000 charter schools/child profit centers here) and find somewhere that doesn’t ban books as well.
 

That we are in 2023 living with people who have more in common with the folks running the Salem Witch Trials than modern methods of effective education is astounding. The fighting you will encounter with these people is just not worth it. Take your family to a place where education matters. Not everyone obviously has the monetary means to do this, but if you do then go for it and make sure you either get your son or daughter in a public school or pay for a private school education  if you have the means for that or prefer that. 

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Right-wing influencer Jordan Peterson announced in a recent podcast episode alongside his daughter that he is launching an online university without accreditation.

The venture labeled “Peterson Academy” is an “online education platform…utilizing a revolutionary learning app and coupling it with professionally produced content, we aim to make education both affordable and useful,” according to the program’s YouTube page. The former psychology professor vowed the program would be 95% less expensive than a typical university.


While touting the benefits of joining the online course, Peterson noted that once all the courses are ready to go then his potential students will be able to take them so they “won’t be a complete embarrassment” to themselves.  Peterson also predicted the skills provided in the program will help student interact with “sophisticated people.”

“You need to be enculturated so that you can play with sophisticated people and you could play a sophisticated and productive game, but also so that you’ve informed yourself with the greatest ideas of history so that whatever problem you’re tackling, you’re going to have tools to tackle it with,” Peterson said.

“A degree from our university will signify high level conscientiousness and general cognitive ability, and those are very valuable for any employer with a clue,” he continued. “So I think we can just skip the rotation process and go right to the employers.”
Mikhaila Peterson claimed the full program will not be available until November and it will “change the education system….that’s funny, it’s weird.”

“Up yours woke moralists. We’ll see who cancels who. That sort of funny?” Peterson joked backed to his daughter.

 

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Huh so it turns out most of these challenges to books across the nation are mainly from a small handful of karens

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/28/virginia-frequent-school-book-challenger-spotsylvania/

But thanks to very fine people INSISTING that this couldn't be happening all over the country, these sorts of intellectual arsonists have all the room they need to pull books off of shelves and censor anything that isn't white puritanical schlock

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Huh so it turns out most of these challenges to books across the nation are mainly from a small handful of karens

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/28/virginia-frequent-school-book-challenger-spotsylvania/

But thanks to very fine people INSISTING that this couldn't be happening all over the country, these sorts of intellectual arsonists have all the room they need to pull books off of shelves and censor anything that isn't white puritanical schlock

There's one group behind all of the anti-porn legislation (trying to make people identify themselves online to look at porn).

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Huh so it turns out most of these challenges to books across the nation are mainly from a small handful of karens
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/28/virginia-frequent-school-book-challenger-spotsylvania/
But thanks to very fine people INSISTING that this couldn't be happening all over the country, these sorts of intellectual arsonists have all the room they need to pull books off of shelves and censor anything that isn't white puritanical schlock

The first statement that should be required by every speaker at a school board meeting is whether or not they have kids attending the school district.
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The first statement that should be required by every speaker at a school board meeting is whether or not they have kids attending the school district.

I would tweak that a bit to say “your relationship to the district”. My kids are recently out of school and I have a wife teaching in the district, so I’ve seen a lot of what is right and wrong, but I no longer have kids in the district.

But generally, I like your idea…
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I would tweak that a bit to say “your relationship to the district”. My kids are recently out of school and I have a wife teaching in the district, so I’ve seen a lot of what is right and wrong, but I no longer have kids in the district.

But generally, I like your idea…

Do you have kids in the district, do you live in the district, do you work for the district.  That'll work.

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On 9/26/2023 at 5:09 PM, UpperWestside said:

If you have the means to do so and want your children to receive a better education get you and your family to a place not run by people that openly advocate how wonderful charter schools are (New York has a lot of these people as evidenced by the 1000 charter schools/child profit centers here) and find somewhere that doesn’t ban books as well.
 

That we are in 2023 living with people who have more in common with the folks running the Salem Witch Trials than modern methods of effective education is astounding. The fighting you will encounter with these people is just not worth it. Take your family to a place where education matters. Not everyone obviously has the monetary means to do this, but if you do then go for it and make sure you either get your son or daughter in a public school or pay for a private school education  if you have the means for that or prefer that. 

I'm a straight, white, upper-middle class, property-owning male. I always figured that I need to use all those privileges to stay and keep voting for sanity. But I also have two school-aged kids. The all-out war on public school is the first thing that's really shaken me. What kind of dad am I if I don't do the best I can for my kids?

Also, it's hot as fuck here.

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West Texas A&M is back in the news, and it's not good (reminder that their president banned student drag shows on campus).

A new institute promoting "Texas Panhandle Values" got $20 million in funding from some local rich guy. Dan Patrick says it's part of a larger effort to get similar ones at all TAMU system schools. This is akin to Civitas being established at UT.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/04/west-texas-am-hill-institute/

 

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Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who attended the event announcing the donation Wednesday, said he supported the center as a way to bring Texas “panhandle values” to the rest of the country.

“This is the America that all America used to be, it should be again,” Patrick said of the sprawling, pastoral region whose rural counties and smaller outposts have long been a Republican stronghold. “These are American values here.”

 

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At the event Wednesday, Patrick told Texas A&M University System Chancellor John Sharp that he would work with him to get similar institutes at all A&M campuses by the end of Sharp’s tenure.

“Start from here, make this a national policy program because we need leaders in America,” he told the crowd. “We need to turn our face back to God. Stand on that foundation.”

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, bolverk said:

West Texas A&M is back in the news, and it's not good (reminder that their president banned student drag shows on campus).

A new institute promoting "Texas Panhandle Values" got $20 million in funding from some local rich guy. Dan Patrick says it's part of a larger effort to get similar ones at all TAMU system schools. This is akin to Civitas being established at UT.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/04/west-texas-am-hill-institute/

 

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My grandparents from Amarillo who LITERALLY WROTE A BOOK ABOUT PANHANDLE HISTORY would vehemently disagree with all of this.  Fuck these ghouls.

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39 minutes ago, bolverk said:

West Texas A&M is back in the news, and it's not good (reminder that their president banned student drag shows on campus).

A new institute promoting "Texas Panhandle Values" got $20 million in funding from some local rich guy. Dan Patrick says it's part of a larger effort to get similar ones at all TAMU system schools. This is akin to Civitas being established at UT.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/04/west-texas-am-hill-institute/

 

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panhandle values as maga sees it

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My grandparents from Amarillo who LITERALLY WROTE A BOOK ABOUT PANHANDLE HISTORY would vehemently disagree with all of this.  Fuck these ghouls.

I, myself, who admittedly have not written a book about West Texas but was reared in the Permian Basin (which I think is more culturally akin to the Panhandle than Lubbock/South Plains because of oil/ranching instead of cotton farming), would somewhat agree. I also went to Tech for undergrad, so I'm familiar with Lubbock/South Plains, where it was mostly "dry" while my much smaller oil town was always "wet."

But I also think that there has always been a historically rooted culture clash between the more libertarian mind-your-own-damn-business wildcatters/ranchers on one side versus the more uptight peak-in-your-windows farmers/homesteaders on the other.

Unfortunately, the latter seems to have won that culture war out there.

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On 10/5/2023 at 8:29 PM, bolverk said:

West Texas A&M is back in the news, and it's not good (reminder that their president banned student drag shows on campus).

A new institute promoting "Texas Panhandle Values" got $20 million in funding from some local rich guy. Dan Patrick says it's part of a larger effort to get similar ones at all TAMU system schools. This is akin to Civitas being established at UT.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/04/west-texas-am-hill-institute/

 

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Abbott just called the next special session to focus once again on vouchers, and he’s now going nuclear.

 

This could very easily blow up in his face.  If I were a rural R rep, I'd immediately be on the "watch this rich big city R come here and try and take our money to put in his private school friends' pockets!  No sir, not on my watch!"  

 

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Good reporting from the Tribune and ProPublica here. TEA commissioner Mike Morath - who took over the entirety of HISD because of one failing campus - has on at least 17 occasions allowed charter networks to expand even though they had too many failing campuses.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/10/texas-mike-morath-underperforming-charter-schools-expand/

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17 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

This could very easily blow up in his face.  If I were a rural R rep, I'd immediately be on the "watch this rich big city R come here and try and take our money to put in his private school friends' pockets!  No sir, not on my watch!"  

 

But there are some rich, small town Rs that are behind the movement as well. They could very well make it easy for an opponent to primary some of these people out. 

 

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But there are some rich, small town Rs that are behind the movement as well. They could very well make it easy for an opponent to primary some of these people out. 

 

I didn't say it couldn't happen.  Yours is a completely plausible scenario. 

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I didn't say it couldn't happen.  Yours is a completely plausible scenario. 

What makes this difficult for the rural Rs is that while they are aligned with Dems on the voucher issue, they can be completely opposite on other issues like book banning.

Surprised that Abbott is finding other methods to entice the rural Rs, like increased state funding of their schools to ensure the public schools remain whole.

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Watched that yesterday.  I think a big part of this is the Homeschool lobby wants the money to flow into their for profit curriculum by getting homeschool parents to request the vouchers to pay for online classes.

Same shit Rick Perry was doing with A&M 10+ years ago. 

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Watched that yesterday.  I think a big part of this is the Homeschool lobby wants the money to flow into their for profit curriculum by getting homeschool parents to request the vouchers to pay for online classes.

Same shit Rick Perry was doing with A&M 10+ years ago. 


homeschooling parents are going to pocket that money, not turn around and give it away

 

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Private school in Austin has no teachers and kids are taught by AI. Tuition is still $40,000.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/schools/alpha-private-school-austin-artificial-intelligence/

Man....I really, really wish I wasn't burdened with a conscience.  Because nothing would make me happier than ripping off morons to the tune of $40k per student.....but I'd feel guilty about the kid getting the shaft.

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https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/schools/alpha-private-school-austin-artificial-intelligence/269-4222fbd9-acc6-4447-9e46-e1a15bca443f

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AUSTIN, Texas — Alpha private school leaders believe AI learning paired with life skill courses will be the standard for modern schools in the future. The school doesn't have teachers but instead uses what it calls "guides."

"We don't have teachers," said Alpha private school cofounder MacKenzie Price. "Now, what we do have is a lot of adults who are in the room engaging with these kids, working as coaches. So they're helping the kids get clear on what are some goals that they're working on, what are they doing academically? What are they interested in? How can we really turn on that spark for learning?"

To learn core subjects, the students work one-on-one with artificial intelligence for the first two hours of the day. It's app-based AI tutoring.

"So it's the educational information that regular schools are also teaching with, but AI apps are feeding them to students at the appropriate level and pace that they need," said Price.

It goes as far as AI-created historical figures explaining their own histories with basic comprehension quizzes.

Fifth grader Byron loves the instant feedback he said he didn't get in public school. 

"It explains a detailed explanation of why the correct answer is correct, not just saying, 'Oh, here's your correct answer,'" said Byron. "It'll say, 'You can answer the question this way next time.'"

Price said the lessons are customized for every student to make sure they are being challenged. She said, for example, "We'll have a 7-year-old kid who's maybe at an eighth-grade reading level, but that doesn't mean they should be reading eighth-grade material," said Price. "So one of the things that's great about a lot of the AI technology we have is we can, say, provide reading material at this certain Lexile level, which is eighth grade, but appropriate for a 7-year-old kid." 

Price said the apps can also deliver information using topics students are interested in to keep them involved. If the AI feels the student isn't comprehending a portion of a lesson at a particular level, it will review that material with the student.

"In a normal classroom, you know, kids move on after a certain amount of time, no matter if they've mastered or not," said Price. 

 

This style of learning goes for 12th graders down to kindergarteners. 

"I think it's making me actually learn things, not just looking at things I've already seen," said Byron. 

Price said in their two hours of learning core material, their research shows the students learn twice as much as standard schools do in six hours.

"They take the Maps test, which is a national test that's taken by 5 million students across the country," said Price. "They do that in fall, winter and spring. That's how we're able to measure academic progress."

The other six hours of the day are set aside for learning life skills like public speaking, overcoming rejection, grit and robotics.

Walking around the school, we saw a third grader assembling an Ikea drawer. He had to complete it within an hour to pass the test. We also saw a class of 11-year-olds writing and submitting college admission essays.

"They don't know our age, so they're going to let us know if he would accept us into the school," said student Eddie. "If he said yes, or she, we will get a check [pass the test]."

The school is riddled with affirmations on the wall, and at the end of the day, they give shout-outs to each other for being helpful.

So far, Alpha has 250 students across all three campuses, with two located in Austin. The school was founded in 2014. 

Tuition is $40,000 a year. Price said about 75% of their students are on some form of financial aid. 

 

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I’ve long predicted that the state of Texas will eventually have 1 state-wide teacher for every subject. They either film or live broadcast 1 teacher per subject into every classroom for that subject. You back it up with an even lower paid teacher aide who is either assisting the students in the classroom, or effectively baby sitting them.

it also allows complete control of the message to each student.

school districts would love it because Abbott and GQP will pick up the cost of the teacher.

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I'm confident when I say that the PragerU stuff is the most concerning. It isn't just "the destruction of the education system," it's the replacement of it with a system designed to indoctrinate, precisely what certain groups have said they are against. Watch the video I posted. It is beyond disturbing. 

They dropped this little nugget this week

 

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